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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #570 on: August 02, 2010, 07:41:46 PM »
Did anyone looked at the type of waves the jt is outputting from the secondary ?

I remember Jeanna making a Hairpin circuit , at lower voltages and no spark gap ...

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #571 on: August 02, 2010, 08:25:03 PM »
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@ Bolt,   The motor runs ICE cold sometimes frost will cover the case due to RE. YES i have seen this myself not ice as some have under critical conditions but covered in condensation and cold to touch.

If you want more examples let me know I  can show many many RE experiments.

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Thank you for the SUPER GOOD posts about RE stories, especially about Bob Boyce & Roto Verters.  Per your offer above to post more, please post more RE related stories.

Well the Truth stands on its own merits and those that wish to listen and learn will be enlightened and im still learning so i listen. The rest..well im not here to change those with their heads stuck up their ass. LOL

 Its a shame it looks like the Chinese are going to get an SS OU device very soon. Can you imagine the power they will have over the rest of the world when the stick two fingers up at the US and no more need for oil?? (not for energy anyway) The rest of us still living in the dark ages.

Meanwhile, here are 2 stories I find very interesting:



Ron told me that when he was running his electric car his neighbors car had a bad battery and he removed one from his electric car and gave it to them. the alternator on the neighbors car went up in smoke after an hour of driving.  it was more than likely running at full field trying to charge the battery.

We did not use a motor and i believe that is the secret to getting it to self charge. Ron told me he ran his car for months without charging the batteries.

You talking about Ron Brandt?? Sounds like it.

He also told me a strange story that after running the car for a few hours when setting at a stop light the other cars around him all stopped running.  he called it some sort of energy field he thought it was creating. he also told me that his neighbor could not get out of her mobile home one day when he had the motor running and the car in idle for a few hours in is driveway, she yelled for help and when he went to help her it was like walking through air as thick as sand and it took almost all his energy to get to her.  After that he stopped the project to think about what was happening.

I feel like that some mornings when i try to get out of bed LOL

I know a bit about this stuff but 99.99% of people here cant even grasp basic RE capture let alone the other "features" that come with it.  He must have gone over 100KVAR which creates time anomaly which actually spreads out like a very slow moving pond ripples. The warning signs are a purple haze starts around the device and batteries. It gets bigger and you don't really want to be inside it.:)

 When one starts messing with RE you enter a dimension where everything begins to slow down including light itself and gravity. It ISNT really but when he tried walking he was not actually in this 3D anymore. If someone was to watch him from outside some distance away he would be speed-ed up and running at much higher then normal speed but for him everything was condensed as a time compression wave.  The 2 mins of his activity to get out of the car and get to her door was energy compression where both time and gravity were compressed from 20 mins to 2 mins. To him everything would have felt REALLY slow and heavy as hell in his time he would have struggled and it took him 20 mins of his time to reach her.  No wonder he stopped his experiments think i would too. Leaving his car running for hours would have built up a nice portal.

This is the basis of UFO. Due to the RE propulsion systems inside they are not operating in our dimension. When they make a right hand turn if you are on board the turn is really slow like a boat. Out side the turn is made 90 degrees at 10,000 MPH.  Time and gravity are only relative.

This goes back to Philadelphia experiment where people were teleported yards away and their own body mass actually became part of the local time and physical fabric. Arms and legs were embedded in the ships steel hull.

The TPU is not just a free energy device its MUCH MUCH more to do with anti gravity and time compression. I don't disbelieve SM when he said all hell will break if it falls in the wrong hands and they know how to invoke some more features.

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Imagine an electric machine having no electrical input itself and which, when started on no load by a drive motor and brought up to speed (3250 rpm), thereafter runs steadily at that speed with the motor drawing a little extra input power with a time delay rate of about two minutes.

The machine rotor has a mass of 800 gm and at that speed its kinetic energy together with that of the drive motor is no more than 15 joules, contrasting with the excess energy of 300 joules needed to satisfy the anomalous power surge [to spin up from rest].

Imagine further that when the motor, after running five minutes or more, is switched off and the machine is stopped, you can restart it in the same or opposite direction and find that it now has a memory in the sense that it will not now ask for that 300 joules of excess input. 30 joules will suffice provided that the time lapse between starting and restarting is no more than a minute or so.

This is not a transient heating phenomenon. At all times the bearing housings feel cool and any heating in the drive motor would imply an increase of resistance and a build-up of power to a higher steady state condition.

Yes because the motor was running in zero point resonance and collecting RE. It creates a real depression very much like a tornado funnel. 3 phase motors will do this very easy as they create a rotational magnetic field under the right conditions.

The experimental evidence is that there is something spinning of an ethereal nature co-extensive with the machine rotor. That 'something' has an effective mass density 20 times that of the rotor, but it is something that can spin independently and takes several minutes to decay, whereas the motor comes to rest in a few seconds.

Two machines of different rotor size and composition reveal the phenomenon and tests indicate variations with time of day and compass orientation of the spin axis. One machine, the one incorporating weaker magnets, showed evidence of gaining strength magnetically, as the tests were repeated over several days.

