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Title: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: tishatang on November 06, 2009, 04:32:28 AM
Has everyone seen this?

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Ohmasa_Gas_by_Japan_Techno_Co.%2C_Ltd.

Tishatang
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: tak22 on July 22, 2010, 06:16:17 PM
Just noticed today that this tech continues to evolve and improve:

http://changingpower.net/articles/japanese-technologist-sees-water-as-energy-source/ (http://changingpower.net/articles/japanese-technologist-sees-water-as-energy-source/)

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He applies specific low frequencies to water and agitated it to chemically dissolve the water.  The oxygen and the hydrogen generated a unified oxy-hydrogen in a safe format, and this oxy-hydrogen solution can create fire to weld with and energy to run a motor. They already succeeded in running a motorbike with this Ohmasa gas.

I'm not working on this but maybe someone who is might try 'agitating' water? At the wort it just
gets annoyed and spits at you.  :D

tak
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: CompuTutor on July 23, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
I'm glad to see a topic-specific thread to be started on this.

I tried one and it faded without interest.

Remember, Meyer had individual piezo's
on the bottom of his tubes to do this...

Hence the notches on the outer tubes
to match the pitch (Pipe organ trick).

This ain't new.

But I must state emphatically that no one should
try to compress gas structures that are not verified !

~1600-1800:1 people, big big bang !

No lab confirmation,
DO NOT compress it !

Sorry, had to be said
before the inevitable happens...

And you do know to never ever use
a container reinforced with carbon fiber
right ??? !!!



The one thing that nags me is this,
the Hydrogen has stabilized somehow,
it stores without leaching through the
storage container walls like it usually does.


Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: CompuTutor on July 23, 2010, 01:37:09 PM
...someone who is might try 'agitating' water?
At the wort it just gets annoyed and spits at you.  :D

Remember that doing "this" tends to
allow absorbed gasses to release,
thus leaving a liquid that can be
super-heated and explode violently.

quiet a few experiments looking for
water resonance frequencies have
removed all gaseous suspensions
and allowed explosions from the piezo
causing cavitaion on de-gased liquid.
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: ramset on July 23, 2010, 03:12:32 PM
Compu Tutor
greetings,

Yes agitation does degas ,we remove Radon from water this way[so does nature].
What do you mean by piezo cavitation?[what sonoluminescence[spelling?]]

Thanks
Chet



Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: CompuTutor on July 24, 2010, 04:45:30 AM
What do you mean by piezo cavitation?[what sonoluminescence[spelling?]].

Well, theres that too,
but I was referring to a vertical column of water
degassed by the induced sound waves from a large
piezo transducer mounted at the bottom pointing up.

While playing with standing waves and so forth
the water will continue to degas and also heat up.

There will be a point reached where the water
has become super-heated without any bubbles
to start a "Rolling boil" that keeps all in check.

Especially when you consider additionally
a standing wave in the water same time.

Yes, I spell like crap, fair warning on that one,
but in case you meant your spelling Chet,
you spelled "sonoluminescence" correctly...  :)
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: kampen on October 26, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
@ All,

has anyone replicated/built and tested this?
Please let it know.
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: hartiberlin on December 10, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
Has anybody tried to use piezo water mist bublers to use ultrasonic
sound piezo devices to agitate and shake the electrolysis plates
to get these nano HHO bubbles ?

There are now some pretty interesting videos here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbWOe4I4tA


It states:

This is an extraordinary video, if you just know the meaning of what is happening.

This motorbike (1050 W Robin Engine) is driven solely on OHMASA-GAS, which has been produced by electrolysis of water with vibration.

Please watch the following video about OHMASA-GAS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPE0Z9V82E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPE0Z9V82E)

In June of this year, Dr. Ohmasa succeeded in running a motorbike using this OHMASA-GAS.

In the cylinder attached to the motorbike, OHMASA-GAS is stored at a pressure of 10 MPa (100 atm).

OHMASA-GAS is simply introduced into the simple Robin Engine, and the engine is running very smoothly powered by this OHMASA-GAS only.

After combustion, OHMASA-GAS will become just water, and never produce any pollutants.

If you electrolyze water without vibration, you will get a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen, which is explosive and VERY dangerous, and called a detonating gas. You cannot drive a motorbike as shown in this video if you use this detonating gas. You would be dead.

You might be thinking that OHMASA-GAS is a kind of Brown Gas, yet it is not. In the case of Brown Gas, running a motorbike in this way is also impossible. Brown Gas can be compressed to the pressure of 0.3 MPa (3 atm). If you want to compress more, the gas may explode.

So, only OHMASA-GAS can drive a motorbike this way safely.

You might think about hydrogen energy system.

Yet, hydrogen is very difficult to store as it is easily leaked from an ordinary metal cylinder because its molecular size (= 2) is very small. Also, hydrogen erodes the surface of metal, which is  called hydrogen embrittelement.

Also, it is very difficult to run a simple engine using hydrogen gas, as its burning temperature is very high (about 3,000 degree). At this high temperature, the material of a simple engine will be melted and the engine will be destroyed.

On the contrary, OHMASA-GAS can overcome all the above problems.

It can be stored in an ordinary cylinder for a long time (at 10 MPa more than 2 years without any drop of pressure). There was no hydrogen embrittelement on the inner surface of the cylinder in which OHMASA-GAS had been stored for 2 years. A simple engine can be run by OHMASA-GAS because its burning temperature is only about 700 degree. So, burning of OHMASA-GAS does not destroy the engine.

We are convinced that OHMASA-GAS system, which is a completely clean energy system, will save the humanity and our planetary environment.



http://www.youtube.com/user/watermemory?feature=watch#g/u
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 06:13:32 AM
 
Brilliant research. Would love to know the energy need to create the gas. That energy need  is either its saviour or demise. If wattage is used to create reasonance, it may mean just a change of electricity provider is needed so there is more energy out than in.
 
Title: Re: WATER AS FUEL-OHMASA GAS
Post by: oz93666 on July 12, 2017, 04:21:40 AM
Nearly 10 years on I can find no indication of Mr Ohmasa getting vehicles on the road ... no doubt the controllers stamped his company into oblivion ....

He made a great contribution ...isolating and liquefying the gas behind it all ....

Let me see if I've got this right.....

All people working with OHO are getting results because of a new gas called ohmasa/browns and many other names . Different electrolysis arrangements produce different amounts of this gas compared to H2 and O2 which are also produced ... we are not trying to create H2 and O2 ... these just create problems ... Ohmasa collected the products , vented off H2 and O2 , and was able to liquefy a totally new gas ..... this gas is WATER , but with a different , toroidal(high energy) structure .... the water molecules are linked together in a chain , which circles around and closes on itself forming a toroid .....

When this gas is hit by an electric charge in an ICE it causes these molecules to become plasmoids , imploding ... it is this which taps the zero point energy (according to Morey King) .