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Author Topic: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena  (Read 73659 times)

innovation_station

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2009, 02:25:31 PM »
the core ...

well em

i found the material for my large rings W material works well 10 000u  but i think it may have to do with  tuneing the core first ... 

the 814 14 ga  works well for a 1 " core 

but even so  with many cores the exact same you must tune first ... perhaps  some are just  poor quality .. i have noticed  identical cores .. to the eye but very diffrent story when tuneing .. for output!

i first do this to find how many turns on primary of core ..  once primary is found .. for best results .. i then place secondary wires to my desired voltage.. 

the most i ever got from a aa battery and  a 1"  was  680vac pure sine ... ptp no bridge...

so now  may there not be a way to convert your transmitter to operate from a jt...  ;)

i bet there is ...

is

turbo

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2009, 02:57:30 PM »
Mannix....Incorrect houses remember?? are you going to rethink that statement?

EM Devices,

What can you say about the distance between the house and the powerlines? in Meters
I just want to know how close you think it was.

If you happen to know the voltages these lines carry it's even better.

Marco.

innovation_station

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #77 on: November 17, 2009, 03:25:51 PM »
this is brilliant!

 ;D

so sm orignally built the tpu from plh

he then made a slick little unit ... all in 1

wonderful!

he then learned he could just tune right into the  source?

ist!

hartiberlin

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2009, 04:03:46 PM »
Hi EM,
nice setup and great output !

Yes, you should really check,
if more receivers will also draw more power in the transmitter.

But: There are videos, where SM did show his devices
not near power lines, e.g. on the Hifi-Rack( which probably shields this),
the white room with no furniture in it with the 2 x 60 Watts lamps
and he also showed it to Dr. Schinzinger probably at the university,
when I remember correctly...

So it is very vague to say, that it only worked near power lines.

Well, try to measure the input power into your CFL transmitter
circuit and then compare the output power from several
receiver coil bulbs.
Will be interesting to see, if you will get more output power
than transmit power put in.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2009, 06:31:44 PM »
I thought I knew all there was about resonance,.... how wrong I was !)
that's the smartest thing i have heard anyone say on a TPU thread. it's too bad you didn't have that humility sooner, you might have learned something from stiffler regarding multiple receivers.

it does not work when the power is cut off to the whole house

so what's the big deal then? when you run this device, it still spins your mains meter faster does it not? get it to work with your house power shut off and you have something...

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2009, 06:37:11 PM »
Of course, the tpu is NOT a transmitter to draw current from powerlines.
Look at Bob Boyce PDF file in the "MEG and other OU circuits" section. There it is exactly explained how and why the tpu works... Erverything fits together.


WilbyInebriated

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2009, 06:44:50 PM »
Wilby is an assclown.
typical ad hominem response from grumpy.
how does that childish response address any of my points?
can you explain to us grumpy what makes this device that is powered by mains so cool? other than it's wireless...

turbo

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2009, 07:17:17 PM »
Wilby is an assclown.

And your an ass H***
Nothing good comes from your hands but posts ending with Questionmarks.
I can't help it but i feel sorry for you....
If somebody would raize some money to get you a nice meal i would donate.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #83 on: November 17, 2009, 07:26:02 PM »
And your an ass H***
Nothing good comes from your hands but posts ending with Questionmarks.
I can't help it but i feel sorry for you....
If somebody would raize some money to get you a nice meal i would donate.
come on marco, act like an adult. i don't require you to defend me from logical fallacies with more logical fallacies...
it would be nice if someone could respond to my questions with some substance.

innovation_station

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2009, 07:28:36 PM »
guys...

for 1 what marco posted is very relivent to this ..  plh very usefull...   

think about it ....

em agin clearly a demo of  briliance...   

it all fits verry clearly stand back and take a look..  ;)

now the hv smaker .. for marcos method .. 

for em's a lower volt supply ...  and transmit from center ..  very much acess point user system

marco same thing ...  fire a fat coil fast so it radiates plh and tap them ...


is

theres 10 million ways to the same ...

hartiberlin

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2009, 07:30:52 PM »
User Grumpy was set on Read-Only
due to posting nasty stuff and name calling

innovation_station

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2009, 07:33:46 PM »
now if i can ask a question that may answer wills question

what do they share that is common between both ?  air?    eather    enviroment ? 

