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Author Topic: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits  (Read 446960 times)

Offline innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #135 on: November 23, 2009, 04:06:10 PM »
for now it is ......  :P ;D

ist!

i thought i saw you try......  ;) :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_GfCi0UYoY&feature=related

REM LOSEING MY RELIGION... 

REAL ELECTRO MAGNETICS 

R E M !
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 05:23:24 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #136 on: November 23, 2009, 04:16:18 PM »
great work gadget!

that is verry impressive .. it used verry little and it has gained

you guys are in for it!!  8) :o :o :o

lol
Thank you ist and yep I know you will far exceed 3000amps @2.6 volts with all those Bcaps in series . the beauty of Bcaps is they dont loose farads in series where supercaps do .
i have better ways of charging these also ,faster but as you know this is the Most Simplest way to show a self running motionless high output generator .
wate till you see the miles we run with this ...

i can improve this beond your dreams ...  ;) ;D

i will not if there is nothing done with it  or if we are continually pounded by the dozzies ..

hence my last post  ;D 

if ya dont get it dont bother argueing .. test it!

yes gadget this all  for you   and im damm proud you will see!  8)

and pony is gonna be 1 busy soul  ;D ;D ;D ;D  lmao


w814

for 1 mr m i do agree with you ...  about others work!  i stand beside you there ...   i do not know who the origonal was ...   but credit must be awarded for that person indeed... 

however in all fairness this does work ... the improvements the team will make in weeks to come .. will be second to none ..  ;)

in all instance it will be ou the design totally reflects ou put ... i wound more coils than anyone ... that im aware of .. i have discovered many more things ... put your seatbelt on ...   ;)

the jt is ou by orignal .. the orininal inventer has a flawed understanding of what is actually happining in the tj's operation ...

im not sure it has been exposed public yet .. the exact source ... but ill tell ya im not far from that ..

all free engery devices ever built operate on the same thing .. with some ecptions...

i could list you over 200 units that use this teck ...  nevermind the over 1000 things that use it and dont even know they are .. lol

kinda like the fugi lol
Thank you ist and yep I know you will far exceed 3000amps @2.6 volts with all those Bcaps in series . the beauty of Bcaps is they dont loose farads in series where supercaps do .
i have better ways of charging these also ,faster but as you know this is the Most Simplest way to show a self running motionless high output generator .
and i have already been pm'ed by lots of people wanting Heater kits so  as soon as the Circuit board gets nailed down i'll have that as an option . free Energy Is here for the world .
your welcome from Gadget ,Ist ,Pirate ,Mk1,Jeanna,Groundloop, Jesus,jim,resonanceman ,xee2 and a few more . all who helped make this discovery possible will get a share . Its not about the money either , its about Truth and real Free energy for Mankind to benifit from and to prove ONCE AND for all that over unity Exist and is very easy to attain.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2009, 04:25:34 PM »
I am sure you realize for the contest the setup has to produce a pre defined power value continously for 3 months and thus that means without interruption.
Correct me if i am wrong but you speak of 14 Hours so how are you going to meet this requirement?

Marco.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #138 on: November 23, 2009, 04:36:50 PM »
I am sure you realize for the contest the setup has to produce a pre defined power value continously for 3 months and thus that means without interruption.
Correct me if i am wrong but you speak of 14 Hours so how are you going to meet this requirement?

Marco.
the requirement is only 1 watt So . 2.6 volts at 3500 amps = 9100watts...how many watts per hour ??????????????? 1 .how many hours in 3 months three months = 2 191.4 hours . and if My calculation are incorrect i welcom a correction but not a flame  Also keep in mind that the initial time to charge this is not that significant and considered  startup . I will ship the unit to Stephan in the charge mode and it will already be ready for work .Also remember that the unit is self running and constantly replinishing both run  and charge so the output will be constant at such a low requirment  PLUS it runs 1 watt or less Of light (leds as an extra Ou effect) with no affect on the current draw at all .
thank you for your comment and intrest
gadget

turbo

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #139 on: November 23, 2009, 04:45:07 PM »
Well let's see   :)

P=UxI
P=2,6x3500
P=9100 Watt

Are you claiming your little joule thiev setup here is producing close to 10 Kilowatt ?

