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wattsup

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2009, 05:40:52 AM »
This is what I have been saying about the relation between the blotch wall in the primary and the ring polarity.

The ring is getting the negative of the primary and the negative of the pulse generate, so the ring, for all intents and purposes is negative. But then where is the rings blotch wall. It is inside the primary. lol

This is what I am trying to explain of the required imbalance. If the ring does not have a blotch wall, it can only have one polarity. By using the primary blotch, this makes the ring one polarity, not two.

Now I will try it with two rings and two control coils. It will simply use the same set-up but separate the two primary negatives, one to each ring and then they come together to the negative of the pulse generator. Then on the secondary of the toroid, each coil will go through its own or opposite control coil then go to the output cap.

More fun to come.........

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #91 on: December 24, 2009, 05:56:10 AM »
OK, so here is a question for the EE guys cause I don't have the know how to calculate this or make a good circuit.

My toroid primaries are .3 ohm each. How can I take a 1.5 volts dc battery and have it pulse 10% duty at 90khz. That will be my starting point for getting this to start without a pulse generator.

Can someone please please please draw me a 3-4 component (not more) circuit with values, Thanks in advance.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2009, 06:38:00 AM »
   Love the geometry of those coils.  Torroids making mushroom clouds.  Merry xmas.
The wavelengths are synchronizing here on ou at least for me.  Angry scientist just put up this picture in the Tesla Tech topic   The other one is a little magnetic reconnect avatar of another board member.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2009, 06:59:18 AM by sparks »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2009, 06:50:42 AM »
That is why I posted this vid... Same thing you explained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms
And there are other vids from last summer with same thing. I put in 43k and -6mhz out.


Also, trying to find a way to make the scope stay put so I can take a photo but it is very difficult. The frequency changes like a never ending wave shift slowly one way. As I catch it, it changes again.


This is crazy because the speed of pulsing is sooooo high now, much higher then the 90k pulse frequency and it shifts so I cannot catch it as a stable scope shot. Weird.


wattsup

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2009, 12:24:13 PM »



has anyone tried to use sound,
as the source of high frequency,
instead of using electricity,
as the source of high frequency ?



sound is likely easier to create,
than electricity.

if a materials natural properties,
produce the high frequency sound,
than wouldn't that be profoundly easy and simple ?



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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #95 on: December 24, 2009, 01:37:56 PM »
   Transverse emwaves are the children of the longitudinal wave.  Compression happens to the space in between mass.  Vacuum fluctuations if you will.  We call these vacuum flutuations magnetism.  If the vacuum fluctuations happen in a field where there is charged mass free to respond to the new vacuum state then we get electrical phenomenon or charge seperation arising from the inertial response of charged mass to a changing vacuum state.  How is a transverse em wave able to travel through a vacuum?  Because it is altering the vacuum state as it goes along. 

wattsup

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #96 on: December 24, 2009, 04:41:26 PM »
I managed to catch this image of one of the waveforms. It seems that as I switch from on frequency range to another on my scope, the wave form does not get wider or thinner but it changes, as if each frequency range is discovering a new wave form. I will need to understand this interplay better.

But trying to get a stable waveform on the scope is next to impossible. I had to take the camera in my left hand ready to shoot and with my right hand adjust the scopes variable adjustment to stop it enough to grab the shot.

Anyways, if anyone can help on the circuit I need above I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2009, 07:05:45 PM »
@All

A few people have emailed me asking the precise wiring of the above Test #2 given my photo shows a missmash of wires. Since I am rather bad with classical circuit designs, also not knowing how to show four coils on a toroid, I made the diagram below to show the wind direction and turn amounts, etc.

In this particular set-up, there is a very high rate of overlapped currents that is very difficult to see with the scope as a steady wave form.

If you take the two primary outputs and put them together to one end of the ring, and then simply put the negative of the pulse to the other side of the ring, this makes one waveform that is easy to see but the results are more pulse driven and less recirculating driven.

I will try it now with a second ring and also with stranded copper rings to make the comparisons. I will put up a new diagram when that has been tested.

Within these variations, I believe the TPU base function is hidden.

With the one ring diagram I am making good multiple frequencies with one pulse source. Now with the second ring I will try and make the two multiple frequency rings collide at a given point and see what happens and can the voltage rise higher.

More soon.......

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #98 on: December 27, 2009, 12:04:15 AM »
GREAT Drawing Wattsup, and Thank you for sharing that.

However may I humbly say that I do NOT see any Circular Wires on any of SM's TPUs.  Please take a look and see what you think.

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I still see 4 Separate Coils on SM's TPUs.  My Wild Speculation is that your Iron Core Toroid goes between them.  For example, my WILD theory is that TPU Coils 1 and 3 are in series, as well as 2 and 4.  Then I speculate that your Toroid Coils should connect between them.

