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BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« on: November 01, 2009, 10:54:32 PM »
I FIRST FOUND A PICTURE OF BESSLERS WHEEL IN NOV 07
FOR FIVE DAYS I DID NOT REALLY DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND IT
NOT EVEN SLEEP
MY FIRST IMPRESSIONS WERE GROSSLY INACURATE BUT I DETERMINED THIS TO BE THE CASE, AND FORMED A NEW IDEA
AGAIN AND AGAIN  TILL I WAS OFF IN THE GERMAN ARCHIVES READING 'MACHINEN TRACTAE' IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
AT SOME POINT IT DAWNED ON ME THAT HE HAD NO INTENTION OF REVEALING THE METHOD IN HIS OWN WRITINGS
  AND SO I TURNED AT LAST TO THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THOSE WHO WITNESSED IT FOR THEMSELVES
AFTER RESOLVING ITEM AFTER ITEM I FINALLY FOUND MYSELF WITH A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTERIOR OF THE DEVICE
ITS NOT COMPLICATED BUT IT MIGHT BE A BIT BEYOND ME TO BUILD IT
IM INTRESTED IN WORKING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS ABLE TO ASSIST IN THE CONSTRUCTION
TO BE SPECIFIC.. THERE ARE ONLY TWO POINTS THAT I DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT FINAL DECRIPTION OF
 AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IN THE FINAL STAGE OF BUILDING
THESE TWO POINTS BEING 
1]THE EXACT POSITION OF ATTACHMENT FOR ONE END OF THE SPRING
2]THE EXACT METHOD OF ATTACHMENT OF THE OTHER END OF THE SPRING (EITHER CENTERED AND BALLANCED OR OFFCENTER AND FUNCTIONING AS FULCRUM)
 IM TEMPTED TO JUST MAKE A VIDEO AND BLURT IT ALL OUT BUT THE IDEA OFF PASSING ON WHAT MIGHT BE EARNED DOSENT SIT WELL WITH ME ANY MORE THAN IT DID WITH JOHANN BESSLER HIMSELF
A FEW POINTS THAT IM SURE THOSE WHO ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH HAVE ALREADY CONSIDERED..
THE WHEEL WILL FUNCTION WITH ONLY ONE SET OF TWO WEIGHTS
BUT IT WILL MOVE QUICKLY DOWNWARD THEN VERY NEARLY STOP AS IT RETURNS BACK TO THE UPRIGHT POSITION
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CLEVER TO CAUSE ONE WEIGHT TO LIFT THE OTHER
THINK ABOUT IT
THIS IS AS DIRECT AS I CAN BE
AND FOR SOME IT SHOULD BE A CLEAR EXPLANATION
THE DEVICE IS EFFECTIVLY A MOBIUS - JACOBS LADDER THAT IS SO VERY NEARLY PERFECTLY BALLANCED
 THAT THE ENERGY STORED IN A SPRING IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN
IN EFFECT.. ITS 'FUEL' IS THE STORED KINETIC ENERGY IN THE METAL OF THE SPRING
THE DEVICE IS NOT PERPETUAL; IT WILL ONLY RUN UNTIL THE SPRING WEARS TO THE POINT IT CAN NO LONGER 'RESET' THE DEVICE
(THE PENDULM ON THE EXTERIOR IS A GOVERNOR)
{THE NON SELF-STARTING DOUBLE THICKNESS REVERSIBLE WHEEL IS SIMPLY TWO EQUAL CONSTRUCTIONS OF 'EIGHT PAIRS OF SETS OF WEIGHTS' SET OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER}

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 12:50:08 AM »
From Bessler's apologia Poetica: 

A wheel appears - is it really a wheel, for it does not have a normal rim.
It revolves, but without other wheels inside or outside,
and without weights, wind, or springs.

Do you believe your idea will work without springs?

I would recommend Ralph Lortie if you are looking for a builder. He can be found over at Besslerwheel.com

He will keep it confidential.

Unless you have a working wheel, you may want to put a question mark after the Bessler Wheel Solved.

Good luck.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 01:29:44 AM »
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Welcome to the forum.
I agree with overtaker.
>>Unless you have a working wheel, you may want to put a question mark after the Bessler Wheel Solved.<<
Ralph Lortie, would be an excellent person to send it to have a evaluation. He is my mentor on helping others in this quest.

PM me and I can send you his email.

Alan

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 01:45:44 AM »
Yes, but don't go into besslerwheel.com saying you have solved the wheel, they will eat you alive! :'(

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 07:20:11 PM »
Don't show the idea to noone!!!! Don't even trust your own family! They will steal it from you!!!

Go to different machine shops and make them build the parts individually. Then you can assemble it yourself and patent it ASAP! You have already made a big mistake by talking about it in public without a patent. I will repeat don't show or talk about it to anyone, they will steal it from you. Both ABHammer and Ralph will convince you to built it for you and then patent it on their names!!!! You will die poor, and your family will leave you for your foolish mistake, while they will become millionaires.

So after 5 years when you have your patent and wheel come and talk about it, for now you must disappear completely before your idea is stolen!!!

PS: Be careful on this forum. There are many hackers that can hack your computer and steal your files. It's better to not use the internet anymore untill you have a patent.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 08:26:30 PM »
Don't show the idea to noone!!!! Don't even trust your own family! They will steal it from you!!!

Go to different machine shops and make them build the parts individually. Then you can assemble it yourself and patent it ASAP! You have already made a big mistake by talking about it in public without a patent. I will repeat don't show or talk about it to anyone, they will steal it from you. Both ABHammer and Ralph will convince you to built it for you and then patent it on their names!!!! You will die poor, and your family will leave you for your foolish mistake, while they will become millionaires.

