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forest

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2009, 08:49:34 PM »
I think first is to get primary generate shockwave and this is really visible (and dangerous) at low frequencies.
I think the correct primary is the must in Don Smith system, the rest is pump and collector.
I think his most known device (with series of oil tank capacitors) is just using the same principle as Kapanadze device but in a lot more clever way.
Get residue electrons from positive terminal of capacitor and force them back into negative and do it very fast.
That way you have to really work hard to make such capacitors discharged.A pump analogy is very adequate.
You create a big potential difference on one side of capacitors bank which recharge them fast, on the other side load is discharging it but a slower rate. The device stops when those rates become equal.
My idea is that we could have use the same electrons indefinitely, voltage is real cause of current flow.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2009, 08:53:05 PM »
Don actually says there is no electron loss on the primary side. We get the curent from the ambient. Pretty clear.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2009, 09:06:31 PM »
He said also that he used (something) "which is already there" ,I think he might thought about "dead" electrons in discharged capacitor bank.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2009, 10:23:38 PM »
I should have counted how many times he said that...
It is is 'that' which keeps retriggering the involvement.
The pattern can be easily resolved by looking at all the devices and apply what the creator has stated about them. SM, Muller, Bearden, Bedini, Hutchison, Tesla, Moray, Gray, and others have given unexplainable demos at their time of the event. As we look back things become clearer. If there is still something that all these demos have hidden then I would not be the only one infinately baffled forever. I am not even the slightest baffled but thrive on the explicit descriptions given from their view. There was so much to learn now so much to do so I am heading to the clearest of designs. I feel Don Smith has given this. But that is no discredit to the others efforts.
Recently it occured to me the little black box in the SM17 could be a neon ballast. The mag amps on top? Could be a hoax, diversion or a reconfigured output transformer of the last stage of a stun gun circuit.

He said also that he used (something) "which is already there" ,I think he might thought about "dead" electrons in discharged capacitor bank.

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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2009, 10:26:28 PM »
Thought I would bring this post over here for cohesion.

@tsl,
With a single piece of wire you can achieve an R, an L, an C. The right configuration matched with the right frequency. The wire length(frequency), coil diameter(inductance & impedance), the spacing of the windings(capacitance).

The ringing actually gives us a larger window with which to interact with our pushing pulses. This also lines up with Otto's spec of a negative pulse that would put it in phase with the BEMF. As the initial ringing subsides in the 'primary diminishing echo' that enables us to pick a wave height at a certain time which relates to amplitude for a heterodyned push. In the attached diagram pick a red arrow for the timing you want. You only need to hit one.

Push once in the device or tank ringing to control the amplitude. But if you push trash or uncontrolled then you are pushing in a summing and diminutive effort. That is what my tests ran into. Called freewheeling. The frequency that appeared was the natural resonance of the 6" coil wire length or a subset thereof. The solid state wanted to ring at one frequency but the coil at another.

Look at the SM17 large windings as 2 multiwinds with a spacing of 4" -6" for capacitive storage.

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I found a gas tube power supply that has a 12V input / car battery and 6kv out. I get to skip adding a DC to 120vAC inverter because of newer technology. It runs at a freq fo 30khz. This places a HV of stable frequency as input to the coil. The spark gap appears after the coil to enhance the shock.
I have 45 nonpolarized caps in 3 rows of 15 to equal 102uf @ 12kvac.
With the Kapanadze device running on a 9v battery I believe they have reproduced the Smith device. It is a square TPU.

--gk.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2009, 11:41:42 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2009, 08:35:43 AM »
Thought I would bring this post over here for cohesion.

giantkiller

can you post a schematic when a push force is making positive only impulses of higher second harmonic of ringdown ? I'm not good at it. Does somebody have a scope shot of something I'm talking about ?
Seems that I saw somewhere a picture which may be correct but I'm not sure.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2009, 07:46:19 PM »
Otto showed the schematic of the negative pulse from a FET and coil.

giantkiller

can you post a schematic when a push force is making positive only impulses of higher second harmonic of ringdown ? I'm not good at it. Does somebody have a scope shot of something I'm talking about ?
Seems that I saw somewhere a picture which may be correct but I'm not sure.

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2009, 06:54:11 PM »
Requirement #1
High 'Q'
Coil wire of quarter wave length of determined frequency.
Requirement #2
Air core
Requirement #3
Tx/Rx Multipli or divisionally lengths of Oscillator frequency.
Requirement #4
Ratio and position dependency on load. (Muy Importante!)
Requirement #5
Copper mass to match load.

Page 6 second pic
http://www.free-energy-devices.com/Smith.pdf

For bifilar tests to work there must a ratio other than 1:1. Don points this out.

Tesla coils have their primary at the bottom. Ever wonder why? Move it to the top and exceed the copper mass current handling of your design. Tesla coils are electrostatic by voltage. I had posted another pic of the orignal Smith PVC coil by Tesla. It clearly showed the primary in the middle. Smith on the other hand made it (tunable? NO!) ratiometrically adjustable. Pure genius of design. Do you want current or voltage? Voltage is a electron left had spin and current is the right hand spin.
The primary has 14 turns and the sensing has 7 turns. Isnt that quaint? Using Don's information we can get alot by knowing the frequency, count the turns and layers. A Helluva lot!

