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Author Topic: Understanding electricity in the TPU.  (Read 361686 times)

giantkiller

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #600 on: August 03, 2010, 03:40:33 AM »
Ok, clowns! Hitch up your giddy. The circus is leaving town.

Let us begin:
Outside of all your vanities, careers, and views the basic premise is this:
One or more Oscillators. If you would like to use 1 then you have to have the correct frequency that matches the atomic structure and configuration of your transmitter and this is definately in need of great discipline of any selected field, guaranteed. Mechanically speaking. We have done this or tried. You can even use 1 frequency to accomodate the use of two frequencies. I refer to the configurations of two dissimilar materials. Mine have been steel and copper, copper and iron. One presents an conductive difference to the other. You therefore get the 2 phased action of 1 frequency working on 2 materials or impedances.
With a Tesla coil we have 2 coils tuned together in some timing aspect. 1 frequency? Well yes but when you consider the highspeed, broadband output the coils produce interaction.

Now Lets look at 2 or more frequencies:
This takes less effort in configuration or control mechanically but more control in the phasing or timing. Why yes, we all have seen this too.
Hit a target with 2 or more frequencies and you will get interaction. Can you say Hutchison? Why are his tests so random? Because he doesn't have the timing correct. But it does get there. No?

So instead of banging a fet or pulsing just correct or squeezing physics on your bench. Give it up! Why not try banging 2 or more fets! Come on, it works. Fry your ass in the experiment too. Or why not try cmos switching(ooh low current) with 3 channels of close frequencies against copper coils or close configuration. Come on. You know you want to try it. Why do I say this? Lets make a seperation here and I want the reader to use this as a yardstick. In all the posting what doth the poster reveal? Physics? Tuning? Transmission and reception? Why yes. The emphasis is on the number of frequencies applied. Always! If you want to use 1 then you have a choice of the correct physics(ouch that sucks), spark gap or NST.
Now in the pulsing we can use low voltage 5 - 48 voltas square wave or if you want to use sines the HV is needed. Low voltage sine takes extreme configuration. The HV square wave will and I repeat will burn you or knock you on your ass. What is in between? You fry equipment. The square wave gives us the timing we need by the rise and fall. That is why low frequencies work. Sines on the other hand have to achieve this function in other ways.

There is nothing else to try outside these aforementioned boundaries.

'Nuff sed?

Arguments, Please? I welcome them. They will be comprised of pontifications or bloat.

Now go back to you benches and work with two or more frequencies(can you say ECD?). With the fustration of all the years past you have accumulated vast amounts of effort to understand and see the experience.

Most of us don't have the experience or setup for one frequency. After all the SM17 is 2... 556s are 2. The ECD is 2. THE GK4 is 3. Didn't SM say 'Bang on'? Hmmm...

You can spend your time on 1 frequency and mysterious configurations, or HV/sparkgap simplistic noise, or multiple frequencies.

There I have stated what was not said before but now it becomes very apparent.

--gk. I gotta go and burn the soapbox for fuel.

p.s. So instead of competing with the laws of physics let the frequencies do the work for you. Any 2 coils next to each other each with its own frequency. This is the biggest hint there is.

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« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 04:02:06 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #601 on: August 03, 2010, 03:47:36 AM »
So, you are afraid to get yor hands dirty.  Probably have never wound a single coil in your entire life.  You go around posting endless rants about the work of others and your interpretations of it, but never do any work yourself.  You stated several times that you can build a working TPU if provided with $25K for a lab.  If you know so much about the TPU's then maybe you can tell us how they are wound.  They are not all the same.

Have you ever built anything that works?  Like a model or birdhouse?  I just want to know if you can follow directions.

Read my posts i disclosed everything about the TPU years ago not seen anything to make me think i made a mistake. In fact everyone else getting closer and closer to my ideas... Maybe people are waking up perhaps the TPU coming soon:)

I made a model airplane once.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #602 on: August 03, 2010, 05:12:47 AM »
I've made a mistake and thought some of the individuals in this thread were getting the RE effect, but were stuck at how to convert it to current.  I see this thread is just for tossing ideas around and winding pretty coils.  You are no further along now then when you first started.  Have fun.



