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Author Topic: FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED  (Read 3464 times)

innovation_station

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FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED
« on: July 08, 2008, 05:26:28 PM »
this is how it works in 1 aspect

we make an action

the action causes a reaction

currently we stop there and use the engery for work ....  in todays world...

now some of teslas stuff is based on what im gonna say next

so we now have a reaction caused from an action we made  now take the reaction add it to the action to close the loop  so that the action = the reaction wich = the actiion

hope you get it it is indeed a verry simple concept to grasp

i call this a positive feed back loop!!

when we look back in history many machines have been built this way and operate on thease princibles

im gonna leave it there

do add to this

i do have a tonne more i can explain but this is simplest

just look at the filsinger turbine  throw a pump on the end of it   ;)  close the loop :)

ok look at thane hiens  self acceleration motor it works the exact same way but magnetically  useing bemf  converted to magnetic with a feed back loop to the rotor via a steel shaft  8)

i as i said can keep going but you get the idea no?

is overunity real  NO IT IS NOT   only unity operation just like the ying yang  ;)

l8r

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Omega_0

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Re: FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 01:22:30 PM »
Well, I was expecting and real breakthrough ... anyway. ;)

Unity systems are no problem. No laws (physical or legal) are there to stop you from making a unity system.
Its the overunity that is forbidden. Because the second law of thermodynamics seems to rule this universe. Which means the universe always goes uphill on entropy and disorder. Which means energy occupies states that are too low and dispersed to do any work, with time. At most we can halt or slow this degradation down, but can't continue forever. More work = more degradation. So more work requires more energy.

Take a pendulum, its moving but not doing any work. It can go on forever, no laws to stop it. Its a unity system.
Add friction and air resistance or some weights which needs lifting. In other words make it work. It quickly halts. Because now its not simply moving, its connected to the universe and giving it away its ordered energy. It had only a few states, but now it has found a million more states to be in and law of huge numbers says that it will settle down to something average, more or less having the same state as its surroundings. Which means it gains entropy. There is no way to return it back to its previous state other then connecting it with a system of even lower entropy. Which means giving it energy.

Take a light bulb. Send a pulse of current and quickly remove the battery and short the wires. So that there is only this bulb with both terminals shorted by a wire. The pulse goes in one way and comes out the other and returns back. Lets make it glow forever. It gives off light which goes in all directions in the universe. Now by some means collect all this light, convert it back to the pulse and send it again into the bulb. It glows again and repeat. This is a unity system. Yin Yang. Light bulb glowing forever without consuming energy.

The only problem is you won't be able to see anything with this light, because as soon as you place some object, say a book, in the system, it will absorb some light and waste some by reflecting out of the system and producing heat and so on. The pulse goes on diminishing and after some time, its gone. So a perpetual lamp without spending energy, but of no use !

So a unity system is possible but it must be disconnected from the whole universe.




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Re: FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 07:41:27 PM »
OK Guys,

since we're talking hypothetically, Take a planet with a moon, like ours. The moon is too big for its size and distance from the earth. It is slowly drifting outward from us every year. The moon makes tides from which we can and have recently begun harvesting energy using underwater turbines. Does the added resistance of the water drag on the moon and slow it down - even a little bit. Drag is what causes low earth orbiting object to fall inward. If you setup a system where you had enough turbines to slow the outward spiral of the moon just enough so that it wasn't drifting away anymore. Wouldn't this be classifiable as a perpetual motion system - an overunity system? Impractical, yes. Ridiculously expensive, of course. But what laws of physics make this impossible? ???

sandor

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Re: FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 09:47:04 PM »
The moon is too big for its size? Is that a riddle?

The source of energy from tidal forces is the Earth's rotation, not the moon. In fact the process puts energy into the moon, rather than taking it away, but it takes more out of the Earth than it puts into the moon. As a result, the Earth slows down its rotation speed, and the moon gets pushed into a higher and slower orbit. Oddly enough, it moves slower too, it may be hard to visualize how they could BOTH slow down but because the moon gets farther even so, the angular momentum remains constant - well, barring the sun's tidal forces, which aren't exactly negligible. So no, it's not perpetual motion. The length of a day on Earth increases by one second every hundred thousand years because of its slowing down. Around the time of the extinction of the dinosaurs, the length of a day on Earth was over 10 minutes shorter. So if you build a time machine and go back 65 million years, don't forget to set your watch every day because you can expect 23 and 3 quarter hour days. 300 million years and you could expect 23 hour days.

In time, the Earth's rotation will slow a great deal, the moon will attain a much higher orbit and then a day will come when the Earth doesn't make it around one more time. The moon will then be in a geostationary orbit. But we're talking 2 billion years here, and the Earth will not be capable of supporting life in a mere 500 million to 1 billion as the sun gets more powerful.

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Re: FREE ENGERY EXPLAINED
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 10:47:40 PM »

In time, the Earth's rotation will slow a great deal, the moon will attain a much higher orbit and then a day will come when the Earth doesn't make it around one more time. The moon will then be in a geostationary orbit. But we're talking 2 billion years here, and the Earth will not be capable of supporting life in a mere 500 million to 1 billion as the sun gets more powerful.

Assuming there is no outside effects. Which there will be in that amount of time.