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Author Topic: Understanding electricity in the TPU.  (Read 361676 times)

innovation_station

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2009, 06:10:13 PM »
now what about my 808  ;D ;) 

it has 2 freqs 2 phases of 3 channels each of pnp and npn in sync...

it has to phases so it flip flops FOREVER .. :P :)  imagine ...


now apply what i just told you about what im doing on plannet earth right now..

how about 71 species above .. human heads ...  :) 

808 is BASIC  THE GOLD RING ... A LIGHT YEAR BEOND ...

btw 12 lower are devided from upper ... so when i give this to you you are contained ...  we know where you all are ..  your graduateing ... in order for this go beond ...  ya better quit fighting ...

why did we re incarnate back here ... i just answered you ...  lower 12 above humans are turned off ... no other way to come back in ...

enjoy your most wonderfull gift ... life ..  live it with love!

thank you ...   

i will say this this goes way beond human comprehenction ...

it may be that some harmonics come from the crystal in the diodes...   how ever ...  dont think i had any on those scope shots ...

YOU DO REALIZE RESONANCE ONLY CREATES THE DOOR ... LOL  YOU STILL HAVE TO OPEN AND CLOSE IT ...
y mess around with batteries ...  WHEN THERE UBC'S ULTRA BOOST CAPS ..AKA... ALIEN CAPS...  LOL


well now ya know ...   can you reinstate...  my posting privilages....   ?

anyhow now when  you finally get it ... 0 pattends are gained ...

to my knowalage ... TESLA never built this exact such device ...  so i will call it the IST H.T

I EXPLAIN MY HARMONIC TRANSFORMER DESIGN   and im set to read only ...  hummmmmmm   
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 01:32:03 AM by innovation_station »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2009, 06:21:36 PM »
You will find something important here : http://www.dranetz-bmi.com/pdf/harmonicspart3.pdf

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2009, 08:06:58 PM »
@wattsup

Would this secondary pulse be in the same wire or a overlying wire wound in the same direction but on top of the constant DC wire?

I would say all on the same wire because you do not want to rely on any coupling method. You maintain a major stressor on the wire (that is the DC) on the two turn ring. That ring will permeate a field around it that will cover the outer wound control coil simply because of proximity. Now pulse a degaussing frequency into the same ring that has dc on it so the electrons flip back to normal at on, and swing a kick at off.

So instead of switching the main DC line, you maintain a steady DC line and cause a degauss action on it. The DC line always stayed at full potential and does not need to be switched. By doing so, you cause an action on a bigger potential with a smaller potential at the proper frequency.

An example is if you are trying to push a damaged truck up a hill by pushing it in small increments. You can stay behind the truck and push it in small pushes just enough needed to move it one foot at a time up the hill, but each time, you will have to bring your push source back to zero, wait, then start it again, push the truck up higher, then stop again, etc. Or you can put a steady motive force behind it and hop in the driver cab and simply work the brakes. Each time you let go of the brake, you are again at full motive push force, not having to go from zero onwards.

This is only an attempt to "think out of the box".
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 08:34:03 PM by wattsup »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2009, 08:58:01 PM »
Thank you for dumbing it down for me this makes sence.  This is a very interesting idea and seems easy to test!  Do you have a TPU or something similar to test it on?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2009, 10:51:23 PM »
Thank you for dumbing it down for me this makes sence.  This is a very interesting idea and seems easy to test!  Do you have a TPU or something similar to test it on?

Well I am at work presently but setting this up is very easy so I will try out the idea and let you guys know more about it. Actually I have several FTPU builds now to test out different ideas.

If @Grumpy was around, he would like to know that I tested a toroid speaker magnet with two coils wound over it during the weekend, as per his suggestion. Nothing conclusive yet but some very interesting buzzing sounds, no coil to coil coupling though. Were the hell is @Grumpy and now @Poynt99. WTF is happening on this forum. Guys with years of membership being banned. Wow, will I be next?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2009, 11:39:41 PM »
Well I am at work presently but setting this up is very easy so I will try out the idea and let you guys know more about it. Actually I have several FTPU builds now to test out different ideas.