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #140 on: November 23, 2009, 05:06:07 PM »
Well let's see   :)

P=UxI
P=2,6x3500
P=9100 Watt

Are you claiming your little joule thieve setup here is producing close to 10 Kilowatt ?
No i am saying MY circuit produces a voltage of 2.6volts @3500amps=9100 watts that can be constantly drained easly of 1 w/h. I am not good in math anymore i have other experts contributing for the calculations . i had a stroke three years ago and i have some memory loss but if thats what your calculations say then yes . . Understand My only concern this second is to prove Overunity and a selfrunning device that produced massive power output . in this case  the specs of the bcap are located  at maxwell.com SO. as there is no meter i have that can measure 3500 amps i have to go another way and discharge the bcap in nichrome wire .whick will far exceed a 1 watt release . Also the cap will NOT be fully discharged at any time and is constantly be recharger . Please Build one and see for your self . I won't answer any more questions . all the details are here and on page 996-current page on Jule thief thread. Just build one . you won't be sorry and you will have one heck of a simple ou device . Aside from the selfrun circuit being designed you can see the ou effect with just one wire to zap the AA source back  up with the very little loss . also look a page back here at the numbers i am posting on an old AA cadnium battery  charging the Bcap . relize that there is eniff amps /joules /watts in this to burn lamp cord into right now . all this from a measly 1 volt 850ma used  7 years old AA battery :) If you believe me to be wrong then: Where is your Circuit ? How did you come to that conclusion and with what equasion ?
Good day
Gadget
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 08:52:41 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #141 on: November 23, 2009, 05:10:02 PM »
Voltage isn't a great indication of power, in order to fully measure the power in watts, or coulombs, you would need a way to measure exactly how 'full' you capacitor really is.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #142 on: November 23, 2009, 05:16:18 PM »
Suggestions?

If it does put out 10 Kilowatt you can always hook up five 2Kw heaters.
Or ten  :o 1Kw water cookers.
Or just 100!!!! one hundred Watt light bulbs.
Thats TEN times as much as Mr Steven Mark did because he only showed ten bulbs.... :-X

I think its best to redo the calculations first.

M.

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #143 on: November 23, 2009, 05:21:38 PM »
jadaro2600,

Voltage is not an accurate way of determining battery energy-- Key word is "accurate."  For example it's inaccurate to judge how fast an object is moving by human sight alone, but I'll bet you anything I can tell which bowling ball is dropping faster between one that was dropped 5 feet & 100 feet. Here is gadgets claim, which is very obvious,

Quote
Quote from Gadget, "I have demonstrated over the unity of a primary source in the Jule thief thread . from an aa battery 2500mah i have charged an ultracapacitor to full capacity with only a few microvolts of loss from the battery 1.4 volt battery ."

And I would add that he was talking about the 650F ultracap, right gadget?

Paul

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #144 on: November 23, 2009, 05:28:27 PM »
Voltage isn't a great indication of power, in order to fully measure the power in watts, or coulombs, you would need a way to measure exactly how 'full' you capacitor really is.

Any suggestions?
Hmm. Well watts = volts X amps . unless some one can calculate from the specs of the capacitor at the manufacture site . The other way posted was texplained several pages back to dump in a know load several times unitil its exaused and do the math there when the source battery is fully depleted (not in self run mode) that could take weeks or months for the aa battery to become so depleated it wont run the transistor and more. this is why i want other good members to replicate .And give there results  and are good at power calulations. I'm good at building  and getting stuff to work  but With 4 years college way behind me now  .and the stroke  numbers confuse me . I know what its capable of and as soon as i get my roll of thin nichrome i'll get the video done and borrow a High connection in the city and post it .If some one would just build it or even sugess a newer proven JT cap charger toroid winding i can try that while i'm waiting . I got plenty of bcaps to experiment with .and over 60 blank toroids from goldmine and 5 big ones 3-2inch and 2 three inch . and a 140mm one comming . and the otehr way from My math expert is Take a fully charged AA battery of a known type (eg. 2900mA/h 1,2 Volt)
and then just charge up the cap. When the cap reach 2,6 Volt then
just discharge the cap into some load. Any load. But you need to
make sure that you measure the voltage over the cap to be 2,6 Volt.

