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safder

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help about bedini motor
« on: November 07, 2009, 09:51:02 AM »
hello friends i am new in this field.I replicate the bedini  motor . I am using one coil 500 turns and 3055 transistor  12v input.At the moment my motor is running but the output current is 8v. ??? So plz guide where is the problem.I am using 470 ohm resistant.And the neon bulb is always remained in on position.is it normal.I am using  this diagram.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 02:05:41 PM »
hi, a couple of questions,
does the neon remain on when you have a load (B2 on your diagram) on the circuit?
are you replacing the charge battery(B2) with a voltmeter to get your output measurement?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 03:06:16 PM by WilbyInebriated »

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 03:15:56 PM »
At the moment i don't have any charging battery connected.My input is 12v power supply 4amp.Below i mention the points where i connect the multimeter to measure the current.plz tell these are the right points to measure the current or not.
i have a 6v battery .When i connect it as b2 it charged little bit but neon bulb is always on..

Paul-R

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 03:23:57 PM »
There is one group which is outstandingly useful for this project, namely:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_Monopole3/
They really know their stuff -
But - stay on topic - and no spitting or swearing.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 03:48:42 PM »
At the moment i don't have any charging battery connected.My input is 12v power supply 4amp.Below i mention the points where i connect the multimeter to measure the current.plz tell these are the right points to measure the current or not.
i have a 6v battery .When i connect it as b2 it charged little bit but neon bulb is always on..

hi again.
if you have no load or charge battery on the output, the neon should be lit. it is there to protect your transistor from blowing. do you have a 12V battery you can connect as B2? or another 6V and put it in series with the one you have? or can you reduce the power supply to 6V?

using a multimeter, those would be proper connections to measure voltage. measuring current usually requires a series connection.

edit: regarding your resistor, is it a variable resistor or is it a fixed value? if it is fixed, i would suggest replacing it with a variable resistor so you have the ability to adjust the resistance on the base of the transistor.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 04:13:42 PM by WilbyInebriated »

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 07:04:55 PM »
I have done all these things those you have pointed.like variable resistance 6v current and 6v bat .But the problem is current. the  output current is half compare to input.i have changed many transistors. magnets and router also but the problem is same.

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 07:28:04 PM »
like variable resistance 6v current and 6v bat .But the problem is current. the  output current is half compare to input.

I'm confused at what you are calling 'current'. What are you using to measure this? and what is it set to display?

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 07:44:37 PM »
I'm confused at what you are calling 'current'. What are you using to measure this? and what is it set to display?
i agree. i think he is measuring voltage and calling it current.

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 12:31:23 PM »
yes dear i mean "voltage".

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 04:13:44 PM »
yes dear i mean "voltage".
your ouput is pulsed DC, the multimeter is not a good instrument to measure this with.

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 05:47:30 PM »
I am using this type of multimeter.should i use digital meter.

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 08:16:20 PM »
 i have two questions.

If i use 12v supply then how much voltage produced by this motor.
and if this motor produce 6 volts then it is normal voltage to charge a 12v battery..

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 08:29:31 PM »
This analog instrimen is even better than digital, if you have not clean proper DC voltages ...


The best is also to use (and test) with filament lamps (no LED).
So you can "see" the voltage and the power .
Use lamps witj 1 3 5 10 watts  6 and 12 volts.

It is in any way the best if you have
"no-sinusodial" voltages. AND you see
the POWER!. Testing Voltages without ans Load
is "Nonsense".
Pese

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 09:17:15 PM »
If i use 12v supply then how much voltage produced by this motor.

If you power the circuit you posted at the beginning of the thread with 12 volts you should get about 200-250v out the back end. Don't let the big numbers fool you, it's a pulse. Only very expensive meters (better an oscilloscope) will show this pulse.

The only thing that circuit is good for is charging lead acid batteries. I still use my Bedini as a battery charger. But it will enable you to prove some concepts, namely; that a collapsing field produces useful energy and lead acid batteries can be recovered/improved with this sort of charging technology.

You really should be testing the power that comes out of the charged battery not the machine itself. You would be better off buying 2 brand new batteries, a high wattage resistor matched to the batteries c20 discharge rate and a stopwatch.

1, discharge battery A to 12.4v with your resistor, note time taken
2, charge battery A to 12.9v with circuit shown, note time taken
3, rinse and repeat for about 6 weeks while building up your spreadsheet of times
4, Learn from it

Have fun...I did :)

safder

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Re: help about bedini motor
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 02:23:47 PM »
Today i am very happy . My motor is charging the battery.the problem was in my circuit. ;)