If @Grumpy was around, he would like to know that I tested a toroid speaker magnet with two coils wound over it during the weekend, as per his suggestion. Nothing conclusive yet but some very interesting buzzing sounds, no coil to coil coupling though. Were the hell is @Grumpy and now @Poynt99. WTF is happening on this forum. Guys with years of membership being banned. Wow, will I be next?

Yucca is making a new forum for people that want to learn/teach/test ect...you should ask!

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2009, 11:50:13 PM »
Screw that Mr opinion grumpy guy .

@ Least the other peeps are trying stuff , even sptrue has a youtube page and a workbench lol .

Nobody can talk smack without a youtube page and a  workbench .

stprue

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2009, 11:52:15 PM »
Dankie

I just have to laugh at that one ;D


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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2009, 12:28:45 AM »
They come back as newbie lurkers to watch and make a different presentation.

Well I am at work presently but setting this up is very easy so I will try out the idea and let you guys know more about it. Actually I have several FTPU builds now to test out different ideas.

If @Grumpy was around, he would like to know that I tested a toroid speaker magnet with two coils wound over it during the weekend, as per his suggestion. Nothing conclusive yet but some very interesting buzzing sounds, no coil to coil coupling though. Were the hell is @Grumpy and now @Poynt99. WTF is happening on this forum. Guys with years of membership being banned. Wow, will I be next?

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2009, 02:20:53 AM »

Nobody can talk smack without a youtube page and a  workbench .


YouTube?  Nothing but a bunch of suckerfish in an NSA barrel there.  Every once in a great while you see something real there, and then "poof" it's gone.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2009, 03:30:39 AM »
Thats not true ,  Its never ''poof'' gone , most of the time the user himself tried to add a clout  of mystery to his BS . Show me the last time this happened .

And OFC they are not gonna release all the hidden details on a frikkin video with a shitty cam , scientists dont do that lol , they are gonna tell you in jibberish terms because thats what scientists are like . Its like they are smart and they wanna brag and stuff and they make videos about it , if a scientist really wanted to use all his brain power to release something BIG he would have . But scientists are just a bunch of gay nerds ... yeah it fukkin sucks ...

Youtube is better than the 'typable in 5 mins' opinion of a ?$WTF%% guy on a  reject looking like site .

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2009, 05:24:10 AM »
My poynt is that NSA and CIA are all over YouTube.

Post the Holy Grail and get Thor's Hammer for free.  Skype might be next.
 

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2009, 02:50:22 PM »
well 

guess you all never liked my unit ... hummm

so i built the darn thing :)

lol

i also built a 4 coil inductance offset and mass tuned coils.. tic bang BANG! :) tic bang BANG!

IT RUNS WITH GAIN ...
by virtue of its design .. i collect the FIRST PASSED engery in the output cap ..  when i cut the pulse .. so goes the fly back .. same cap.. there will be 3 bridges... 4 coils and a cap

i used 814 toroide x2 and matched chokes ... 1 " goldmine toroides

my mass of copper 7.3grams .. all =  and wound oppsite dirrections..

maybe you will let me post a picture ...  and it would be nice if they can stay up on the screen!
what is showen is a tuned mass to mass unit!  all coils weigh the exact same..

21 grams...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLKH4Xm8T0
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 04:18:57 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2009, 09:06:31 PM »
Well I am in the process of winding a new center toroid.

I have been testing for the last few days with a toroidal speaker magnet with two coils wound on it, and results, although interesting are not what I thought. There is one thing I noticed at around 16mhz I could hear a rumble noise coming out of my computer speakers. That was weird. Also around 12mhz - 16mhz I could see specks on the TV screen. But the funniest effect was that at 1.1 mhz I was getting voltage rise from the outer coil loop and these are not connected to the toroid, so it was from direct either static or other form of induction. Probably the toroid was pulsing at the loops tuned frequency or something like that.

When that happened, I was somehow thinking about @Spherics three bottom coils and one top coil. Now we know that if two identical coils are in proximity to one another, if one is pulsed the other should also get that pulse to a certain degree. So if you have 4 coils identical, and three of them should be pulsed in succession, how is that possible if each coil that is pulsed will send a pulse to the others, or maybe this is what would cause the field to form all around the catching toroid at all times but have a major momentum happening as the actual pulse changes from one coil to the other. Anyways, that's besides the point here so sorry for swaying off.

