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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #630 on: April 23, 2010, 05:29:37 PM »
i c everyone has been busy ... 

kooler 5 stages your nutz !  : )

tysb3

you seam keen ! 

i useing flb's for stage 2 as i get 1500vdc spikes per pulse from a 3/4 dead aaa : )

i have scoped it !  and this is on every single wire in the transformer im useing 2 bulb ballasts  so i have  4 pairs of  wires ..  fireing 1500 vdc from 1 pulse

from a depleated aa

so i made the mini power stack   just 2 main stages and a few aux stages .. 

sir it is ou ...  : )   BIG TIME

william

innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #631 on: April 25, 2010, 08:30:13 AM »
my stage 2 unit is really a stage 3 unit in my entire device ..  but it has many things in 1 unit

this is what it does

salt water cell  power source
freq convertor   like a joule thief
pulse motor / hf switcher machanical ...
kicker module 
OUTPUT

i built it in a stack i use a 12vdc battery for power source for the kicker bords it is recharged from the pulse motor and the salt water cell and solar ..  the pulse motor is powered from a boost cap wich is recharged from the freqcon! : )

i have built most of this already and am almost done ..  it is A LOT OF WORK !   

W


here is a video of the ist way stage 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_vIF_K3QSo

tysb3

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #632 on: December 01, 2010, 07:21:57 PM »
@ all Hi,
Thanks to wattsup and Magluvin for good ideas, -  SIDAC + ignition coil.
Now I  put on this JT, -  SIDAC + ignition coil + JT.
Now I dont need double JT because of SIDAC
I dont try it yet, because I dont have SIDAC and ignition coil,
but I will do it. 
 

tysb3

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #633 on: December 01, 2010, 09:52:12 PM »
you will not becomes enough voltage and power in Capacity, that the sidac can fire
this to ignition coil.

The pancake coil help nothing here.

Pese

Hi
thanks for comment.
this is yet only on idea stage. I check sidac for parameters. You could be right. they heave big leakage current at stand-offvoltage and perhaps to big breackdown voltage.
for start I find this ones: TRISIL LS5018B/LS5060B
Im not physicist. pancacke JT coil is for additional reiciving energy from addtional pancacke coil. on this I could be wrong.




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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #634 on: August 17, 2011, 09:21:09 AM »
IST:

That statement means absolutely nothing and yes I and everyone reading this should demand that Gadget show some proof that he has over unity.  He doesn't have it and it is extremely unlikely that he is capable of proving it.  That's the case for you also.

Broli:

There are the right ways to learn and there are the wrong ways to learn.  Spending a hundred dollars and hundreds of hours building and testing something that doesn't even work is not the right way to learn.

MileHigh

Mile,
While I am new here, and I have not posted much, in the last two years through the help of this forum I have gone from knowing almost nothing of electronics to being able to understand and build such basic things as captrets, inverters, pwm's, solar chargers etc.
Your statement, "Spending a hundred dollars and hundreds of hours building and testing something that doesn't even work is not the right way to learn."  is a rather illogical one at best, and a pessimistically misguided one at worst. Your statement only functions on the assumption (or decision you have made) that this device does not function to its specs in the slightest. To which I must say that the burden of proof concerning this statement is solely upon your shoulders. Prove thoroughly that it is not. Additionally, the only way one can know with surety that something does work, and know which exact and specific parts to only ever use for that something, is if one already knows the outcome. And, I must say dear sir, experimentation is not exactly about what we know (or think we know, since your claim is unverified), experimentation is as much about taking a leap into the dark, and what we don't know. If we constantly walked into a lab TRULY knowing the answers, we would end all experimentation. its called experimentation, Not verification.
I would also hesitate to determine that there is a wrong or right way to learn something, and if my way should be imposed on you, or vice versa.
   Furthermore, your statement, " He doesn't have it and it is extremely unlikely that he is capable of proving it.  That's the case for you also." is not only an Ad Hominem argument,  but it is a statement which functions solely upon assumptions. People's interactions in life are largely influenced by how much they bring in from their past. Assumptions are at their core, guesses based on the past. At the end of the day, human beings dwell in slavery and oppression because one man is too afraid to give up his power over another, for fear of reprisals seen in the past. If only each side could fathom that the other wants peace and respite just as badly. This was the assumption of the cold war. This is the fallacy of assumptions: that all that has existed is all that can exist. We do not have to dwell in a world of pre-determined options, but rather a world of uncreated possibilities. If you drive forwards and look backwards, you will surely get a ding. My advice, without any judgement upon you, is to unclench your fist and your mind, and have a little faith in your fellow man. Be well. 8)

FreqShift

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #635 on: July 23, 2013, 08:32:19 AM »
Very True.
If one is close minded, one will never advance.

So what happened to this thread?

It started with something good, a practical purpose.

Then, inevitably, greed and the quest for the 'wholly prize' diluted and killed all progress?