so makeing a wave in the envirement and tapping that wave  eather via harmonics .. or mutibles of resonants .. allows you access to eather engery ... you get the sent engery ... plus you get eather colapse ..  it may apear radient on the out put b4 rectified ..

does this sound correct?

ist!

marco can you get diffrent speeds from diffrently tuned coils to the harmonics ... if so  you get spin ..

thank you ..

make a loop of wire .. fire it resonat signal ... place 3 coils tuned by mass  around the coil ...  and tap... take output to tpu .. otto style no feed back!!

poynt99

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2009, 08:06:49 PM »
User Grumpy was set on Read-Only
due to posting nasty stuff and name calling

 ???

Stefan, you have kicked people from here for much less than what WilbyInebraited has been doing, yet he is untouched.

Why are you protecting him? You have repeatedly ignored my PM's about this, why?

WilbyInebriated adds nothing of substance to these threads, and only acts to disrupt them. Between him and Rose for example, the Ainslie thread was made into a mockery, and many good folks gave up and left because of this. Now he has moved on to the TPU threads it would seem. Do you want folks to talk technical or let these threads degenerate into the mess that inevitably follows this individual? It is quite obvious what happens when this individual intervenes, and I can not understand why you allow this?

WilbyInebriated is an individual that is consistently brazen and incendiary with folks, and seems only to be interested in turning good threads into shambles.

Are you trying to instigate a boycott of this forum by it's senior members? I would suggest it might go that way if this continues. Grumpy get's a little out of hand from time to time, but usually only because of folks like WilbyInebriated.

I would ask that you re-instate Grumpy, and rightfully set WilbyInebriated to "read-only" in his place. I know there are many many members that agree wholeheartedly with this.

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2009, 08:15:27 PM »
???

Stefan, you have kicked people from here for much less than what WilbyInebraited has been doing, yet he is untouched.

Why are you protecting him? You have repeatedly ignored my PM's about this, why?

WilbyInebriated adds nothing of substance to these threads, and only acts to disrupt them. Between him and Rose for example, the Ainslie thread was made into a mockery, and many good folks gave up and left because of this. Now he has moved on to the TPU threads it would seem. Do you want folks to talk technical or let these threads degenerate into the mess that inevitable follows this individual? It is quite obvious what happens when this individual intervenes, and I can not understand why you allow this?

WilbyInebriated is an individual that is consistently brazen and incendiary with folks, and seems only to be interested in turning good threads into shambles.

Are you trying to instigate a boycott of this forum by it's senior members? I would suggest it might go that way if this continues. Grumpy get's a little out of hand from time to time, but usually only because of folks like WilbyInebriated.

I would ask that you re-instate Grumpy, and rightfully set WilbyInebriated to "read-only" in his place. I know there are many many members that agree wholeheartedly with this.

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what exactly have i done? i ask valid questions and the response is usually a logical fallacy, typically ad hominem.
i've added plenty of substance, and asked valid questions. your entire argument is one of hyperbole...
i would suggest the 'senior members' grow up a bit and stop engaging in logical fallacies.

what exactly in my first post in this thread deserved an ad hominem response from grumpy?

turbo

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2009, 08:21:53 PM »
Thanks Stefan.

come on marco, act like an adult. i don't require you to defend me from logical fallacies with more logical fallacies...
it would be nice if someone could respond to my questions with some substance.

Okay Willy, your right.

You have to think further then the home wiring with this thing.
The fact that EM discoverd it works on his home wiring does not say this tech is no good because it spins the meter in his house, in this case.

As you know EM Fields are everywhere and at many diffrent power levels and frequencys.
This means there will not always be a meter spinning.
And if there is...it could be your neigtbours meter  ;D ;D ;D ;D
No thats just a joke man...or is it?

If you take a leap into the future you can also realize this can come in handy for recharging or even directly feeding electronic devices or even electric cars.
This way would be much safer to park you car on a charge point in stead of hooking up two dangerous high voltage connectors which wear down when used much.

That's only a quick sumup of the things i can come up with at this moment.
If we manage to extract power with this tech from natural sources it will become one of the finest available sources known to man kind.

Most of the time people do not realize the potential of certian things and they can eventually turn out to be a treasure for mankind.

Marco.