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Author Topic: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED  (Read 54976 times)

Offline Ken the Great

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2009, 12:05:11 AM »
Hello,

I just registered and read the first paragraph of the agreement and broli has violated the agreement.

Why is he still here?

I was going to share some of my ideas about the wheel and let others use them as they see fit.
These Ideas might have been tried before I do not know.
But after reading this thread and seeing the defense of slander I have reconsidered sharing anything.

People accuse others of what they are guilty of, EVERY TIME.

If you have ever seen someone accuse someone else of something that isn't true, the person doing the accusing is actually tattling on themselves.

This is true EVERY TIME. 

Knowing this, means I absolutely do not trust broli, and because of the defense of his violations of the agreement during registering, I do not trust the moderators either.

my ideas are so simple a child could build the thing once they saw a prototype.

I believe I will take the time to build my own wheel, and I might make a video of it to share. Of course if it works I won't be sharing any of the information here.

I have total disdain and contempt for people who think friendship trumps morality and integrity.

Odds are others have come very close to building a working prototype.
My advice is, SIMPLIFY THE DESIGN. You will end up succeeding.

If you over design it, it won't work.

"All truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Secondly, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."


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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2009, 12:05:11 AM »

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2009, 01:01:09 AM »
Ken,   You are quick!  It took me a lot longer to feel that way about Broli.

  If it is that simple then build it, find out if it works and then make an educated decision on what to do with it.   :)

Good luck!

Offline Ken the Great

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 02:03:51 PM »
Hi overtaker,

I just read the overunity prize PDF, and all I can do is laugh.

The rules state you must build 2 devices spend your own money to send Stefan one of your devices and then He "CLAIMS he will publish etc etc.

I don't believe this site promotes open source at all but I believe the owners of this site are trying to acquire the work of others for free then will run and steal the information.

The defense of the slander PROVES conclusively that they will compromise their integrity to defend a friend, THEY SURELY will compromise their integrity ( if they have any at all) to make a ton of money.

Why would anyone in their right mind send this nut Stefan ANYTHING?
Would you give away your work to this website to gain recognition on this website? I SURELY WON"T

As a matter of fact I wouldn't give these nutcases the time of day. I also suggest anyone else that is truly looking to help people to run also.

Thanks broli for helping to reveal the truth about yourself and the owners/moderators of this site.

 I can create a website and make it look like many people are willing to donate money, when in fact, no one is willing to donate anything.

And once you share your work with them, if they refuse to pay you have NO recourse without spending a bunch of your own money to ATTEMPT to recover your work. If you are willing to give away your work worth millions (if you succeed) why would you give it to them to steal for 15,000 dollars?

If you need 15,000 dollars that bad then you obviously cannot afford to hire the attorney's and legal team to fight these people once they steal your work. These people know this.

Critical thinking is a wonderful thing. However far and few between actually practice this.

The rules I am making if you want my work to publish for everyone is.

1) I will provide a video of a working prototype.
2) I will provide a video which will PROVE the device will work which may include showing a partial assembly of the device.
3) I will provide an affadavit that the device is what I claim it to be.
4) I will enter into an agreement that states unless the device works as described I must return all money.
5) Stefan and his nuts must travel to MY location at their own expense to view the device in action ( but not be able to examine any parts I do not want to reveal until I am paid)
6) The price for this information is not 15,000 US dollars but 15 million
US dollars.

If I come up with a working prototype I will build and give these devices away for free to poor people, to provide free energy to those most in need.
I will do this because I am not in neeed of money.

A contest for peanuts will not be the downfal of the TRUE open source of any information I have.

You have a great day and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

P.S. I was going to use the nickname "Ken (feel free to call me names)"
but that nickname was too long it said. I LOVE IT when people call me names, it is a window into their soul.

 





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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 02:03:51 PM »
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Offline Ken the Great

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2009, 02:28:02 PM »
Hi overtaker,

One more thing, when you hide the IP's the site owners can make it look like many people are donating money. Why hide the IP's? They must give you the option to hide your IP in oder for them to do the same.

