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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #420 on: December 10, 2009, 04:02:54 PM »
your new white truck stuck in the mud ...  my old blue car stuck in the snow ...

and not 2 nickels to rubb togather ... same old boring game ... 

and im gonna GET REALLY PISSED OFF SOON... TAKE IT AS YOUR WARNING!

none the less my shift works as i said it did ...

build it a stupid simple way ... BUILD IT THE MOST COMPLACATED WAY ...

i dont care ...

it is STILL MY WORK THANK YOU ...

CAN THE GUY WITH LESS THAN 2 NICKELS EVER GET ANYTHING FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK ......

WHAT DO I NEED TO MAKE A COIL THAT SHOOTS LIGHTNING TO GET 10 CENTS!


TIME TO COUGH UP SOME DOW!

IM CALLING RADIO STATIONS NEWS CREWS AND ITS GONNA ROLL YOUR PLANET!


FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS I SAY THE SAME SH!FT ...  I LEARNED  MANY !

THANK YOU !

perhaps you know my actions around here effect this ENTIRE WORLD TO WICH EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU LIVE...

BELEAVE IT OR NOT ... I COULD CARE LESS ... MY FACTS SPEEK FOR THEM SELVS..

END OF RANT !    AND DONE WITH BEING POOR ...

WIZE UP B4 I DO IT TO YOU !

ps where does santa live .....  it aint the south pole ...  ist rolls his eyes .....

btw i refer to my work as mine ... why ?   cuz it is .. lol  i told you this came from sm wich came from tesla wich came from egypt...  wich CAME FROM WHAT HU-MANS CALL GODS...  RA! the god of the SUN!  IS ME .... i was the first to come to this conculsion with out the aid of higher dementional tools ...

many already know WHO IM AM ... SILLY HUMANS ... lol   why CAN I SPEEK OF MY WORK    ?

OTHER WIZE.....  and why do they take pictures away i know ...  why does this site go off line ...

why do i arive at answers always miles ahead ... sheesh  it is me it is in my name it is in my blood it is in my birth date it is in my dna ... it is even in MY SKIN UNDER MY RIGHT EYE ...

hummmmm

MY MISTERY MISS IS NONE OTHER THAN ISIS   

so how the hell does it all work ?  how the hell should i know ... ?  all i know is it does NOT WORK WELL THE WAY IT IS ......

think bout that for a bit..............
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 05:38:56 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #421 on: December 10, 2009, 06:45:22 PM »
IST Get Your SH!FT in to gear ! Ask mrmag to help you .get this stuff before the post offce shuts down for the holidays man ! I don't care how you do it just DOIT !! What happened to Group Efforts dude ? Its not all yours  or mine you know ! Lay that pipe down before santa slaps you !  ;D ;D ;D Just kidding .. Getting giddy cause the others are starting to sweat . And i know you will build a bigger bettr one. Can't wait much longer though..

Gadget ..

innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #422 on: December 10, 2009, 06:57:36 PM »
IST Get Your SH!FT in to gear ! Ask mrmag to help you .get this stuff before the post offce shuts down for the holidays man ! I don't care how you do it just DOIT !! What happened to Group Efforts dude ? Its not all yours  or mine you know ! Lay that pipe down before santa slaps you !  ;D ;D ;D Just kidding .. Getting giddy cause the others are starting to sweat . And i know you will build a bigger bettr one. Can't wait much longer though..

Gadget ..

silly

your ALL COMEING TO MY SIDE OF THE FENCE ...

w

it is our work .. each and everyones ...   

THIS IS NOT THE WORK OF HUMANS... 
a human runs off and trys to get a pattend and get rich ...  i just want to build more shift .... thats all  maybe eat 3 times a day ...  insted of 1 ...  but im not worried ...  humans were always ment to learn the truth ... 

btw it is clear why my stuff isint here yet ..   maybe i come up with a few more new things ...  if you have 4th viewing .. pehaps they see this ..  who khows how much has been learned on planet earth ..

i have no idea...   all i know is since i cant build things i share them so everyone can learn  then we can find the true truth ...  : )
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 08:59:19 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #423 on: December 10, 2009, 10:38:45 PM »
Hi IST with those words you always remind me about a friend of mine who always tell me that he's an alien and has past experiences driving a flying saucer ;D. This guy sometimes I believe him cause he has alot of intiution.
Ok maybe we all are we don't belong to this earth we have to leave her someday.
Wish you Happy Christmas to all a bit early but the atmosphere of Christmas is very nice.
 :)

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #424 on: December 10, 2009, 11:21:35 PM »
I have been thinking about  what we can do  to make a stronger JT
It looks like the  supply of the very large toroids  is  going to be very limited .

