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Author Topic: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project  (Read 10265 times)

Offline Craigy

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PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« on: October 18, 2009, 12:34:21 AM »
Hi Guys some one asked me to have a go at replicating this old idea from our mr Hartmann himself, after searching here i cannot find anything at all , any one got a link to any of the discussions on it, here is the link , still working from 1997.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/shpmm1.htm

and here is my effort so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZOKHkl9zCM&feature=email

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 12:51:45 AM »
beautiful craftsmanship craigy.
looking forward to part 2.

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 02:11:02 AM »
Why monkey around with that stuff when this one WORKS!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfEI-1C2RCo&feature=pyv&ad=2912867106&kw=energy


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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
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Offline billmehess

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 04:11:56 AM »
This does NOT work, do not waste your money!!! Holding up a permanent magnet to a rotor with small permanent magnets and seeing this thing spin is a fake , fake , fake. They are pushing a DVD on a "working" magnetic motor for $47.00.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 04:44:58 AM by billmehess »

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2009, 12:32:41 PM »

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Offline mscoffman

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2009, 08:55:20 PM »

Neat; Now where is the plasticine gob for the speaker magnet?...His hand is
shaking and his nose is growing.

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2009, 10:57:25 AM »
Why monkey around with that stuff when this one WORKS!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfEI-1C2RCo&feature=pyv&ad=2912867106&kw=energy


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::) this post should be removed since the video is scamming money.   no fatbird, that will not work.

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 04:09:02 PM »
Hi Guys some one asked me to have a go at replicating this old idea from our mr Hartmann himself, after searching here i cannot find anything at all , any one got a link to any of the discussions on it, here is the link , still working from 1997.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/shpmm1.htm

and here is my effort so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZOKHkl9zCM&feature=email
any new word on this? or did the mib get craig?

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 10:42:04 PM »
any new word on this? or did the mib get craig?
The design doesn't work. That's why it isn't more or this stuff.
Notice the magnetic behaviour in the simulation, and you will understand why this will not work. The intention with this design was to make a pseudo circular magnetic field which is found around any conductor which electric current flows through. If succeeded with the design, the simulation would show that ALL flux lines in precense of the magnets would be forced in one direction only. This does not happen, and the netto field are forced equally in both directions.

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 10:42:04 PM »
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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 01:49:34 AM »
The design doesn't work. That's why it isn't more or this stuff.
Notice the magnetic behaviour in the simulation, and you will understand why this will not work. The intention with this design was to make a pseudo circular magnetic field which is found around any conductor which electric current flows through. If succeeded with the design, the simulation would show that ALL flux lines in precense of the magnets would be forced in one direction only. This does not happen, and the netto field are forced equally in both directions.

Vidar
i'm not asking for your opinion lowq... part 2 was to be forthcoming soon, i was wondering if it was made or not. so, unless you are personal friends with craig (eltimple) and know the status of this project, i really don't care what your opinion is. capiche?

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 11:36:40 AM »
i'm not asking for your opinion lowq... part 2 was to be forthcoming soon, i was wondering if it was made or not. so, unless you are personal friends with craig (eltimple) and know the status of this project, i really don't care what your opinion is. capiche?
I'm sorry for answering on behalf of someone else.
I am not telling you my opinion. I know the design quite "pesonally". It do not work. I know it very well. I have tested it. So there can be only one single reason Craig haven't showed up lately with this design.

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2011, 01:53:17 PM »
I'm sorry for answering on behalf of someone else.
I am not telling you my opinion. I know the design quite "pesonally". It do not work. I know it very well. I have tested it. So there can be only one single reason Craig haven't showed up lately with this design.

Vidar
are you prepared to present your data? so there can be only one single reason??  ::) talk about megalomania...

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2011, 02:42:17 PM »
are you prepared to present your data? so there can be only one single reason??  ::) talk about megalomania...
OK, I didn't mean to have delusional fantasies of my skills (If it was that what you meant by me having megalomania), so let's wait till Craig come up with an answer to your question, with a confirmation that his replica did not work. It's ok with me, but I tought you could get an answer sooner from somebody who is more active here than Craig is, and from someone who has tried this very same experiment.

I can show you my results, but I have to rebuild it first. I tend to not keep things which doesn't work.

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Re: PM_Square: (PM)^2 : Permanent Magnetic Motor project
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2011, 03:07:04 PM »
OK, I didn't mean to have delusional fantasies of my skills (If it was that what you meant by me having megalomania), so let's wait till Craig come up with an answer to your question, with a confirmation that his replica did not work. It's ok with me, but I tought you could get an answer sooner from somebody who is more active here than Craig is, and from someone who has tried this very same experiment.

I can show you my results, but I have to rebuild it first. I tend to not keep things which doesn't work.

Vidar
i meant that the reason you listed as "the only reason" is just a guess on your part. the reason could be something totally different from what you proposed. there could be multiple reasons...

was your test apparatus similar to craig's? what was your rotor weight, what kind of bearings were you using?

 

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