Page 46, 74.

Resonance is think and maintain highest of 'Q'. This excludes high current. The coil abruptly throws out a magnetic charge. The higher the Q the farther the field with the most energy hitting a secondary.This includes alot of free electrons surrounding the coil. They are brought into alignment and then let go returning to statis. That BEMF is our kick in this design. In resonance the driving pulse hits before 100% decline. One - oh - One.
The fractions are positional meaurements and distance ratios. Not electrical measurments. But these figures are usable in the estimations. One can also count the windings! What a blessing.


--giantkiller. Is this a test?
« Last Edit: November 20, 2009, 08:59:55 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2009, 07:05:55 PM »
At Last people are waking upto Don Smiths stuff.
If you havnt seen the latest videos released into the wild Watch them theres some tasty bits in them

Don_SmithInventors_Weekend_2001

Don_1998_Interview_and_workshop

I had to buy them but they are now appearing on the net

;)

Peter


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« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2009, 07:56:01 PM »
Glad to hear there are others. I posted this 2 years ago and got dragged away into my curiosity of other coils and processes. Got ADHD. I am easily distracted by sparkly technologies.  :o And have built way cool devices with extensive doco behind them. An engineer's dream!

I do pattern matching to the Nth degree. I know that bothers some. But! Apply Don Smith's descriptions to Hutchison's work! Piece of cake. And that matching up quiets alot of trolls and naysayers. That is why I don't have trouble with them. I just throw another card/example from the masters on the table.
Here is another gift:
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Of all the examples and explanations posted by all, Don gives outright the answer, a deep peer into the goings on in a linear fashion. I have found his to be the most clear cut in language that is native to all of us.

And that is how this thread got its name. 'Nuff said.

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'By Christmas'
and that schedule has not stopped. Thanks.

So following Don's diagrams I have bought similar parts. I have batches of like capacitors and have built chains and arrays to get the voltage and farads. I have an ignition coil with an automotive spark plug cable connecting the plug and iggy. The plug is mounted in an aluminum can with others layers of cans wrapped around that. I have an em wave ghost meter for field sensing. The iggy will be driven with an IRF840 and 12v. I have the copper core coil that produced the ringing that STPRUE was duplicating with other windings over it. Simliar to the Smith TPU in the previous post but 4" diam. I have an isolated scope for measurements. My 12v supply are parallel RV batteries. This starts the front end pulsing. I also have an HV neon drive module coming in, Just like Don had mentioned.
It is treat time: Don's device has a 120v ballast. We get to skip all that because now they sell 12v input neon drivers for gangster's license plates and running boards. These are cheap. Frequency is 30khz. Don said 35k. Right off the shelf.
The output stage will be played with after I get this input side done. I have a handful of microwave oven diodes also. My cap banks are rated at 12kv102uf and 1kv@1000uf.

My control primary is a full wave length division of the secondary at 1/4 wave length. I can put other primaries on at a moments notice. I need to add a sensing coil. Nothing cut in stone. Everything modular.

No special controllers or technology that is susceptable to outburts. Also I want to start with a small sized device. In this case: size doesn't matter.

So I start off with a 12vdc go thru all the middle stuff to create a 12v supply to charge a cell phone? Why? Because Don stated that the battery leads supply DC and that magnetic field is pulsed with the resonant discharge of the circuit to recharge the battery(like a Bedini motor, mechanical). That means this can be done with a rechargable 'AAA' battery. Just like IST said!

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2009, 09:39:47 PM by giantkiller »

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« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2009, 10:22:40 PM »
Giant

God's speed

PS you may want to research your spark plug, most these days have some patented tech built in to stop RF emissions, i am not sure what the patent is or if it could kill the effect we are after, but it's worth bearing in mind anyway.

Peter

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« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2009, 10:25:49 PM »
Peter

What ever cam e of your build?

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« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2009, 10:54:17 PM »
Hi stprue
I am self employed and work 6 days a week, and october and november are manic for me, so it's really come down to time, but i am now getting more time, the other problem i have had is i live in a flat full of high tech stuff and couldnt find the courage to power it up incase i damaged my equipment.
This week i have been moving my lad equip to work, so instead of being 6 days away from my work bench i will be 6 days with it and there is very little high tech gear at work so it's much safer for me to power up.
I have just ordered a 200mhz pc scope with a built in Spectrum analyser which will hopefully also come in handy.

So wont be long before i start up again.

Peter

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« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2009, 11:16:45 PM »
Hi Peter,

Good to hear from you and your progress! :D

Good luck with the testing!


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Re: Bloch wall disconnect and reconnect. The final design!
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2009, 11:20:54 PM »
Hi Spider
Good to see you are still around long time no speak, same old thing either too much work with money and no time or no work loads of time and no money LOL, it will be good to be back at the bench soon.
I hope you and the Mrs are well.

Peter