OPEN SOURCE and HIDING doesn't go hand in hand, if this was a true open source site they too would realize this and publish the IP's and make it part of the agreement. I bet if they started showing IP's then there would be a bunch of people that never post here again, not because they fear having their IP's revealed, but because several people will have the exact same IP number.

Critical thinking, such a wonderful thing.

Have a great day!!

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 03:04:06 PM »
Ken

 It is good to see more clear minds posting.

Thanks

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 03:04:06 PM »
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Offline Ken the Great

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2009, 03:40:05 PM »
Hello Hammer,

I like that nick , THE HAMMER!!!

I am all for open source I put the price of 15 million US dollars on the information so when, not if, but when they attempt to steal the information they will pay for the legal team to fight themselves. Kind of a novel idea I think.:)

I not only have ideas about this wheel, I have an idea pertaining to the Floyd Sweet invention and the conditioning of the magnets.

I believe there are mini tornadoes, if you will, in constant motion in EVERY magnetic field. These tornadoes in my mind are actually the result of the absence of positive energy. These tornadoes are contained within the magnetic field and cannot exist outside of the magnetic field. This idea came to me 33 years ago but I was very young and had no idea what to do with the idea.

After reading a couple articles about Floyd Sweets device I believe I have stumbled onto an idea that is so simplistic that it will work and boggle the minds of those who have tried to recreate his device. I believe there is a way to excite these tornadoes and make them expand in size within the magnetic field to a strength large enough to extract energy from them.
But this energy will not be positive energy but in fact negative energy.
in nature these tornadoes are so small no measurable or usable amount of energy can be extracted.

Also thinking in positive terms and building in positive ways, REDUCES the size of these tornadoes because of the introduction of positive energy.
Once the positive energy is removed from the magnetic field the tornadoes will return to their original size. This is why no mainstream scientific mind can even attempt to grasp it.

So one of 2 things must happen, one must excite the device with negative energy to turn it on, OR one must change the orientation of these tornadoes so they are not adversely affected by the positive energy used to excite the device. I believe Floyd Sweet figured out how to orient these tornadoes.

I also believe I have figured out how to alter the orientation. And it is so simple it makes me laugh.

If one orients the tornadoes properly, once the device is excited the tornadoes will EXPAND to such a size energy can be extracted but it will be negative energy.

I do not know your background so I apologize if I am making this more remedial than necessary. I like layman terms myself instead of trying to make others feel inadequate if they do not have the education and insight of others. I want them to understand, I have no desire to SOUND like an EGGHEAD.

In conventional electrical theory, it is taught that the 29th electron in the valence shell of the copper atom jumps from one atom to the next and this is what causes the electrical potential to move through the wire. Also known as amps.

But lets look at it from a different perspective. once an electron jumps from one atom to the next, a HOLE is created where the electron used to be.
FOLLOW THE HOLE, ignore the electron. this HOLE has potential energy yet no particle (positive particle that is) Energy without particles ( positive particles) will create no heat , and in fact any existing heat will be pumped  AWAY from the hole.

Extracting these HOLES from the oriented tornadoes is possible and more simple than most people think, because they have been taught in positive ways and these positive learned ideas will not be dismissed by people unless they experience a paradigm shift, which is impossible if one has an ego based on his education.

Ego based on education = main stream science.

Once the magnets are conditioned, you can build the device for a few hundred dollars.  Cost of wire , magnets, and a few miscellaneous parts, and a case to put it in.

I think it would be a blast to have the time to try a few things, but I lack time.

You have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!



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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2009, 02:57:19 AM »
goodness gracious this is not what i expected, lets start by a suggestion, lay off the caps buttom

heres how i see it

broli was being sarcastic in about every way, and satirizing those who support patenting

i am not aware of everyones relationship to each other, nor i do know what happened between you all, but i dont think it was to be taken literally, and even as someone who does not know broli it is pretty clear everything he said he actually thinks the exact opposite


if it was out of spite, it was a little extreme, but feeding into turned this thread into a 4 page shit show


Ken the great is most likely broli, AB Hammer knows this (or at least thinks it), and to further try and anger broli, he supported him fully

i didnt solve besslers wheel but i think i solved this one

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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2009, 02:57:19 AM »
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2009, 03:59:18 AM »
mr_bojangles

 No, I don't think it is broli. I already PMed Ken with who I think Ken the great is.