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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #603 on: August 03, 2010, 05:36:33 AM »
BS @SG16,
The GK4 does produces RE. You show me your config and tell us all how to safely convert it.
OBTW I got coil what you got?. Builds, tests, equipment? Or just posts. C'mon anti up.
Just how many ways are there to skin a cat? Or was this a test? Air coils have copper ya know? Not just posts.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #604 on: August 03, 2010, 01:39:22 PM »
Take a wound rotor induction motor and lock the rotor.  Put 3 single phase loads in the lines to reduce the locked rotor currents so that they just saturate the stator steel.  Replace the resistor bank with a capacitor bank tuned to the inductance of the rotor coils.  Leave some resitive device like an inverter or converter in the rotor tanks.  Now you have a Tesla rotating field transformer.  Running 3 single phase loads in the primary and 3 tuned tank circuits in the secondary.  The currents in a rotor when an induction motor is working sweep across the stator conductors and generate a counter emf to the line.  When the rotor is locked this is not the case.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #605 on: August 03, 2010, 03:09:08 PM »
Common guys, cool it for a second will y'a.

This SM TPU 1/2R-1/2F has gotten all of you jumpy as hell (me included) and it won't help if we start attacking each other.

Guys are talking that RE=RF. So is that Radiant Energy = Radio Frequency. If it is, then RF is produced ultimately with a transmitter. A transmitter is usually one wire or structure. This explains one thing about the videos I made with the one wire pulsing of coils. It would travel right up to my TV a good 5-6 feet away and it is able or strong enough to modify the TV screen that is being controlled full tilt by the TV circuitry. So it has to be rather powerful stuff. I imagine the effect is on the TV yoke itself since it is also a good sized coil. So one has to find a way to contain it.

So, please quite with all the mysteries. If you have a way to contain RE, just spell it out and don't ask guys here to read through 1000 pages of guacamole.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #606 on: August 03, 2010, 04:39:09 PM »
Hello all,

Im on a vacation and from time to time Im looking for your TPU results but I see a lot of useless bla bla...

So, first I have to say that you can extract usefull energy from magnets. Like SM told us but its my little secret and not related to a TPU.

2. A time ago I got 100m of a tinned cable and as Im curious as always, I pulsed this cable with 2 frequencies. The vibration was sooo strong that the spool "danced" on my workbench. I used 2 high frequencies,in kHz.
@GK is right when he wrote that this effect is because of 2 metals, in my case copper and tin.

Still on vacation.

Otto

PS: ever tried to pulse a oridinary piece of metal to get "something useful out of this metal? Just an idea.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #607 on: August 03, 2010, 06:02:57 PM »
JDO300 was the first to see the bimetal configuration. He surmised the open tpu wide wire wrap was copper and iron bifilar.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #608 on: August 03, 2010, 07:23:02 PM »
I make this comparison.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #609 on: August 03, 2010, 08:28:42 PM »
 ;)



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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #610 on: August 03, 2010, 09:21:28 PM »
First devices also had coils turned on the side.

« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 10:46:19 PM by sigma16 »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #611 on: August 03, 2010, 10:17:06 PM »
Forget conventional electromagnetics.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 10:45:36 PM by sigma16 »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #612 on: August 03, 2010, 10:41:13 PM »
You have to get the RE effect to go around with the coil.  This induces the other coils and the capacitor.  "How" doesn't matter.  Forget conventional electromagnetics.

How do you convert RE into current ? Coils at 90 degrees ?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #613 on: August 03, 2010, 10:54:22 PM »
The metal terminals will suck it up. The capacitor always looks empty. Draw off what you need. That is why a diode looks like a piece of wire both ways. The RE is fast and the capacitor responds.
Remember Tesla's doorknobs?
Also on Don Smith's PVC tube device the Capacitor charge bars face the coil.

How do you convert RE into current ? Coils at 90 degrees ?
« Last Edit: August 03, 2010, 11:25:41 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #614 on: August 04, 2010, 06:33:30 AM »
  Interesting concept.  Put a big old antennae and extend the capacitor plate into the atmosphere.  A closed loop coupled to an open loop and see what pops in.  The positive plate of a capacitor weighs less than the negative plate.  When your capacitor is massive like a bifilar wound coil pumped empty it moves.  Now you have a moving conductor and all you need is a stationary magnetic field.  All the while you are charging up your capacitor which will get you an echo when you discharge it into a coil of high self inductance.  Tesla was alternately charging and discharging tons and tons of metal.  He was alternately making them heavier and lighter.  A gravity oscillator,
Two capacitor plates hanging on a string attached to a pulley.  As each plate become alternately charged the lighter one goes up the heavier one goes down.  Proper tuning and you can lengthen the stroke.  Buildup inertia in the system whatever.