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dingbat

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #465 on: March 01, 2007, 10:29:28 PM »
Jack,

I have followed this thread from start to finish, and I'm sorry that it is ending this way.  You have obviously poured a lifetime of work into what you have done.  Good luck in the future with your projects.  I hope you get the opportunity to complete your motor and gravity wheel and get some satisfaction out of the results.

Dingbat.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #466 on: March 02, 2007, 02:32:38 AM »


Later,,,,,JackH
« Last Edit: October 01, 2007, 04:07:56 AM by JackH »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #467 on: March 02, 2007, 03:24:19 AM »
In the famous words of the series "24"

"Jack's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Thread resurrected: March 1, AD2007

dingbat

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #468 on: March 02, 2007, 03:54:31 AM »
Jack,

Do you have anything in running condition right now?  If not, how about I come and see what we can do about the points burning up, and getting that motor running?  Then once that motor is running and we do some testing we move on from there and estimate what it will take to get the next motor running.  It seems like it would be the most cost effective way to move forward.

Dingbat.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #469 on: March 02, 2007, 04:08:02 AM »
Hey Jack
Really sorry I don't have enough wire for your needs in 17AWG.
But 20 pounds would be a good start. 17 is an odd ball for me. Most of what I do is in 12,14,16 . Anyway hope you find what you need and speaking for myself. I don't want anything from you ,nor have I even ever asked you any questions about you motor. Not once have I posted anything negative about you Jack.
If I wanted anything to do with this I would just build it myself. Not like its a complex system. Very simple ,and you have posted every little thing needed for someone to easily replicate this. Anyway I'm done.

So good luck

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #470 on: March 02, 2007, 05:25:46 AM »


Later,,,,,, JackH
« Last Edit: October 01, 2007, 04:09:54 AM by JackH »

dingbat

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #471 on: March 02, 2007, 12:59:19 PM »
Jack,

Since neither one of us is independently wealthy, we need to balance priorities somehow.  It sounds like there are several paths to get something running, and different results expected depending upon which motor we move forward with.

I have a lot of "stuff" in inventory, and so do you.  Maybe I should come and look at what you have, and discuss what I have that might help.  Then we can decide what will cost the least money by using resources that we already have paid for between us.

Then we can figure out a budget for moving forward.

For starters, what size aluminum do you need for the endcaps?  I have quite a bit in stock.  What other parts are needed for it?

Dingbat

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #472 on: March 02, 2007, 04:29:06 PM »
Great to have you back, Jack. ;)

I look forward to see your big powerful motor in self running action and doing work.
Hopefully your electronics friend can make you an AC/DC converter that will adapt
the voltage from your generator to fit the needs of the motor you have built.
Please post a small video. You can use almost any digitalcamera as video recorder.

You could take Ironheads copper offer (I know he's only got 20 lb) but this is at least
a starter. Then you only need to buy 10lb of copper wire. Seems like a good deal.

Don't be afraid to seek independently verified proof of the overunity capacity.
Once you have a self runner that is capable of doing work then I bet you will hear
from all kinds of corporations that will offer you lots of money.
And that's OK with me. You have told us here at this forum how to build your motor
so there is no risk of the invention being stored away. It will come to good use. ;D

gyulasun

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #473 on: March 02, 2007, 04:56:22 PM »
... You have told us here at this forum how to build your motor
so there is no risk of the invention being stored away. It will come to good use. ;D

I do not know who else have noticed but Jack did erase the content of ALL his mails on this thread from the very first mail, and he did this March 1  when he was signing off...

So on this Forum there is no any "how to"  from him...

Maybe Stefan could undo/bring back the erased text if Jack also agree?

Thanks
Gyula

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #474 on: March 02, 2007, 06:33:37 PM »
I do not know who else have noticed but Jack did erase the content of ALL his mails on this thread from the very first mail, and he did this March 1  when he was signing off...

He does this every so often. Because of this, I've taken to regularly saving pages from this discussion on my computer.

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So on this Forum there is no any "how to"  from him...

Jack has never posted "how to" instructions for his motors. He did post information on magnetic valves, but it's a big jump going from that, to motors that use magnetic valves instead of magnets.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #475 on: March 02, 2007, 06:36:58 PM »
Hello Jack,
when will we at least get to see a picture of your gravity device ?

This could indeed speed up the process in getting help.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #476 on: March 02, 2007, 11:06:12 PM »
Sorry to interrupt again, but at the moment, I think Jack's the only one who knows (and the only one who may ever know) how to build these motors, and it'd be a waste for the world to lose that knowledge, more of a waste than the few dollars I can spare to help stop that from happening.

That's why I'm still willing to contribute some money.  If that makes me a fool or a sucker so be it.  It'd have to go towards the building of the gravity type motor though, not the one getting patented.  I don't want to put money towards something that's just going to get confiscated by the authorities if the patents get classified.

I'd be willing to part with up to a hundred dollars based on what I've seen and read so far.  If that's not enough to be of any help then I'm sorry.  I'd consider giving more, if, based on more information, I thought I might be contributing to something that's not only sure to work, but that's actually going to see the light of day and be made available to people.

So what's the procedure for buying shares?  If that's the only way you'll accept donations, how's it done?  If it's too complicated a process it might make me change my mind, but if it's straightforward enough, I'll see then how I'm feeling about it and maybe make an actual pledge.

Les.

P.S.

Pardon my naivete, but I have some other, more rhetorical questions.  Can anyone explain to me how it is that Jack's investors and the U.S. military get to decide whether it's just them or the whole world that benefits from Jack's patent-pending inventions?  How does the benefit to those few outweigh the benefit to the many?  I'm not a U.S. citizen, I don't live in the U.S., so why does their military dictate what sort of motor technologies are available to me in my country?  Isn't it a case of their protecting their own interests and everyone else be damned, everyone including, ultimately, their own people?  Also, who are these investors who seem to be willing to let the patents get classified just so they might get their money back?  What sort of an investment return is that?  Didn't they know the patents would probably get classified?  Didn't the patent lawyer know that too?  Knowing now that the patents might get locked up, why aren't they trying to find other ways to get their money back, and more?  If they were to pull the patent applications, get more investors, and just start building and selling the motors, even on the smallest scale at first, wouldn't they get more than their money back before anyone even gets a chance to copy them and go into competition?  And once in competition wouldn't there still be enough of a market share for them to be able to make a fortune?  Sorry if these are stupid questions, just ignore them if that's the case.       

 

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #477 on: March 03, 2007, 04:32:32 AM »


Later,,,,,,JackH
« Last Edit: October 01, 2007, 04:12:20 AM by JackH »

lwh

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #478 on: March 03, 2007, 05:29:00 AM »
Thanks for the info Jack.  Looks like there was a typo in your last message though.

Is it that the company was valued at $50,000 and the shares were $500 each, or that the company was valued at $500,000 and the shares were $5000 each?

Either way is probably out of my reach (at least approx. $750 AUS), but maybe others would like to know too.

Seems like you just need the money to get the 500 Watt version built and things might start falling into place.

Not sure why someone would give you a million dollars just to see the gravity wheel though, but good luck with it all, I hope it all works out well.

Les.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2007, 06:04:57 AM by lwh »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #479 on: March 03, 2007, 04:20:44 PM »

Not sure why someone would give you a million dollars just to see the gravity wheel though, but good luck with it all, I hope it all works out well.

Les.

Maybe to surpress it.  ???