what COP values does your motor produce with a load?

That's the interesting part!
In a typical motor, work is done by applying current to generate a field that forces against another field to cause rotation. If no rotation occurred and the fly back from the collapsing field was recovered, one could recover a large portion of the applied current. However, if any rotation occurred, then the collapsing field cannot ever be fully recovered because the field it is now in, is a different value than the field when the current was applied.

Because my design cuts no lines of force and never changes field direction, it should be able to obtain about.....I guess I really cannot calculate this. I may be able to get this info from the magnetic modeler I used to design it. I was working on the magnet only version of this device because it will show beyond any doubt that it is OU. Though the magnet only version would be mostly a novelty device because it would not produce much output, it would be per.....per.....pet....perpetual....ah...I wasn't sure I should say that.
 

If you apply current to a coil standing in free space, then collect the fly back from the collapsing field and nothing changed, but work was still done.

I can say that the more current you would apply the more torque you would get, but the more load applied would never increase the required current. Operating it in reverse will not make a generator because no field lines are cut or changed.

I know it's strange sounding and I am just a bit pissed because I have been off from work for about three months and I thought I could get this built and show it working on the tube, but now, I have been called back to work and now all my time is going back to make someone else more money.
All I needed was about one more month off from work. Going back might last only a short time, so I hesitate to post the plans in case I might have time to work on it again in a week or two when I'm out of work again.

I don't think I should be talking about a different device in someones thread, so I will quit. I'm just a bit excited about this concept because I have already tested in Maxwell and confirmed it's operation.

@lumen

One last thing for those who wonder where the energy comes from.
If I had a 1kg weight and dropped it, how much energy would I get?
The question then is, "how far will it fall?" and the answer is FOREVER.
No, not possible in gravity, but it is possible in a magnetic field!
Same torque applied forever!

LOL, these are the important questions the average person never considers that a creative mind must by its very nature--- the "what if" scenario. To truly understand something we have to see it from every angle from all perspectives, we have to remove the confines of the system that limit it. Cool, regardless of what you decide to do it's nice to hear a fresh perspective rather than the dull monotonous drone of the skeptics hovering about.
AC

@AC

Good to hear from you. OK, OK, I"ll bite on the pseudo blotch wall argument existing between the coils or magnets more specifically. After considering this from many angles, the only way I could see this as mildly possible is if the cores of the coils where in fact magnets, but definitely not neo magnets, but most likely Alnico magnets. Alnicos will send their flux further out but weaker. Neos will have a field closer in but way to strong to try and shield out.

Now the cylinder, onto which each coil is wound, is either fully comprised of a magnet, or the cylinder has multiple linings with a smaller magnet placed inside, this to block the magnets flux from exiting the open end and over the coil that is wound over it.

The left magnet end that is closest to the rotor has its flux field going far enough to cover the right coil. The right magnet end that is closest to the rotor has its flux field going far enough to cover the left coil. So.......when the rotor is open, each magnet covers the opposing coil and when the rotor is closed, each magnets flux is blocked. The rotating rotor alternates the open and closed, or free and shielded moments of the magnets going over their opposite coils. That would make a field move over the coils. But which polarity of the magnets is facing inward and outward. The coil pair bucking wind is a given so this simplifies the question. Then the actual test design would have to integrate a way of permitting the removal of the magnet from the coil center in order to turn it around and try it in the other way. Otherwise my best guess is one North and one South facing the rotor. This will ensure a differential flux in from one coil to other to provide energy flow directionality.

The other question would be rotor material, but if the material existed and was dia-magnetic, then there cannot be any drag exerted onto the rotor, hence the dc motor would be free to turn at its maximum, even with the coils being more and more energized by the fluctuating field. This would be a dragless generator.

So.........this may have something to it after all. Regarding the outputs mentioned, I doubt it, but will not bet anything on it either way. I'll save my money for more toys instead. Testing on this could be done with just one coil pair and two magnets to start with. If the effect pans out, then one could consider a full build. But, again the main trial and error effort will be the rotor material. You would have to do tests with materials, a magnet and a compass, with a second smaller magnet further away to bias the compass needle.

i would have modded my last post but the time ran out on it ...

so ill add this .. there is 1 device or 2 i really WANT TO MAKE FROM DONS WORK ...