So I am now making a new toroid using a T-300-26 core and 24 AWG magwire.

I have a question or maybe more of an observation.

Now if you look at the FTPU build, even the toroid coils have relatively few turns, the outer control coil also has not many turns when you consider the number of turns he could have put on them, and, the outer ring only has 2 1/4 turns.

So here is the thing. When making my last build I was looking at the ohm of these coils and they are all near the 1 ohm resistance level. There is basically no resistance anywhere in these coils.

Now even consider the OTPU four windings should again be not more then 1 ohm. We could speculate the same thing for the others TPUs.

So my question, if anyone can shed some light on this, is in EE terms, what is the advantage of having coils at 1 ohm.

Unfortunately I do not have the EE savvy to take that 1 ohm coil and calculate capacitor and other values to make a localized pulsing system at a given or chosen frequency so I am still using my new pulse generator.

But I am thinking there has to be something in the FTPU with some resistance. In the OTPU we could consider the two coils that are located below where the two magnets go to be wound of finer wire with longer length, so their ohm should be higher.

In the FTPU, between the top and bottom layers there is a white coil type component and if I am not mistaken, and looking at the wires visible in that area when looking at it from underneath, I am guessing that that white component is either a simple high induction air coil, or a high induction air coil with a reed contact inside of it. That is the only thing logical I can think of. Once I trace the wires going to that area I will know a little more.

Added: Two images, first of the speaker magnet toroid and second of the T-300 toroid.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2009, 10:08:20 PM by wattsup »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2009, 09:49:42 PM »
OK maybe just let me expand on something else while I am winding this toroid.

Basically if the TPU toroid coils only have 1 ohm resistance, that would mean these coils are the equivalent to most all primary windings, so why would you want two primary windings on a toroid, if there is no secondary winding there? That is a bugger of a question. Why the hell do you have two primaries. Some say it is an output voltage smoothing thing but then why would you use such a big smoothing coil for only 60 volts? Does not make sense.

Then consider this. If you look very closely to the center toroid, you will notice that in some places the wire has been embedded into the core, as if the core had a certain level of softness to it and the wire was able to make an indentation. This is impossible if the core was a toroid speaker magnet or a ferrite or iron core. There is no way this is possible.

So now I am thinking maybe I am wasting my time with this new toroid and I should consider making a new toroid but this time, follow what @GK said somewhere else, can't remember, but something about the tpu following Don Smiths design  but instead looking at it sideways and elongating the rings. But I am thinking its not the ring at all.

If the center toroid outer coils are primaries that it stands to reason that inside the toroid, there has to be a secondary. I have already made one like this but the secondary was wound horizontal and the results where not impressive at all.

Now I suspect it should be wound vertical, like the primary is wound vertical.

SM said wind a coil then wind another one over it. I do not think he was talking about the outer coils. He was talking about the toroid. I bet y'a the whole ftpu is one or two Tesla Ozone patent primary/secondary coils wound inside that toroid coil and 90% of the TPUs are the toroids. The rest of the outer control coil and loops are basically used as an output stabilizer taking high voltage from the secondaries of the toroid and compressing out the peak voltages to a level that is more usable.

Tesla did it with a primary over a secondary and both air cores. Don Smith did it this way also, so why not SM also. Hmmmm.

I think I will take a wooden ring, wind two fine wire secondaries of at least 200 turns each, then wind two primaries of about 20 turns each and see how this can fit into an FTPU. That indenting of the wire on SM center toroid did not happen by accident. he could have taken a wooden core, wound a secondary, then covered it all up with an isolating putty type material using a mold, then wound the primary over that and this would then explain the indentations.

The when he made the STPU and 6TPUs, he did not have to use any molding putty because the coils where to be wrapped up in electrical tape so no one could see them.

Yep, if I follow a logical reasoning of the TPUs, this is the next direction I must take. I'll let you guys know more soon once I build a new toroid, but I will not have to use any molding putty since "I have nothing to hide" - lol.