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Author Topic: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena  (Read 73655 times)

EMdevices

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2009, 09:02:20 AM »
sorry Grumpy, it's s not levitating, it just lights decent light bulbs instead of LEDs, and the range is amazing,... and it can't be shielded !!.... and my freaking computer ON/OFF switch is busted on my video processing computer, and I ran out of time, so next weekend it will have to be. 

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2009, 02:18:00 PM »
@EM

Where you able to power additional circuitry to enhance the effect?

I would love to see you've achieved something more than RF exciting the phosphorescent qualities of an organic LED  ;)  (Reference to work of another - not your current project)

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2009, 03:12:32 PM »
sorry Grumpy, it's s not levitating, it just lights decent light bulbs instead of LEDs, and the range is amazing,... and it can't be shielded !!.... and my freaking computer ON/OFF switch is busted on my video processing computer, and I ran out of time, so next weekend it will have to be.

So you can already extract Watts instead of MilliWatts ?
But it only works near power lines ?

Does the power come from the grid lines ?

Does it mean you steal the power from the grid lines
or do the grid lines only work as antennas to
pick this 25 Khz range waves up and lead it to your house ?

So does it also work just near electric cables,
that don´t carry 60Hz grid currents ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2009, 03:52:55 PM »
sorry Grumpy, it's s not levitating, it just lights decent light bulbs instead of LEDs, and the range is amazing,... and it can't be shielded !!.... and my freaking computer ON/OFF switch is busted on my video processing computer, and I ran out of time, so next weekend it will have to be.

hmm - I really was hoping for levitation...

So, lets see it.

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2009, 12:36:29 AM »
Along the lines EM aluding to got me thinking. (powerlines or not)

One or two large resosnat coils and one or two small resonant coils at exactly the same frequency , or an even ratio orientated such that the fields interact with each other in 3 dimensions...It cant be that simple, can it?
And that would mean that some  things in the letters were misleading.

the video however would be a different story

"its is just the knowledge of the coils and they way they interact with each other "
"theres is no mass circuitry involved"

Hey, perhaps that video had WAY too much information. with so little of it.

Over to you EM!





 

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2009, 01:40:35 AM »
Hello friends,

I've pondered the upside down phenomena exhibited by the first TPU  (FTPU) posted by Steven Mark, for quite some time.   Today as I was playing with my coils I realized that I have possibly stumbled on the phenomena.   

Now flip the coil and HOLD it there...............

..........  Then...... turn it off.

Turn it on again but this time upside down.

Repeat.

Do this because the change in operation may be due to the change in orientation.

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2009, 06:16:03 AM »
Ok guys,  I'll tell you what I've accomplished this weekend,  I found the culprit that was creating the strongest harmonics, and Grumpy wins the guessing game.  It was a CFL light (Compact Florescent Light, and almost all my lights are CFLs) which had some defects so I modified it and created a special resonator/magnifier to put out way more RF pollution then should be legal  :)

I'm thinking, what the hell, if I don't have High Voltage power lines next to my house, with all their PLH noise, let me create something similar.  I won't show you the magnifier as I'm thinking it might be something too novel and might have patentability.

But I created a larger receiver coil that works wonders.  Here you see it on the cement.  Next I show my workmanship on the faulty CFL, which I broke and tapped into it's guts and put heat sinks on the transistors for more current handling.  Nice isn't it!  Next is a close up of the waveform. Look at those spikes !  People in the field know what that is, it's saturation of the core.

bottom line,  I realized that resonant magnetic fields can not be shielded (low frequency ones) and they carry quite far.  According to my calculations the strength of the field is very small compared to what Steven Mark had at the mansion from the power lines behind his house.  So there is no doubt in my mind of where the power source was for his device.

Sorry I can't say anymore guys, perhaps later.

EM
« Last Edit: November 17, 2009, 08:04:32 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2009, 06:41:46 AM »
wow!

slick!

you dont need to say anymore ... 

it is quite clear how it works ...  whats the range ? and have you done many coils 1 transmitter ?

ist!

i remember sm saying once you get 1 to work you could stack as many as you desire ...

GREAT WORK !   
« Last Edit: November 17, 2009, 07:04:09 AM by innovation_station »

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2009, 06:49:03 AM »
Hi IST, yes I have, and if they are not too close together to de-tune themselves, it seems I can just extract more and more power.  I know my little transmitter can't put out all that power, so I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is more going on with these resonant fields.  I'm not making any claims yet. Range is around 20 feet !!,  (but with stabilization the output power can be regulated to appear constant, about 95 volts at 25 feet, or 60 volts at 30 feet radius, or 40 volts at 40 feet radius, but don't confuse this with unlimited current, current drops off exponentially, I'm still carrying out measurements and I'm learning so much, I thought I knew all there was about resonance,.... how wrong I was !)

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2009, 07:06:28 AM »
turn the main breaker off in your house and see if it still works.

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2009, 07:10:55 AM »
it does not work when the power is cut off to the whole house,   I thought that was clear all along  ???

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2009, 07:22:17 AM »
it does not work when the power is cut off to the whole house,   I thought that was clear all along  ???

Sorry EM, I must of glazed over that part, carry on.

Jerry :)

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2009, 07:59:00 AM »
Ok, not a problem.


guys,  I think I brought a combination of parts together (with some understanding of course)  but in some respects it was quite a lucky combination because ......  I just tried to replace the core with another one and it doesn't work nearly as good,  so I think the core might be playing a very important part in this energy reception, more then I calculated and anticipated with my design.   Wow,  I'm exhausted, just when I think I understand what I'm doing I realize it's back to magnetics and magnetostriction and more amazing interactions....
EM

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2009, 08:16:34 AM »
Hello all,

@EM

now Im really happy.

As for the core, important is the WEIGHT and the metals used.

Try Copper and Aluminium plates.

Do you have a minus in your setup??

Connect a minus to your core, if possible....play with CORES, they are sooooo important.

Otto

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Re: A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2009, 02:05:00 PM »
EM

You should be able to do the same with your mini Tesla coil if you make a receiver for it.