So after 5 years when you have your patent and wheel come and talk about it, for now you must disappear completely before your idea is stolen!!!

PS: Be careful on this forum. There are many hackers that can hack your computer and steal your files. It's better to not use the internet anymore untill you have a patent.



Nice bit of slander!!! broli!!! >:(
The one who wants everybody to give it away? Open source! open source!
(if people check back on broli's past post they will see this)
Now you have given someone advice to patent? This is a change. But if you think an engineer/machinist will not figure something out when he is building the parts, you are fooling yourself.

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broli does not like Ralph and myself for we have promoted protection and patenting, while he was for open sourcing. We know a runner is bigger than all of us.

Some of the advice that broli gave is useful. I don't keep my stuff on the computer anymore either. But I do have some old stuff on it just for the hackers. LOL

There is no guaranty what you have will work. This is the law of probability of the quest. I have had several wheels that seemed that they were going to run but they would slow down and stop. My biggest breakthrough was figuring out what causes a wheel not to run.

All and all it is up to you.

Alan


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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 09:06:59 PM »
What's wrong mister AB hammer, don't like the taste of your own soup???...maybe I added to much spice.
 
 Circle be aware of these crooks, they will steal everything you have. They will be your best friends until you give them your life's work on a silver platter, they'll tell you it won't work but the very same day run to the patent office and rip you off big time. There's no way you should trust something this important to anyone. This invention can make you the most important and richest human in history so don't go naively giving it away to people you have never met or seen.

The only friend you need now is the patent attorney.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 09:44:07 PM »
OK Broli,  If you are going to call someone a crook, you better back it up!  Show the PROOF that they are crooks or STFU!!!!!

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 10:11:15 PM »
You have to be mentally deranged to blindly trust a virtual person with the biggest invention since the wheel. Isn't it funny how all kind of people suddenly ask you to "trust" them with your invention so they can "verify" it for you, people you never even met in person. Only a baby can be that naive. There's a reason why Bessler was very secretive, he knew the crooks would do anything to steal his precious invention. Luckly today we have a patent office which can protect these precious inventions before some crook gets his hands on them.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 10:15:53 PM »
What's wrong mister AB hammer, don't like the taste of your own soup???...maybe I added to much spice.
 
 Circle be aware of these crooks, they will steal everything you have. They will be your best friends until you give them your life's work on a silver platter, they'll tell you it won't work but the very same day run to the patent office and rip you off big time. There's no way you should trust something this important to anyone. This invention can make you the most important and richest human in history so don't go naively giving it away to people you have never met or seen.

The only friend you need now is the patent attorney.

broli
I don't put poison in my soup.

You must not be getting laid with that attitude and have to lie and take it out on us? Are you a JOKE of the worst kind? Slandering, telling lies and you have nothing to back up your claims. You are doing nothing but trying to hurt us with slanderous claims, while you use your poisons to manipulate the situation. 

Circle

We are here to help those who need help with their projects. We have made no money from this work. Honor, integrity, and confidentiality. If it is not a runner you loose nothing. If it is a runner it depends on what brought it about. For example, if we build and we do not have to add nothing nothing but the build, we expect only a small percentage and the honor of the build under your design. Now, if we have to do redesign to create it we will expect more depending, and a full partnership would be the highest we go. We give credit were credit is due.


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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 10:40:57 PM »
You have to be mentally deranged to blindly trust a virtual person with the biggest invention since the wheel. Isn't it funny how all kind of people suddenly ask you to "trust" them with your invention so they can "verify" it for you, people you never even met in person. Only a baby can be that naive. There's a reason why Bessler was very secretive, he knew the crooks would do anything to steal his precious invention. Luckly today we have a patent office which can protect these precious inventions before some crook gets his hands on them.

Overtaker

 broli's new views are like fingernails on a chalk board. Hollering patent after so long of hollering open source? And topping it all off with a heavy dose of slander to hurt honest people.  I wonder what it will cost to start a slander suit over in Belgian from the US. If he was in the US it would already be on its way. No one should have to put up with this unwarranted crap.

broli

For your information, several of us converse on the phone on a regular bases, and when one of us has the final breakthrough we will not leave our friends behind. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it and maybe you will see some light.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 11:24:24 PM »
Yeah of course, con artists have accomplices aka shills I can bet you won't leave them behind after the deed is done. Sorry to ruin the fun but this is one mark you won't be fooling.

Circle these people have been looking for the secret for decades. They will do anything to bring it out in there name, including fooling gullible innocent people. Leave the internet and don't mention it to anyone anymore until your invention is secure .

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 11:34:19 PM »

Both ABHammer and Ralph will convince you to built it for you and then patent it on their names!!!! You will die poor, and your family will leave you for your foolish mistake, while they will become millionaires.


Broli,

What proof do you have?

I have exchanged many emails and conversations with ABHammer, and many emails with Ralph. I find them both to be hardworking, honest, very knowledgeable and of high integrity. If they are millionaire thieves, they certainly hide it well.

Regards, Larry     

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 11:40:16 PM »
Don't try to change the subject. I said these people will do anything to get the Bessler secret credit. I didn't say they were professional thieves. I have transcripts of the so called holy Ralph doing these "favors" for self interest.

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 12:00:31 AM »
broli; LOL LMAO You are afraid you are going to be left out. You have already burnt your bridge with them and now you are trying to slander them because you you don't have a chance. You are one sad case. I pity you.