That way your Toroid Xfmr PHASE SHIFT will ROTATE the TPU Fields respectively.  The Applied Driving Waveform can be applied across Coils 1 and 3, OR across Coils 2 and 4.  The 4 TPU windings AND the Toroid windings are all IN SERIES as a CLOSED LOOP.  Of course a Collector Winding will need to be added all the way around the TPU to HARVEST the Power.  Please see my drawing below.  A DIODE that can handle 5 or 6 AMPS WILL HAVE TO BE ADDED in series with the TPU Coils to make sure the TPU can only rotate in 1 Direction.

« Last Edit: December 27, 2009, 02:52:21 AM by FatBird »

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #99 on: December 27, 2009, 12:51:26 AM »
@FatBird

Very good questions.

The FTPU center toroid is also seen in the OTPU right behind the circuit board. You can see it on the photos you just posted.

Extrapolating the FTPU top outer control coil which is wound all the way around the top ring, equals two of the coils wound in the OTPU. The FTPU bottom outer control coils equals the other two coils in the OTPU.

The main difference in both these units is the outer rings. In the FTPU each level has its own ring with around 2 14 turns, but in the OTPU, SM is using the bottom disk as the ring since the two coil sets are on the same ring. I would elaborate that the bottom ring has a slip or cut in it and they are probably meeting right under the back end where there is something taped between the two disks. His is basically putting one wire on each end of the cut on the disk to use the disk like a heavy conductor. I would say the disk is aluminum since if it was iron, he would not have been able to handle it like he did.

In the LTPU, all you have in the outer core is a top and bottom ring with control coils wrapped around each. Just think of the LTPU like a huge FTPU.

Put it this way. In the FTPU, how would you hold the outer ring/controls in place if you did not have a wire spool to mount everything on. Chances are you would make a large circular form of a light but good material and put one ring on top and the other ring on the bottom then tape over it all to keep everything in place. The FTPU is the basic design, the OTPU is a different variation, but then the STPU, 6TPU and LTPU follow along the FTPU design.

The only other question is the center toroid is not visible in the STPU and 6TPU. He could have used the same FTPU toroid and put it inside the outer core, like he hid the toroid in the OTPU behind the circuit board. This means to me that the center toroid physical placement is not critical and could be located anywhere in a build.

But again this is all to our best observations and logical reasoning plus a whole slew of tests that are not finished yet. I will know more soon.......

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2009, 03:05:35 PM »
@wattsup
what you think about this


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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2009, 04:05:37 PM »
@miroslav

For the toroid you were not that far away. Please see first and second images below.

About the transistor and capacitor, that is very interesting observation and I would have to look at it more closely to consider. But I will keep it in mind, thank you.

The third image is just to show the three points on the OTPU that touch the table, left leg, back leg and the circuit board. Also to show there is no right leg under the right magnet placement location.

Added:

Since the circuit board is acting as the third leg and it is longer then the two other legs (left leg and back leg) you can see the OTPU is balancing on the longer leg in the last image/animation. Sorry about the animation is not that good.

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2009, 11:07:02 PM »
ok wattsup thanks  :)

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #103 on: December 28, 2009, 03:06:11 AM »
Hi there, i did tonns of research about Tpu And steven mark,
And it came out that Steven may Stealed this technology from other inventors...such as NIKOLA TESLA

ok, it came out for me that most of these conversion devices work on the same principle, all of the MEGS,
But they only look&constructed Differently,

So i have started to look for these things and the puzzple pieces are slowly coming together,
i have read some of the questions and replies from Steven mark on some site,

Jack Durban Said he used a TUNED TANK CIRCUIT,
which consist of an inductor and a capacitor
that is the toroidal core connected with the capacitor to make a tuned resonant circuit
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This system is Started By two magnets WHICH ARE RELEASING MAGNETO STATIC ENERGY or its been put there as to act as a reed switch to confuse the people so they cant replicate it

magneto static energy is is Re- and de- magnetizing the magnet so it can release its continous power by changing the poles. but the magnet does not loose its strenght because two systems have been connected together and the energy released is also fed back to the system
Reference: search Arpad Boday on  www.ipexl.com

check this video out as well,
link:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMq657dgYT4&feature=player_embedded

website:     http://freeenergygroup.com/

now here is a patent from NIKOLA TESLA:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0381970.pdf

which is said to be very very very very very very related to TPU :)


i hope we will suceed,  Things do have to change on planet earth,


Love and light to all of you!

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Re: Understanding electricity in the TPU.
« Reply #104 on: December 28, 2009, 05:44:15 AM »
  This was early Tesla.  This is a motionless induction generator.  SM took this concept but instead of using iron which is ferromagnetic he used copper which is nonmagnetic.  Then replace the generator with capacitors but delay the tank onset of the ringing in each tank by whatever electrical degrees creates a rotating magnetic field.  Put a copper winding inside and turn what is normally eddy currents through a lamination stack into usable currents to drive lightbulbs.  The tanks will need to be magnetically resonant with the ability of the ambient magnetic field to act as a restorative force in each tank.