I know someone that runs his house on OU device but he says he has to keep it low power. Already magnetic standing scaler wave has expanded from his house some 300 yards.  The more you  ask for the more you get there is no limit to the energy on tap and yes it does have a memory effect.:)

No its not the X-Files :)

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #572 on: August 02, 2010, 08:51:18 PM »
@poynt99,

I'm posting this here because I found out by chance that you're participating in this thread. I was very impressed by your modeling of eOrbo E-t curves but I wasn't able to participate in the discussion because I'm banned from that forum. Recently I had carried out some experiments which I posted in the Steorn thread here and finally I was able to pinpoint the real cause of the OU in electrical systems. At that, it was found that OU is inherent in the electrical phenomena under certain conditions. Same thing was established regarding the so-called 'cold fusion' in electrochemical systems. These two findings, together with the conclusive determination that the magnetic propulsor produces excess energy are the firm foundation to conclusively reject, based on rigorous scientific basis, the universality of the principle of energy conservation. We've been discussing this with some very worthy individuals such as @Omega_0, @teslaalset, @gyulasun, @broli etc. but I always felt your presence in these discussion was sorely missed. Now, I see the efforts by Rosemary Ainslie, efforts I haven't been aware of, as well as the studies in this thread and several other important threads. It seems to me all these efforts should be consolidated so that we can sift the wheat from the chaff and have all these efforts finally set on a proper scientific basis with the aim to become part of mainstream science. I'd be much interested in hearing your take on that.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #573 on: August 02, 2010, 09:02:14 PM »
@poynt99,

I'm posting this here because I found out by chance that you're participating in this thread. I was very impressed by your modeling of eOrbo E-t curves but I wasn't able to participate in the discussion because I'm banned from that forum. Recently I had carried out some experiments which I posted in the Steorn thread here and finally I was able to pinpoint the real cause of the OU in electrical systems. At that, it was found that OU is inherent in the electrical phenomena under certain conditions. Same thing was established regarding the so-called 'cold fusion' in electrochemical systems. These two findings, together with the conclusive determination that the magnetic propulsor produces excess energy are the firm foundation to conclusively reject, based on rigorous scientific basis, the universality of the principle of energy conservation. We've been discussing this with some very worthy individuals such as @Omega_0, @teslaalset, @gyulasun, @broli etc. but I always felt your presence in these discussion was sorely missed. Now, I see the efforts by Rosemary Ainslie, efforts I haven't been aware of, as well as the studies in this thread and several other important threads. It seems to me all these efforts should be consolidated so that we can sift the wheat from the chaff and have all these efforts finally set on a proper scientific basis with the aim to become part of mainstream science. I'd be much interested in hearing your take on that.

"At that, it was found that OU is inherent in the electrical phenomena under certain conditions. Same thing was established regarding the so-called 'cold fusion' in electrochemical systems."

Well i been trying to say this for years but you are wasting your time here its like talking to the Muppet Show! Hahaha. 


If you want the conditions i make it really condensed version.

OU = RF under RLC. Gain is 161.8% stochastic. You only need to cover entropy loss to see the gains and don't be greedy there is plenty left for looping:)


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« Reply #574 on: August 02, 2010, 09:17:48 PM »
Bolt,

Everything you posted is "hearsay".  No valid tests.  No proof.  To make matters even worse, most of the people with a device they can not explain, have no freakin' idea how it works, make eronious measurments, and saturate the entire realm of alternative energy with their BS.  You are correct that greed factors in, but so does lack of understanding.  At least the men that made the MRA had the sense to have it tested and it was invalidated by Puthoff's group.  Where is the VTA now?  What about Grey's tube?  Moray's tube? Let's not leave out Bearden's MEG, Gunderson's ring, and Thane Heins' motor.  If RE is so easy then then there should be new devices all around us, but they aren't because no one that understands it is talking about it.  Everyone who is talking about it is repeating all the BS that everyone else already thought up to sell videos, books, and worthless plans.

Put a magnet in an RE field like I told wattsup to do and you will quickly find out that you don't know squat.

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« Reply #575 on: August 02, 2010, 09:21:03 PM »
"At that, it was found that OU is inherent in the electrical phenomena under certain conditions. Same thing was established regarding the so-called 'cold fusion' in electrochemical systems."

Well i been trying to say this for years but you are wasting your time here its like talking to the Muppet Show! Hahaha. 


If you want the conditions i make it really condensed version.

OU = RF under RLC. Gain is 161.8% stochastic. You only need to cover entropy loss to see the gains and don't be greedy there is plenty left for looping:)

The gain can easily be over 1:1000

You should know that Mr. "RE" Xpert

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #576 on: August 02, 2010, 09:31:56 PM »
"At that, it was found that OU is inherent in the electrical phenomena under certain conditions. Same thing was established regarding the so-called 'cold fusion' in electrochemical systems."

Well i been trying to say this for years but you are wasting your time here its like talking to the Muppet Show! Hahaha. 


If you want the conditions i make it really condensed version.

OU = RF under RLC. Gain is 161.8% stochastic. You only need to cover entropy loss to see the gains and don't be greedy there is plenty left for looping:)

That's interesting. Do you have anything written that sums up the idea?