THEY WOULD BE THE PLASMA INTERACTION DEVICES

COME ON NOW .... DO THEY LOOK THAT HARD ?  LOL!


LOOK WHAT I FOUND 

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://scopeboy.com/elec/plasma/globe2-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://scopeboy.com/elec/plasma/index.html&usg=__yvHsepe7R05clUON1GA9mobeZYk=&h=522&w=400&sz=25&hl=en&start=38&sig2=AJ1OBpoV2KKTVCA94KwBjA&um=1&tbnid=6jEhvlGkYDr7EM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPLASMA%2BGLOBE%26imgsz%3Dm%26imgtbs%3Dz%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1&ei=Y-HuSt7GFt_UlQf1qIiABQ

IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A JT POWERING THE UNIT........  HUMMMMM

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://cyclotron.lbl.gov/images/plasma.jpg&imgrefurl=http://cyclotron.lbl.gov/88History.html1.html&usg=__4dzB2ywh2TE2KVSH2jn39VwXEso=&h=319&w=312&sz=14&hl=en&start=120&sig2=xcA4vKhK3ziPnWB3rSz_Ug&um=1&tbnid=-_Dw8vM1urlDjM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDON%2BSMITH%2BPLASMA%2BBALL%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D100%26um%3D1&ei=SePuSs7_FpPIlAfO3YmABQ

CHECK IT OUT ... 

OK NOW REALLY IM DONE WITH DON SMITHS WORK FOR NOW ...

IST!

ENJOY..

WATE 1 MORE PIC 

have a look at dons advanced plasma unit ..

why is the plasma centered .. 90 deg to the plates ...

the plates are CAPS...... maybe its a FLUX CAP  VIA PLASMA INTERACTION ..

PLASMA HAS ELECTRIC INTERACTIONS MAGNETIC INTERACTION AND I BET GRAVITO MAGNETIC

AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE ..

don does the demo ...  in his advanced plasma device it is the same demo he does in the video useing a BATTERY POWERED TESLA COIL .. but in the tc coil demo he is manipulasing via cold electric means ..

the plasma device via plasma ..  wich im wondering if plasma is cold electricty in a vaccume  in electromagnetic resonance ..

hummmm

ps some time ago i had a plasma vortex .. magnetic controlled spinner designed ..

the only thing i thought it needed that i could not do myself ..  was  some contact points ..

placed within the vaccume tube...

i left it alone .. it was not plasma time yet...  but basically as it spunn the plasma vortex .. it could make contact with the out pins..  but the plasma must stay plasma in the vaccume .. and i dont know weather it would collapse upon conductive contact!!

outta here..   ist!

so it apears to me at this time ... that don has come up with a better way to do it ... 

don is useing THE SAME MEDIUM TO ACCESS.... VIA PLASMA ,MAGNETIC RESONANCE COLD ELECTRICTY ..  ECT...

WHAT IS HE MANUIPLATING ... ?

NOW CONDUCT THIS EXPARIMENT AGIN .. USEING A BATTERY POWERED TESLA COIL .. AND YOU NOW HAVE ELECTRICAL CONDUCTION THROUGH THE PLASTIC ..

I would need to know just for starters,the resonant freq of this 14",,12 volt Tesla coil,,,14" and 12 volt don't lend itself (in a practical,Tesla coil build) to
very much electric flux.I would be very curious of
the tank capacitor and spark gap??
Resonance is the key,,and usually works by the matching of capacitor,break rate,cut-off time to
the primary in order to excite the secondary,at
resonance,,,any idea the resonant freq of the TC?
j.

what is the material of sheet that can intercept magnetic field in don machine?

Various materials have been mentioned. He has suggested grinding up neodymium
magnets, and sticking the powder to, possibly, stainless steel. "Magnetostrictive"
gets mentioned, but this stuff is fabulously expensive. I am going to try grinding up
the ceramic stuff you get in 3.5" floppy drives. It is pretty easy to do. And then
glue it on to a disc of SS. It may not work, but it is easy to try.

it seems to me that what he wants is a magentic barrier to interrupt, and I am
surprised nobody has mentioned mumetal, particularly since you get the stuff in
old scrapped hard drives. (Around the magents under the coil).

yikes ...  intresting you say that .....

im not telling why public.... 

w

can you make it liquid ...  dont honestly know much about that material .. but it clicks ...