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wattsup

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #180 on: April 06, 2010, 12:24:25 AM »
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Here is my last (most probably) video in the series Pulsing coils and lighting LEDS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5zXe_iJzXc

I have noticed more and more that guys are using pick up coils with an led to see the energy moving around their devices. That is very great because this energy is very difficult to imagine using a scope and probe, and in many instances, the fact that the probe is applied changes the effect. Just use an led/coil near your device, light up the LED and then try to put a scope probe on it and see what happens.

There are many more effects I have found while doing these tests but in general, what I have shown is the basis.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #181 on: April 07, 2010, 07:44:54 AM »
@Hi all

First of all @GK, I am sorry for not responding to your post and to your last build. I kind of had my head in one direction these days.

OK, here is my Video No. 7. I had to cut it up cause the master was too long for YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2thrf3kq8-E

I think I now know how SMs tpus worked.

Very simple indeed.

First the battery is used but only open ended. Next the pulse frequency is used but only open ended. Then the exchange between that and the Earths field charges an isolated pick up coil that is not open ended. The battery will never go down. The frequency pulse is only on one side, goes through to the other through the battery to the other side. Need more juice, you will need a bigger or more batteries to provide the greater north and south field biases. That's why he raised the LTPU center plate. He had batteries but they did not drain. Or if they did drain, it was taking so long that no battery known could do this, so he won the deal.

He said the 6TPU weighed 1.5 pounds. Hmmmmmm, That much wire would do the 120 volt thing.

It does not really matter what you build. if you use a closed system, you will be stuck to all the conservation of energy laws. But if you go open ended, what law will slam it down. Don't know yet but.............

After the above video, I made connections to a second coil via the free pulse generator ground lead and the free battery positive both going open ended just like the coil that's one the battery negative and pulse positive in the video, again they are open ended, and now............ the second coil is lighting up more LEDS. Amps on the pulse generator did not go up........... WTF man.

I will make a Video 8 but with Video 7, guys should understand the implications of this easily. I can only hope.

Monopoles do exist. You have two of them on each battery, inductor, capacitor, etc. We are the ones that are so bent on shorting them to get some work done.
Plus we have one major field whooshing around our buts day in and day out.

I think now that SMs vacuum tube analogy was to depict an open ended system. There is a space between the anode and the cathode. A vacuum tube is in fact a concentrated pinpointing on an open ended system. Pulse one side, bias the other and juice starts flowing.

Ottos ECD. He used some serious juice to pulse them. Not like my furty Pulse Generator in mA and uA. I think one day he started it and one of the leads was not connected making it open ended. The power supply ground did the same thing on one side as how it is being used it in the video. He hit the frequency from the other side and bingo, Bright's your Uncle. lol

Remember the small coils I wound on the coil ends shown at 2 minutes in Video6? Ottos' CC's did the same thing but even more concentrated, pin point like in three vectors. Man oh Man. I will have to dust off my ECD build..

I will have to make a diagram to explain it but in general.

Use a pair of wires to wind a first coil.
Battery negative on one wire.
Pulse positive on the other wire.

Use a pair of wires to wind a second coil.
Battery positive on one wire.
Pulse negative on the other wire.

Or, regardless of what you build, find the coupling wires and do the same thing. Put one on one and the other on the other. Pulse around and have fun.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #182 on: April 07, 2010, 10:03:26 AM »
Hello all,

@wattsup

nice videos!!

Your idea is something like to split a TPU into a positive and a negative pulsating "system"?? Top "half" of the TPU would be positive and the bottom negative pulsed??

Can you post a schematic for us so we can easier understand what you did in the last video?