Then you repeat the charge for so many times the AA battery allow
you to do. I will guess 11 to 12 times before the AA battery is drained.

Now you just use this math:

Power In Capacitor in Joule = 1/2 * FARAD * (Voltage * Voltage)
* how many times you did discharge the capacitor.

Take this SUM and divide by 3600 and you have the POWER in
Watt / Hour.

If this Power (in Watt/Hour) is greater than the maximum Watt/Hour your AA battery can put out then you have over unity.

Proof is the build fellas I am not answering anymore question .READ

Gadget
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 06:22:53 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #145 on: November 23, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »
nice for you to come see us marco !

if that is correct ... the math ...  ;)  magic..

lol

i beleave i can charge an unlimited amount!  ;D  any desired amprage and voltage .. from 1.5v source ..

and i intend to get my charge time down to 5 min would rock but ill settle with 15

i have LONG AGO SOLVED THIS HURTTLE

ringggg da bell 2 time  ;D 8)

insted of 1 kick  i send 100 000 in 1 puse they expand in the cap  ;)

just basic 2 freq crap ...  8)

w814  ;D

fire flys are here makeing sure this unravels just properly ... GOT IT!  8)

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #146 on: November 23, 2009, 05:38:14 PM »
I've posted this before. There are conventional equations to calculating battery energy based on voltage, and such equiations include battery temperature. Here's an outline of car battery energy at WikiPedia, that includes an equation to adjust for temperature,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_battery#Terminal_voltage

Fpr a 12V car battery the temperature adjustment is very low, -0.022V/°C.

Paul

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #147 on: November 23, 2009, 05:47:17 PM »
now that i have told you all agin for i dont know 2 hundred times... lol

dont think you will run off with my work lol

i have this all long ago covered ..  ;) 

i encourage the read through of the 1000+ page thred ...  ;)

all is there ...  ;D

there will be no stealing .. the origonal inventer shall stand up !

i must congrdulate him!

thank you

william

no body goes 15 for free!  ;)

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #148 on: November 23, 2009, 05:52:10 PM »
I'm not interested in bashing folks Bill, but please tell me if in your opinion that is what I have done in my posts here?

I have questioned the evidence or proof and perhaps the full understanding by folks of what the JT really does, but I do not believe I have bashed anyone here.

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For what its worth poynt, I don't see that you've bashed anyone either, you've just been calm and objective as usual.

Last night I replicated the gadget circuit using a constant V source of 1.5V to drive it through a 1ohm non inductive resistor. The charging cap on the OP was a 1F 5V supercap.

[1]
I scoped the input V and I and used my scope to multiply the channels and then perform RMS, thus calculating AVG power in. I timed the run and multiplied power by seconds hence calculating input Joules.

[2]
I measured the start and finish V in the OP cap. Hence calculating output joules. (I was assuming the cap really was 1F)

With tweaking of the base pot I was able to achieve nearly COP 80%.

Perhaps there is something very special about these 650F caps?

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #149 on: November 23, 2009, 05:57:14 PM »
gadget a simple 2 freq test i reccomend ...


useing its natural running freq .. ok

 8)

try it    you have a scope dont you ...  ;D

ist

this means NO RESISTOR ...  use a small cap  ;)   ;D

glad your here YUCCA  bro

your input is REQUIRED .. ps how is the controller for the portor comeing along  ;D ;)  a dead short rings a BIG BELL lol

perhaps thane would care to join in  :D