I have been looking for ways  smaller toroids can be used in place of larger ones .


I have came up with this so far .

I call it  a Candy Cane  JT .......because he windings spiral around the core like the stripes on a Candy Cane .


This is a first test . From  what I have learned  with  this ......if I was  going for max voltage I think I would mostly fill  each toroid  with a large winding  then  use an external winding as primary .


I am not  trying for  high voltage  at this time .    I am trying to find a good Ultracap charger .

I think my next test will be  large windings on the  toroids ....but  I will  try those large windings  as primarys .     
I will need  larger  toroids ..because I would expect to need  quite a few external  windings ....

8  5 for $1 toroids
Blue wire 5 wraps pertproid
Oarnge wire 3 wraps per toroid
Green wire 1 wrap per toroid

All wire  twisted pair from Cat5 cable
1 AA battery  used for all readings
All secondary readings were taken  with  both  wires in parrallel.   If  the wires of the pairs  were  put in series the voltages would be close to double these readings 

Orange  as primary     13.8 V on  blue  1,7 V on green ...... external grren winding  11.6 V  .....external orange 5.6 V

Blue as primary ......  6.6 V on orange      1.5 on green ........ external green winding 7.9 V  .... external.orange 2.2 V

Green as primary ..... 14.8 V on blue   14.0 on orange  ........ external green winding 24 V ......external orannge 13 V



External green as primary ..... External orange 1.9 V.......  green 2.3 V.....  orange 5.8 V ....... blue 8.6 V

External  orange as primary  ...  External green 20 V  ......green 2V .......orange 12.4 V  ...... blue 18 V 

I did not measure the  current  of  the windings
I find  that  the readings of a normal DMM  are not accurate at all with JTs

I will see what I can get it to do later 



gary 


 


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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #425 on: December 10, 2009, 11:26:14 PM »
this is awesome ... as usual gary!

: )

can you post a picture ... i will build it ... i have a bunch of those laying round ..

ist!

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #426 on: December 10, 2009, 11:37:59 PM »
Hi IST with those words you always remind me about a friend of mine who always tell me that he's an alien and has past experiences driving a flying saucer ;D. This guy sometimes I believe him cause he has alot of intiution.
Ok maybe we all are we don't belong to this earth we have to leave her someday.
Wish you Happy Christmas to all a bit early but the atmosphere of Christmas is very nice.
 :)

thank you guruji

merry christmas to you and yours!

i have no memeries of crazy things ... but things fall into my lap for unexplained reasons ... from all over ... it is and was odd and hard for me to come to terms and proceed to say things i have ... but in all honesty ... i dont see how it is any other way ...  when i look back on events in my life ... things become clear ...  its no ego thing its not a money thing ...  i think it is fate ...  or perhaps the DEVINE PLAN ... like i said i cant and never will figure it all out alone ...

peace!

william

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #427 on: December 10, 2009, 11:53:21 PM »
Gadgetmall,

Yes, I got these from Magnetics Inc. they are part# ZW49740TC and OP49920UC

Mud on a new truck sounds like a good old southern style way of breaking it in.    ;)    ;D

Howard 




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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #428 on: December 11, 2009, 12:38:37 AM »
Gadgetmall,

Yes, I got these from Magnetics Inc. they are part# ZW49740TC and OP49920UC

Mud on a new truck sounds like a good old southern style way of breaking it in.    ;)    ;D

