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### Author Topic: Scalar Wave - Energy  (Read 105546 times)

#### sparks

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##### Re: Scalar Wave - Energy
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2010, 04:08:53 AM »
What I see is Tesla was producing a lot higher frequency radiation then kilohertz. The extra coils on top of the electric motor changes the time interval between when the voltage appears across each winding in the motor.  This is like getting doutble voltage effects but at different times.  The voltage will still be 120volts to each winding but it will be out of phase.  Changing the motor into a twophase motor from a singel phase scource.  Two circuits powered up for the price of one.

#### xee2

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« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2010, 04:17:31 AM »
@ Loner

I did a quick test using a pulsed 15 KV source (ignition coil I have measured the voltage on). I put two leads on the output and then put a neon bulb on the end of one lead. With a distance of about one foot between the neon and the other lead the bulb was blinking. Capacitance falls off as 1/distance. So I would expect that if I had an output three times higher (45 KV) that the bulb would blink with a 3 foot spacing. I did not test with a tube since they do not work well with pulses and need more voltage than a neon. The unattached lead on the neon was a bit longer than 1 inch.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 04:39:08 AM by xee2 »

#### xee2

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« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2010, 03:24:58 AM »
@ Loner

I did a test by accident. I had a fluorescent tube sitting on the table while I was doing something else and noticed that it was blinking. It turns out that when each end of tube was placed within about 2 inches of the HV output wires from the coil it would blink as the coil was pulsed (nothing connected to either end of tube). So 15 KV seems to be enough to light a tube wirelessly if it is within about 2 inches of the output wires.

#### pese

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« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2010, 08:02:54 PM »
This effect is since jear good know.
Ist ist only an effect from RF distortion that is produced from the spar pulse  (and will als produces from square wafes with short on an fall times.

If you will test this out.

open an AM transistor radio in the room,

Gustav Pese

#### forest

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« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2010, 08:47:21 PM »
Does effect persist when you put this bulb into pure water (distilled) ?

#### xee2

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« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2010, 09:26:32 PM »
@ pese

Tube will light wirelessly using sine wave AC also.

#### xee2

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« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2010, 09:31:15 PM »
@ forest

I have not tried this, but I think it will. Water is just a different dielectric (with a different dielectric constant) put between the plates of the capacitor - as long as the water is not conductive (dielectrics are insulators).

#### pese

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« Reply #82 on: February 06, 2010, 01:06:37 PM »
@ pese

Tube will light wirelessly using sine wave AC also.

If low voltage sine only if very hogh voltages.
that will transittung on staic way.

if low volt sinse or sqare waves (as from some 12/110volt inverters
than OMLY if RF-Disortions , and peacs will make RF.  You will heare harmonics of the als an AM-Receivers LW / MW

GP

#### pese

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« Reply #83 on: February 06, 2010, 01:11:22 PM »
@ forest

I have not tried this, but I think it will. Water is just a different dielectric (with a different dielectric constant) put between the plates of the capacitor - as long as the water is not conductive (dielectrics are insulators).
If the water is 100% pure , so it is "insulator" like glas !!
so it will transit.

if it is norma water , is ins conducting , and willtake enery in the water
.

i thonk als ine microwave-oven

pure distilled water, the ar HI- OHM  Resistance
im must not comes hot.

GP

#### ramset

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« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2010, 04:06:17 PM »
Pese

"Pure" water in the Micro?? HMMM...

??

I must say It is "Great" to see you here again!

Thanks
Chet

#### BEP

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« Reply #85 on: February 06, 2010, 04:13:23 PM »
@Pese

Even laboratory pure water will become hot in a microwave oven. The heat is primarily from molecular excitation, not electrical conduction.

I think you will need a one-wire connection to light a submerged lamp. The surrounding water simply acts as the dielectric of a capacitor. This allows for capacitive coupling back to the transmitter. This capacitive coupling is always there and the reason most one-wire and other magical experiments work.

The resistance of most drinking water is high enough to only change the impedance of the antenna, wire or lamp submerged within it. It is not a dead short.

#### forest

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« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2010, 05:26:24 PM »
We need a strong proof that scalar longitudinal wave exists and it's not just RF.
All I suspect is that such scalar wave behaves differently then RF in water.
But  how do we  test  it ?

#### xee2

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« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2010, 07:22:16 PM »
@ Loner

I'm glad the mention of "Pure" water reminded me of one of the things that made me start looking deeper into this.  Using an old HHO plate design as a basic load. I had noted that a "Drop" in the water temp was normal when the setup was running correctly.  Again, this must be an invalid result, and why the most basic checks and verifications need to be repeated, as lots of work, past this point, was based on some of this type of "Garbage" data.  (Was too obsessed.  Won't repeat mistake...)

When water evaporates from the surface it cools the remaining water. This is because it takes energy to convert water from a liquid to a gas and unless there is another source of energy that has to come from the heat in the water. In HHO bubbler energy is being added to water by the electricity flowing into it. But heat is also being removed from the water when it is converted to gas. I have no experience with this but I would not rule out the possibility that the water was cooling.

#### xee2

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« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2010, 08:05:14 PM »
@ Loner
Obviously, this must be an incorrect measurement.  (Was peak value on scope, not meter

The peak voltage on a scope is the BEST measurement in my opinion. Meters are not made to give correct readings for pulse voltage or current, and only read AC correctly if it is a sine wave.

#### xee2

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« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2010, 08:26:27 PM »
@ Loner

lots of reference to KV, and none to 300-400 Volts, which is the value recorded in my early tests.

Lighting a fluorescent tube wirelessly from 3 feet away with a 300-400 volt output is certainly beyond my capabilities and any science I know of. However, my 15 KV is being generated from a 1.5 volt AA battery so it is necessary to differentiate between source voltage and output voltage.