Otto

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #183 on: April 07, 2010, 10:59:24 AM »
wattsup,

I'm quite tired and not really understand what you explaining but I had surprising effect just with flyback or car ignition coil with attached extra coil.Is that what you are  about ?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #184 on: April 07, 2010, 11:06:07 AM »
hello all
@wattsup
nice idea.actually the open system is not so open couse the conductor pairs are actually amounting to a condenser so you get a nice hidden tank circuit( you have the coil and the "hidden" capacitor).it seems that you're still going to get to the transmission line theory in the end.i had also proposed allmost the same to some members over pm.keep up the good work :)
cheers,
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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #185 on: April 07, 2010, 12:32:36 PM »
@wattsup
I hope you don't mind these thoughts on your TPU video....

I think your setup is acting as an antenna from the 17.8MHZ hot feed side (the shielded coaxial outside always remains at ground potential anyhow) unless poorly matched. The signal is capacitively coupled via your windings around the conductor it gives the benefit of raising the generator feed impedance so not much capacitance required. As the TPU coil you wound is likely a poor match VSWR wise to the feed impedance at 17.8Mhz, the travelling forward and reflected signals are summing producing enough of a high voltage antinode for you to pick it up in a shorted turn loop antenna and rectifying it via the polarized LED. To give the illumination.

Energy dissipated in LED vs generator feed power wise it's hard to comment without first measuring the forward & reflected power with some sort of directional coupler or slotted line VSWR setup .

Gerry

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #186 on: April 07, 2010, 03:25:29 PM »
Hello all,
@wattsup
nice videos!!
Your idea is something like to split a TPU into a positive and a negative pulsating "system"?? Top "half" of the TPU would be positive and the bottom negative pulsed??
Can you post a schematic for us so we can easier understand what you did in the last video?
Otto

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You have understood it well. Then the second wire on top half would then receive the negative bias from the battery and the second wire on the bottom half would receive the positive bias from the battery. The circuit is never closed. You do not have to because between them is the Earth's magnetic field all the time.

The good part is the battery end never goes down because they are only providing a bias and the pulsing end is never destructive because the circuit is never closed, hence amperage is at a minimum. You just have to find the right frequency whic is definitely not the resonant frequency but slightly off.

Resonance is like a fine liquid electricity that fills the coil with a steady non-changing EM field. It just oscillated at a very fine way. You need the turbulence of being off the resonant frequency. The pick up coils don't like resonance but they love turbulence.

In the FTPU video SM says 5k hertz but that is bullshit. Nothing will happen in there at such low frequency because the TPU is so small with few windings. Based on my tests with different coils, etc, he is more like 5 mega hertz but he would never say that because he was afraid of getting his ass whipped by Mr. Big.

I will make a diagram. Tonight I will make the FTPU build with a center toroid included and you will see the voltage rise to 60 volts because the toroid core will act like a tank. lol

My current build is simple to replicate and you do not need the exact coil turns, etc.

No one mentioned in the video about the scope shots. I indicated the probes were at 10x (hello) and the Volt/Div. 5 volts at Time/Div. 1uS. The output was showing the waveform on 6 divisions. 6 x 5 x 10 = 300 volts @ 1uS. lol

The battery consumes nothing and the pulse is 16.5 volts at a few micro amperes.

How clear can that be????????????

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #187 on: April 07, 2010, 04:03:32 PM »
We can have two currents in coil , right ? Each one related to its power source.
isn't that like vacuum tube ? like something Steven Mark said ?
do you see the difference when both are abruptly removed ? ;D

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #188 on: April 07, 2010, 04:50:57 PM »
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@otto

You have understood it well. Then the second wire on top half would then receive the negative bias from the battery and the second wire on the bottom half would receive the positive bias from the battery. The circuit is never closed. You do not have to because between them is the Earth's magnetic field all the time.

The good part is the battery end never goes down because they are only providing a bias and the pulsing end is never destructive because the circuit is never closed, hence amperage is at a minimum. You just have to find the right frequency whic is definitely not the resonant frequency but slightly off.

Resonance is like a fine liquid electricity that fills the coil with a steady non-changing EM field. It just oscillated at a very fine way. You need the turbulence of being off the resonant frequency. The pick up coils don't like resonance but they love turbulence.

