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pese

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2010, 10:02:44 PM »

@Pese

Even laboratory pure water will become hot in a microwave oven. The heat is primarily from molecular excitation, not electrical conduction.

I think you will need a one-wire connection to light a submerged lamp. The surrounding water simply acts as the dielectric of a capacitor. This allows for capacitive coupling back to the transmitter. This capacitive coupling is always there and the reason most one-wire and other magical experiments work.

The resistance of most drinking water is high enough to only change the impedance of the antenna, wire or lamp submerged within it. It is not a dead short.

Jes i belive that, but i never try it.
I was thinking over the posting, because ohmic resistance  is high.
Like an INSULATOR

and water that contains
salt or minerals
make it conductive.

so possibly   the time to heat it up in micro
can be different.
I an sure that some members will test this out

Pese

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2010, 02:17:24 AM »
@ Loner

Any Errors noted at this beginning stage?  Any comments?  Please feel free as I have no idea of what I'm doing, beyond jumping into the abyss, sticking my hand out and hoping there is a rope there, somewhere......

I am not sure I understand how your coil is made. This is a bad drawing but I hope you get the idea. Is this what you are doing?

« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 02:59:39 AM by xee2 »

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2010, 04:15:47 AM »
Hi Loner

Before I can even think about how it works I need to understand how it goes together. Is this a bit closer to your construction?

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2010, 04:34:47 AM »
@ Loner

Maybe a schematic is easier.  This is quick and dirty, and not zipped.
Hope this makes sense.....

Thanks. Does the other coil then go over all of this?


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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2010, 05:31:33 AM »
      If an ElF wave (dont make alot of these this bandwith is very controlled)  produces a current aka wind between the quarter wave nodes and antinodes then this current passes through every conductor in the path between transmitter and first quarter wavelength node.  This wind when meeting obstacles of a different density than the media in which the wave is propogated will induce gravity waves in the denser media.  You can also look at various geometric shapes that will concentrate currents into particular parts of a conductor.  A conductor lieing perpendicular to the transmitting tower will try to concentrate the current in the skin of the conductor.  The depth of the current determined by the crossection radius velocity of current and angle of incidence.  Im tired confused and need to sleep on this one but spent alot of time out working in the wind today near the ocean.  The ocean waves just looked to me like slowed down wind.  Gotta nap.

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2010, 05:33:22 AM »
     Link below is to gravity waves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2010, 06:23:31 PM »
@ Loner

I hope this is correct. Are there any other coil or just the these two?


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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2010, 08:00:13 PM »
Loner

so your coils are in series while being at parallel in pairs ? Very good idea

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #98 on: February 08, 2010, 09:35:45 PM »
post removed by xee2 - it was  not correct
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 10:15:14 PM by xee2 »

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2010, 05:39:36 PM »
@ Loner

Experiments take time to do, so I do not expect to hear from you for a while. But please post once in a while so we know if you are still working on it or have given up. I am looking forward to your results.

Attached are what I hope are correct conceptual drawings of you coil.




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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #100 on: February 09, 2010, 08:41:50 PM »
@ Loner

Looking at your last photo, it seems that the two primary coils are connected directly in the center. Are they as in the following drawing?  This is electrically the same as before but the current is flowing in the reverse direction in the second coil thus there are different magnetic fields?


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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2010, 04:40:55 PM »
 @Loner

     I dont want to confuse you but if you study how a klystron works it basically creates a scalar wave traveling down the core of the Kylstron.  The rf input is amplified this way by bunching up the electron beam we are so familiar with in Television picture tubes.   As the bunches of electrons pass by each resonant cavity the cavities are excited into oscillations.  Each cavity is an  rc circuit tuned to resonate at the output frequency.  The oscillations in the rc cavities take the smooth flow of electrons and turns it into a bunched flow of electrons.  As more and more electrons bunch together the electrostatic charge (cold current) flows into the rc cavities and excites them into stronger oscillations in each subsequent cavities.  The stronger oscillations bunch more and more electrons from the smooth beam into now a wavy beam.  When the amplitude of the wavy beam is at the maximum the waveguides and antennae load can take the rf amplified signal appears on the transmitter antennae.  The radar beacon is born.  Meanwhile the bunchy accelerated electron energy remnant is still beaming along.  This energy needs to be absorbed.  In a klystron they have collectors that absorb the scalar wave and turn it into heat and dump it into the enviroment.  Other uses of the scalar wave have been developed that dump it into various fields of interest. 

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2010, 10:52:47 PM »
@ sparks

The people who invented and make klystron tubes do not mention anything about scalar waves. I think you are making this up.

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2010, 11:47:27 PM »
   xee


     I dont know if it is a scalar wave but it sure fits into what I imagine a scalar wave train would look like.  It also fits into what a sound wave would do to the electron cloud inside a wire.  It would bunchemup.  The bunchemup creates a polarization of the space through which the bunch travels. It also rolls off the end of the "antennae" not transverse.  I also think that Hutchinson was playing around with modified army surplus radar transmitters to get the Hutchinson effect.  All hunches.

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Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2010, 12:24:59 AM »
Loner

Hmm, your coils look a lot like my dual layer bi-filar flat coil.  Made out of 30 gauge wire, it measures about 2 inches across with a 1/4 inch center hole. Was measuring a DC voltage off of one end another coil when the flat coil (in a choke configuration) was driven by a high frequency signal. The DC is with respect to ground, not across the coil. Go figure.

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