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Author Topic: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor  (Read 241372 times)

Offline JackH

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Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« on: March 11, 2006, 05:58:55 AM »
Hello All,


« Last Edit: March 01, 2007, 05:30:47 AM by JackH »

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Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« on: March 11, 2006, 05:58:55 AM »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2006, 02:36:40 PM »
Your work progress in comparation:
from picture 1:Flynn rotative motor
to last picture:Oskar Becker Multi-e-magnets motor,compact !
You are approving the work of many other inventors,congratulations !
The first exposed "overunity" motor would have as consequence that
the e-sector would make an "all-patents/publication-review" and they can
deny special claims,because:global technical standart !
For the 3rd world this has to be seen as "present" !

Sincerely
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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 05:03:16 AM »
I hope,for you,that eventual protests/trials of denying will not get "fruits" !
Be carefull !

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 05:03:16 AM »
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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2006, 08:06:00 PM »
I have four patents pending on the mechanical valve, electrical valve, Motor, and Generator.

I'm interested in reading the patent applications. What search terms should I use at http://appft1.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html in order to find them?

I searched using the following phrases, and I was unable to find any relevant US patent applications for you or your devices:

hilden-brand
hildenbrand
electromagnetic motor
electromagnetic generator
electrical valve
low rpm motor
low rpm generator

Since US patent applications are publically available, the fact that I cannot find any US patent applications made by you, or made for your devices, implies to me that you have no US patent applications.

I find it interesting that you are asking people for money, given that I can't find the US patent applications that you claim to have made.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2006, 03:40:51 PM by FredWalter »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2006, 06:45:15 AM »
Hi JackH,
how did you measure your output power versus input power ?
Do you have DC as the input power ?
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
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Offline Elvis Oswald

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2006, 09:49:35 AM »
Jack,

I have a question (or two) about your motor (if you don't want to answer, I'll understand.)  :)

How many rotors does your motor have?  How many poles?

And a general question about your experience with this design - the closest field coil must attract the rotor when the permanent magnet is turned off on that pole... do you account for that by adjusting the power to the field coils or is it just not an issue?
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 10:00:19 AM by Elvis Oswald »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2006, 06:55:43 PM »
Hi JackH,
how do you measure your efficiency ?
Do you measure the mechanical output via a prony brake
or do you couple to your motor a DC generator and measure DC output versus
DC input power ?
If the latter is true, what kind of DC generator do you use and what is
its efficiency at the used RPM you tested ?
Or the other way asked:
What would you show at a meeting or private demonstration
to prove, that the motors are really overunity ?

Many thanks.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 07:06:20 PM by hartiberlin »

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Offline Clarky

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2006, 07:42:23 PM »
He must be talking about co-efficiency of performance, not efficiency.

So to correct that statement if true, his COP is overunity at 250%. His mechanical efficiency (friction, heat, air resistance) will never exceed 100% at best.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2006, 11:32:28 PM »
Hello Jack Hildenbrand,
if you have got enough time and an electro-magnet,
could you try to amplify the e-magnet force with your concept ?

Sincerely
            de Lanca

p.s.:it is my own interest to remove the P-magnet by an
E-magnet in the static generator,so you would give me a help !
I know about the P-magnet force amplifying kinds like offered
through "NorthWestmagnets" and "AMS/AMT" and the e-magnet energy savings through "Solenoidcity" !
And the static generator use this closed-magnet-cycle concept !

This is only to show that I am not abusing your PERSON or make
your temptations/work ridiculous,
and this is only the beginning of the C.O.P. over 1,
Oskar Becker:with on/off e-magnet work and LEVER-use:C.O.P.100/200/...

 
« Last Edit: May 19, 2006, 01:16:00 AM by lancaIV »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2006, 02:41:06 AM »
E=electro
P=permanent

Sincerely
            de Lanca

p.s.: I please you to be carefull with numbers(it shall be in your own
interest) and as example:
the common heat pump has a C.O.P. of +/- 3(or 300%),
but an efficiency under 100% !!!

And as review:When a worker is holding hours-/days-/months-long
a thing -without vectorial movement,ever on the same XYZ point-he is -physics laws related-doing nothing !!!
You have -physics laws related-not to pay a cent for this "labour"!

The worker would shout you:"Silly,mad stupid,....!" but I only
welcome you (and him) to the  "non-/linear physics" !
It is an OFFICIAL PARADOXON WORLD !!!
« Last Edit: May 19, 2006, 02:57:08 AM by lancaIV »

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2006, 03:48:22 AM »
Hi JackH,
sounds good, but you have to check, if you have placed the electronic scale at the same
height as the axis-shaft of the motor, otherwise you could get a wrong torque arm angle
at this measurement, which could lead to wrong mechanical output.
So as your 0.021 hp motor is putting out around 15 Watts mechanical power as you claim,
does it only comsume 3 Watts of electrical input power ?

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2006, 03:59:41 AM »
Hello Jack H.,
I do not want to amplify a permanent magnet force,
I want to get an electro-magnet force amplifycation !!!
My question is-parallel to the permanent magnet amplifycation
factor 15X(AMS/AMT),which amplification factor can I get by use
of an e-magnet ?

Sincerely
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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2006, 04:02:56 AM »
Hi De Lanca, amplification of electromagnet is a Flyn type e-magnet.
But that is only for the static case.
If you want to build a motor with it with
dynamic switch on/off of the electromagnet you are "hit"
again with the Lenz law, so that the Counter EMF "gets" you...

If you can reduce the counter EMF via some kind of trick
and so that the motor is just a motor and not a generator,
then you could get overunity mechanical from it.

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2006, 04:19:20 AM »
Hello "Moderator",
yes and no !
IT depends of a vertical/horizontal view /arrangement of the
+/- flux axis !(Molina-Martinez,Remigius Ohlmann et c.) !
The Flynn-concept is Permanent-magnet force amplification
oriented,not electro-magnet as primary source !

Probably on Friday(heute) our CONCEPT-Transmuter is ready to
present the functional X-TRON,so I will get the possibility to
show a kind of closed-M.A.S.E.R.-cycle !
Naja,irgendwo eine Camera auftreiben und wie geht es mit Bildern
"versaendaen" ?

Also bis zur naechsten Pulle
 de Lanca

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Re: Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2006, 05:02:01 AM »
Okay JackH,
so let us get idea,with/by  experiments !

Sincerely
            de Lanca

 

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