Thanks again guys.

 >:(

Don't you see we are not getting anywhere,..  And will NEVER get anywhere because of this.

Forget a patent, it will get you no-where. There are already patents ! And 'where' are we?

Give me something practical ! Give me the device that heats an electric heater core 'efficiently'.
The cheap Ceramic Walmart heater would be nice.

Here are other great searches:  'Electric Heater Elements', or  'Heater Water Heater Elements'.

Forget the Peltier chip. They are Extremely inefficient.  20% at Best.

Someone, anyone?
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PARAV

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #637 on: March 11, 2019, 10:51:21 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCi2-6kAkqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rrgbQCImZI
https://alltransistors.com/transistor.php?transistor=38902
https://alltransistors.com/crsearch.php?mat=Si&struct=NPN&pc=0.5&ucb=30&uce=30&ueb=3&ic=0.3&tj=175&ft=200&cc=15&hfe=10



Hey hi --tysb3


Thanx for this info


Provided there is no skullduggery or fake going on with this device --this is truly  amazing  IMHO or am I missing something ?


Has anyone found an equivalent to that transistor 2T603A ? I have tried to no avail.


Also that capacitor shown below the coil form --shows  "10H"  ???


Looking forward to trying this if true.


Paul






tysb3

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #638 on: March 12, 2019, 12:06:23 AM »
capacitor 10Н - 10nF=0,01мкF

USSR transistor 2T603A is the same KT603A only "military quality"

Type Designator: KT603A:
 Material of Transistor: Si  Polarity: NPN 
 Maximum Collector Power Dissipation (Pc): 0.5 W
 Maximum Collector-Base Voltage |Vcb|: 30 V
 Maximum Collector-Emitter Voltage |Vce|: 30 V
 Maximum Emitter-Base Voltage |Veb|: 3 V
 Maximum Collector Current |Ic max|: 0.3 A
 Max. Operating Junction Temperature (Tj): 175 °C
 Transition Frequency (ft): 200 MHz
 Collector Capacitance (Cc): 15 pF
 Forward Current Transfer Ratio (hFE), MIN: 10
  Noise Figure, dB: -

Cross-Reference Search Result (Equivalent Transistors)
↓ Type Mat Struct Pc Vcb Vce Veb Ic Tj Ft Cc Hfe
2C2222A Si  NPN  0.5  75  40  6  0.8  175  300  8  100
2C2222AKB Si  NPN  0.5  75  40  6  0.8  175  300  8  100
          2N2222A      Si  NPN  0.5  75  40  6  0.8  175  300  8  100

Void

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #639 on: March 12, 2019, 01:25:32 AM »
Hi tysb3. Thanks for posting that.
I am pretty skeptical after seeing so many fake free energy videos, but the circuit
looks quite simple so I will try this next weekend if I get a chance, if I can figure out how to
properly wind and connect the coils on the toroid. I'm interested to see how
it might really perform. It is sort of along the lines of Akula's claimed self running LED circuits. :)



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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #640 on: March 12, 2019, 01:56:59 AM »
I'm not very optimistic about this too. In video comments appeared comment that it doesn't work

Void

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #641 on: March 12, 2019, 03:23:42 AM »
I'm not very optimistic about this too. In video comments appeared comment that it doesn't work

Hi tysb3. Yeah. Really there is no reason that I can see to think that it would work,
unless you have a strong radio transmitter nearby beaming a radio signal towards
the circuit. For a circuit to be self running, it has to get its extra energy from somewhere.
That circuit is just a modified multivibrator circuit, so I can't see any obvious reason why it might self run,
unless maybe the toroid he used is radioactive.   ;D

The guy who breadboarded that circuit you posted the picture for and who said he could not get the circuit to self run,
interpreted the '10H' capacitor as 10nF (capacitor marking in the picture is 103).

P.S. In the second video, he measures the diode current as a round 300 uA I believe.
The total power dissipated by the LED in his circuit is maybe around 300uW to 500uW.
I think it will not take all that strong of a radio signal to produce that small amount of power,
similar in some ways to a crystal radio. Some people suggested he place his circuit inside a microwave
oven to act as a faraday shield, but so far he didn't try it. I think his LED should go off
if he tries that. If not, then his circuit is magic. ;)


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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #642 on: March 12, 2019, 09:56:54 PM »
yes, some commentators and I ask him to place his circuit inside a microwave but no reaction from him.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #643 on: April 24, 2019, 12:03:04 AM »
another video with new experiments. circuit placed inside a microwave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi1A4QFSRKw

AlienGrey

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #644 on: April 24, 2019, 07:58:16 AM »
Come on lads, this is a time waster, it doesn't stick to any of the rules, it's just a basic multivibrator with a hidden battery. I mean It doesn't produce any HV spikes. just a scope shot showing a square wave. he is having a laugh!