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« Reply #577 on: August 02, 2010, 09:35:35 PM »
@sigma16,

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If RE is so easy then then there should be new devices all around us, but they aren't because no one that understands it is talking about it.

This isn't a scientific argument.

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« Reply #578 on: August 02, 2010, 10:25:35 PM »
@sigma16,

This isn't a scientific argument.

Is there a point to the comments you have selected to comment on?

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« Reply #579 on: August 02, 2010, 10:50:56 PM »
@sigma16,

If you want to see the point I'm making, read the whole citation:

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If RE is so easy then then there should be new devices all around us, but they aren't because no one that understands it is talking about it.

The fact that there are no new devices around us isn't a scientific argument proving that the phenomenon such devices are supposed to be based on is not a real phenomenon. There are no devices around us based on Compton effect or Davisson-Germer effect to name a few and yet these are real phenomena. Utilitarianism, the need to see devices in stores or have them at home to cut your utility bills, can never qualify as a scientific argument serving to prove as to whether or not a phenomenon is real.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #580 on: August 02, 2010, 11:04:55 PM »
Hi Sparks,

You might like the open source solar vehicles on this site.
http://www.solarvehicles.org/

The designer, Jeff Dekzty, has great enthusiasm for his designs.

WTF?
http://biomod.multiply.com/photos/album/131/Mag_Amp_Gen_I_-_IV

WTF again but in video?
http://biomod.multiply.com/video/item/17/Mag_Amp_Gen_W1


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« Reply #581 on: August 02, 2010, 11:13:57 PM »
@sigma16,

If you want to see the point I'm making, read the whole citation:

The fact that there are no new devices around us isn't a scientific argument proving that the phenomenon such devices are supposed to be based on is not a real phenomenon. There are no devices around us based on Compton effect or Davisson-Germer effect to name a few and yet these are real phenomena. Utilitarianism, the need to see devices in stores or have them at home to cut your utility bills, can never qualify as a scientific argument serving to prove as to whether or not a phenomenon is real.

Omnibus it doesn't matter what you provide as citation they just ignore anything of value just because its beyond their comprehension. I laid out several RE OU experiments using off the shelf devices but it means nothing. They wont believe it till its on the shelf in Walmart.

I personally know of looped free running motors and i seen enough myself to know Radiant energy is a real as water and air. Its not the lack of information that is the problem its mindset and the ability for those that can be bothered to actually try for themselves basic experiments. I already posted plenty.

I see you mentioned chemical OU reactions alike endothermic. Maybe you like to look into Atomic Hydrogen as cold fusion process where diatomic H2 is "lifted" by HV charge to a highly reactive state of hydrogen. When its allowed to "burn" in the absence of oxygen it decomposes back to diatomic H2 and releases an enormous amount of energy.  The process is >COP 15

The H2 is then simply looped through scrubbers reused as closed loop gas system like a freezer. However the process is very much open loop process for ambient energy extraction.

There is no need to make electrolysis for cars and make fresh HHO.  H2 is loop-able and so a few liters of gas will last for thousands of miles.

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« Reply #582 on: August 02, 2010, 11:42:54 PM »
@sigma16,

If you want to see the point I'm making, read the whole citation:

The fact that there are no new devices around us isn't a scientific argument proving that the phenomenon such devices are supposed to be based on is not a real phenomenon. There are no devices around us based on Compton effect or Davisson-Germer effect to name a few and yet these are real phenomena. Utilitarianism, the need to see devices in stores or have them at home to cut your utility bills, can never qualify as a scientific argument serving to prove as to whether or not a phenomenon is real.

You misinterpreted my statement because you felt like jumping into the middle of the fray without bothering the read the entire exchange.  I know it is real, and on that point, bolt and I agree.

What is the Davisson-Germer "effect"?  They performed an experiment that showed the wave nature of electrons. 


I laid out several RE OU experiments using off the shelf devices but it means nothing.

Describe one of these experiments.

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« Reply #583 on: August 02, 2010, 11:48:08 PM »
@Trastos,
This looks like BEMF harvesting using a magamp type pickups.
I emailed the guy for the opensource schematic. We'll see if he responds.

@All,
For what it is worth I am reading all this and then pursuing the previous posts mentioned.

I dare not say more for fear of becoming techno-chibble. Goes good with beer.

Let me throw this in as a question. When I did the three frequency audio test Bolt laid out and when the house was rocking I could feel the harmonic waves sloshing back and forth. I interpreted this as the same fedback loop that the rotovertor feels but in a different media. Could this be right? With this 3 freq device I can feel jumbling going on in the body which leads to sickness. If I do this in magnetic fields is this the quantum pressure that leads to RE?


WTF?
http://biomod.multiply.com/photos/album/131/Mag_Amp_Gen_I_-_IV

WTF again but in video?
http://biomod.multiply.com/video/item/17/Mag_Amp_Gen_W1

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« Reply #584 on: August 02, 2010, 11:51:33 PM »
@bolt,

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I personally know of looped free running motors

Who's done that? Care to post a link? Also, that business with the HV H2, where's the evidence?