Ken the great

 I am a blacksmith that specializes with medieval armor by trade, thus I use the Hammer. ;)

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2009, 04:29:01 AM »
hah well i would imagine your gues is more educated than mine in this instance (seeing as how i have no idea what the fuss is about) all in good fun tho  ;)

that is a very interesting profession, is it in your family? or did you aquire the taste for metal later on

normally i would apologize to circle for steering this thread away, but he seems to be in remission, best of luck to him and all


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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2009, 04:29:01 AM »
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Offline Ken the Great

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2009, 04:20:27 PM »
LOL@me being broli.

Thats great!!!!! I now have window into your soul. hehehehe

I am not broli, nor do I hide my IP. If people are respectful ( of me AND others) I don't mind sharing EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

Do you like my caps? I use them as I SEE FIT!!! HAHAHA I do not succumb to nonsensical accusations nor attempted ridicule. I just use the information to describe the one spouting it.

Someone emailed me. I will not say who. I have given him some of the information for free. If he decided to attempt to build the wheel I will share anything I can.

It is easy to sit back and guess who someone is without knowledge tact or common sense, if accuracy is not a prerequisite.

bojangles, Seein' how you like no caps your name has no caps in it. LOL

Why would you accuse me of being broli? I just joined this group, but I am thinking it is already time to quit. Whats with all the damn whining?

broli was whining and spouting untruth's, pretty much everyone EXCEPT the moderator knew this. Hell I knew it and just joined. I see now you are whining and spouting untruths also.

This makes me believe you are broli. I mean IT IS the same tactic. LOL

You both hide your IP numbers. What are you scared of?

My IP number will be the same everytime, and It doesn't match any other IP. You however hide your IP. Interesting mindset you have.

Now for the real reason I posted

Hammer, that is and interesting occupation.
Is there a market out there for armor? Or do you do all types of blacksmith work? The last time I forged anything was about 20 years ago.
Nothing compares to the first couple hits with the hammer on the red hot steel.

Do you have a website or something with pictures on it? I would like to see some of your work.
 
Well you have a Great Day!   

"Don't worry about the lemmings, they won't follow you if you have an idea."

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2009, 07:04:02 PM »
Greetings Ken

 Here is a link of some of my armour work. I will be updating it in a few months.
http://www.creationtime.com/hisbsaw.htm

 I don't hide either, I am Alan Bauldree and legal alias is AB Hammer (this was done for my banks purpose when I lived in KY) and my email is ab.hammer@yahoo.com

You are correct but I like to say there is nothing like taking something void of design and making a useful art out of it.

Alan

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2009, 08:22:51 AM »

normally i would apologize to circle for steering this thread away, but he seems to be in remission, best of luck to him and all

Circle may have steered clear of this forum due to the input of broli, but take my word for it, he is not in remission and is very much alive and kicking!

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Offline sevich

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2009, 03:05:26 PM »
Lol !!!...keep it coming :D

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2009, 11:07:11 PM »
Could somone post a link to all or most of the eye witnness accounts because if he looked at them and found somthing i would like to try it, thanks

Alex

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Re: BESSLER WHEEL SOLVED
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2009, 11:27:25 PM »
haha very true

the caps i was referring to was that of circle in the beginning

well the reason i suggested Ken to be broli was due to your interesting timing and lack of posts in other areas,

apologies then for my mis-guided attempts at finding the truth of the matter, it was not a an accusation, but merely a guess at something that possibly could be

the reason i suggested it is because what you say sounds like something broli might, in the area of open sourcing, and something that might contradict AB in a sense, and when AB agreed it seemed like he was thinking along the same lines as myself

no worries Ken, i would very much like to see your ideas and hope you might take the time to voice your opinions on  my ideas as well

 

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