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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2007, 09:44:46 PM »
Paul,
I removed Ergo?s message, so you can still sleep again
and won?t be afraid of your investors getting furious with you...

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2007, 11:20:46 PM »
Drawing of the motor and video of it is still out there - no problems to find those even several of them are now deleted. Or isn't it that which is the problem?

Vidar

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 12:22:27 AM »
The old post is still available as google cache.
Just try out ( paul sprains wankel ) or similar combination of words.

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 12:22:27 AM »
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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2007, 12:38:50 AM »
As I have understood it, Paul don?t wants his investors to get furious now,
as he has already told us too much, so that he might not
get a patent anymore....

But after he has got his patent he wants to show it all...
this is my understanding of it...

So we still have to be a bit patient.

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2007, 12:48:14 AM »
I don't hope my FBDISSM is intruding his EMILIE.
Perhaps it will intrude his patent rights and perhaps this will kill the FBDISSM.
If so, I guess I will get to know it sooner or later.

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2007, 07:44:37 AM »
Honk,
you don?t use both poles of your magnets, so you are wasting 1/2 of
the possible power.
Just redesign it to use both magnet poles!
Just use "U" shaped rotor and stator magnets or just use bar magnets
with a core, so they are "U" shaped all in all !

Good luck !

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2007, 08:05:52 AM »
I have transfered my answer to the official thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3456.msg57716.html#msg57716

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2007, 12:57:55 PM »
Ergo! Why are you messing with me? Please remove the zip file. I should have not said anything. Please dude i'll get in trouble.

Paul
You'll get into a lot more trouble than that if you are withholding from your investors the true extent of the prior art.

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2007, 06:26:11 PM »
I think what has been happening more frequently in this forum is dispicable.  A person uses everyone elses knowledge to forward their own agenda and then asks that any reference to what has been discussed be removed from the forum. hartiberlin you should not be enabling this to occur.

@hartiberlin
   You should have a disclaimer where you type messages, that anything posted here is considered open source and may not be removed.   This would bring your forum more in line with what you have stated in the past.  That people that do not want to contribute to the general good and only want their private/pattented items to be furthered by the forum are not welcome.
   To allow for people editing their posts, but not allowing them to just go back and delete all they have done, a history of the old messages should be kept when edited, and a link in the upper right of the message should link the the old versions of the messages.  This way a message can be edited, but the original one can always be referenced. (similar to a wiki).  This should hold true to any files/images that were attached and actually posted.


This is just my two cents worth... and would make me feel like any contribution by the forum will not be snubbed when a person is bought out by money.

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2007, 06:42:54 PM »
I think the format should be kept as is. If someone wants to delete his or her postings, let it be. These patents are no good anyway. See how many perpetuum mobile patents the US Patent Office has already issued. What is the outcome of that? Has Science recognized perpetuum mobile as anything other than nonsense? Do we have perpetuum mobile's powering anything else but the imagination of certain people? The answer to both question is in the negative. Let Paul Sprain, and whoever else, dream of becoming wealthy. Why should it be of concern to you?

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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2007, 12:01:31 PM »
All,

I do not see any problems for Paul receiving his patent. US patent office is only to well known for its' ability to give patents to anyone. You just ask for it. However, Paul's "patent" is untenable at best. There's not even required 35% of difference to be found in his claim. The concept is already in public domain, being nearly 40 years old and the only difference between "Paul's" motor and original spiral motor, also known as magnetic Wankel (maybe Wankel's family would have something to say about the unauthorised use of their name?) is attraction instead of repulsion.

That can't hold water in any court. If Paul receives his patent, it can be annulled in no time on appeal. But that would be waste of time as it is not even necessary.

If Honk's experiments yield results (overunity in a useful amount), what will Paul do then? Hopefully Honk won't fall into that trap himself and will keep the word to have it open source.

But the best news is that, for as long as you make one, or many, and do not sell it to anyone, no patent is protecting the "inventors".

In the spirit of true open source, various pieces can be manufactured by various people and they can sell to each other, and to the rest of us,  just these pieces (you would have to assemble it by yourself or a third party professional) and no breach of patent's right would occur.

Patents are just a joke if you know how to perfectly legally neutralise their limitations.


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Re: paul sprain = another victim of the money
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2007, 12:01:31 PM »
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