Howard
I call it new .It was the very first expensive thing i every bought new In 2006 :) I still owe 11,000 on it paying 450 a month . sheeeh ..The rain , it rained for week . the ground is saturated and the ditches are full and the water isnt going no where . What was a dust bowl for tha past two years is now a lake and i understand we are in for a nice winter  this year, I love Snow . It rarly comes anymore . the last BIG snow .well the only BIG snow was in 1985 It snowed 8 feet ,all the way past the windows ,the cars , the door . we were insulated for sure . It took a few days to get the door open a foot and then the snow fell in the house . FUN FUN FUN . I have a liitl boy then ,he was in his underware ,nothing else . and i said you want me to throw you in that do you and he yep . so i chunked him as far as i could and he landed in a cloud of Glory . It was fun . My Asia was alsom born on a Snow day and it snowed for the next three years after and then no snow for almost 4 years . It teased us two years ago  it started to sprinkle snow flakes and my daugher could nbot wait to get in it . Just as soon as we saw a few flakes it stopped .....and she cried so hard  . it broke my heart . I hope it snows ..We miss it . Well enuff remanissance  / .

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #429 on: December 11, 2009, 12:48:57 AM »
you shoulnt have thrown him in so far ... its cold in there i bet!

lol

hope you helped to digg him out lol

peace ...   you may just get your snow ...  : )

w

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #430 on: December 11, 2009, 12:49:46 AM »
Gary:

The large toroids are not in short supply.  We can get all we want or need.  Jeanna found a distributor that asks only a $30 minimum per order.  @ around $2/toroid, that's 15 of them.  We can pool a few folks together if that is too many for what a person needs.  To me, that is cheap per toroid and they can handle orders of thousands of parts if we need them. These are the same toroids from the same maker.

Since I am using them 2 at a time, I will need to get more of them soon.

Bill

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #431 on: December 11, 2009, 12:59:50 AM »
this is wonderful bill!


can you post a pic of a dubble core unit ...

im gonna find some money some how .... 

and im a get a tonne of em ...  ill make em piss fire ..

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #432 on: December 11, 2009, 01:24:53 AM »
Here are some photos.  Sorry for the blurr, I was in a hurry as I am still trying to get this done.

Bill

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #433 on: December 11, 2009, 02:18:38 AM »
Wow Pirate that a nice build!

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #434 on: December 11, 2009, 02:51:00 AM »
Hi all
I am posting the pix for Gary...
So, here is his text:


I have been thinking about  what we can do  to make a stronger JT
It looks like the  supply of the very large toroids  is  going to be very limited .

I have been looking for ways  smaller toroids can be used in place of larger ones .


I have came up with this so far .

I call it  a Candy Cane  JT .......because the windings spiral around the core like the stripes on a Candy Cane .


This is a first test . From  what I have learned  with  this ......if I was  going for max voltage I think I would mostly fill  each toroid  with a large winding  then  use an external winding as primary .


I am not  trying for  high voltage  at this time .    I am trying to find a good Ultracap charger .

I think my next test will be  large windings on the  toroids ....but  I will  try those large windings  as primarys .     
I will need  larger  toroids ..because I would expect to need  quite a few external  windings ....

8  5 for $1 toroids
Blue wire 5 wraps per toroid
Orange wire 3 wraps per toroid
Green wire 1 wrap per toroid

All wire  twisted pair from Cat5 cable
1 AA battery  used for all readings
All secondary readings were taken  with  both  wires in parallel.   If  the wires of the pairs  were  put in series the voltages would be close to double these readings 

Orange  as primary     13.8 V on  blue  1,7 V on green ...... external green winding  11.6 V  .....external orange 5.6 V

Blue as primary ......  6.6 V on orange      1.5 on green ........ external green winding 7.9 V  .... external.orange 2.2 V

Green as primary ..... 14.8 V on blue   14.0 on orange  ........ external green winding 24 V ......external orange 13 V



External green as primary ..... External orange 1.9 V.......  green 2.3 V.....  orange 5.8 V ....... blue 8.6 V

External  orange as primary  ...  External green 20 V  ......green 2V .......orange 12.4 V  ...... blue 18 V 

I did not measure the  current  of  the windings
I find  that  the readings of a normal DMM  are not accurate at all with JTs

I will see what I can get it to do later 



gary
now here are the pix that go along.
jeanna