In the FTPU video SM says 5k hertz but that is bullshit. Nothing will happen in there at such low frequency because the TPU is so small with few windings. Based on my tests with different coils, etc, he is more like 5 mega hertz but he would never say that because he was afraid of getting his ass whipped by Mr. Big.

I will make a diagram. Tonight I will make the FTPU build with a center toroid included and you will see the voltage rise to 60 volts because the toroid core will act like a tank. lol

My current build is simple to replicate and you do not need the exact coil turns, etc.

No one mentioned in the video about the scope shots. I indicated the probes were at 10x (hello) and the Volt/Div. 5 volts at Time/Div. 1uS. The output was showing the waveform on 6 divisions. 6 x 5 x 10 = 300 volts @ 1uS. lol

The battery consumes nothing and the pulse is 16.5 volts at a few micro amperes.

How clear can that be????????????
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Wattsup this is amazing I cant wait to see your next vid!  I want to replicate sooo bad!  I have been testing pulsing coils and I can confirm most of what you said!

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #189 on: April 07, 2010, 05:35:13 PM »
@forest

Read my second post above. I just talked about the Tube and SM.

"do you see the difference when both are abruptly removed ? "
Don't know what you mean.

@All

There a billions of frequencies out there. Many will find their right place. There is even a frequency that makes you tick. Your own frequency. But, most are never used or required. You can build a circuit with 10 totally diffierent coils all in series, and out of the billions of frequencies, you will find one that will resonate them all together. It is the law of infinite possibilities. I can only imagine in the higher mega hertz or even giga hertz range what we can find.

I think that is what Leedskalnin was doing. He found the resonance frequency for the rocks he was lifting. Resonance maybe makes them lighter. I am just curious if the site also had ground achors here and there because if he was lifting one rock, others around it would have lifted also and would have to be achored. Sounds crazy but those big chains were not enough to pull a huge rock but they are perfect to hold it down.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #190 on: April 07, 2010, 05:39:43 PM »
when they are removed exactly at the same moment the result is additive ?  ::)
one of SM tips is saying that.... and I think it's true just that :o

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #191 on: April 07, 2010, 07:10:53 PM »
Well this is definately very, very cool.

I like the 90 degree winding in Video #7 ;)
The two wrappings with the difference of lack of insulation on one could cause just delay one would need.


Just read this...
« Last Edit: April 07, 2010, 10:44:47 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #192 on: April 07, 2010, 08:01:37 PM »
when they are removed exactly at the same moment the result is additive ?  ::)
one of SM tips is saying that.... and I think it's true just that :o

@forest

OK, now I get your question and it is very good. Yes, SM mentioned what would happen if you stop the pulse before it reaches the end of the wire - Tesla style. Removing both ends of the wire at the same time is one thing, but in the open ended scheme, all you need is one side being pulsed because the other side is always open, hence every time the pulse goes off, it is both ends that are off. lol

To stop the pulse before it gets to the end of the wire, the end cannot be connected otherwise there is no end. Exactly as being done in the video.

Very good point. Thanks.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #193 on: April 07, 2010, 09:24:07 PM »
wattsup

how about bias required to create magnetic field ?
if you have in coil which is open from one side  strong magnetic field (DC bias) and you make a pulse from other source and you find a way to abruptly disconnect both sources in the same moment having coil open from both ends then you should expect something extraordinary because energy cannot return to sources

SM said about cold cathode biased by low volts big amps and pulsed by HV low amps, two power sources suddenly looks like one of bigger power on immediate collapse
amps X volts may be not reactive ???? :o I really don't know but be careful ::)

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #194 on: April 08, 2010, 05:21:49 AM »
@stefan

Who the hell is this turkey brain called @wozlzl. Registered today, made 14 posts all almost the same thing. I suggest you ban him today and break a record. The least amount of days before being banned. lol