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Author Topic: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates  (Read 36069 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2013, 07:10:56 PM »
Here's confirmation of Roney technology by John Bedini and others. They use the same property of magnetic shielding.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2013, 07:10:56 PM »

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2013, 07:40:57 PM »



Here's confirmation of Roney technology by John Bedini and others. They use the same property of magnetic shielding.


Aking21. Thanks brother. They are infact the only ones qualified to verify this tech as they have been at it all their life :)
Good to know and for those  who ain't got it now you know.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2013, 08:33:39 PM »
Here's confirmation of Roney technology by John Bedini and others. They use the same property of magnetic shielding.

That picture has been around forever and none of those people listed have a working variant of it.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2013, 08:33:39 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2013, 08:54:57 PM »
Here's confirmation of Roney technology by John Bedini and others. They use the same property of magnetic shielding.

That picture is a lie.

NOBODY has ever gotten anything like that to "work".

Let me remind you that Bedini and his partner Rick Friedrich also claimed, in a YT video, that a "MYLOW" HJ motor "worked" because it spun for a while when given a big starting spin by hand.

Feel free to PROVE ME WRONG by showing anybody's working model built according to that diagram. According to YOU, a.king21.... this should be easy since you believe that there are "others" besides Bedini who have a working model using the "same property of magnetic shielding".

But of course you won't. You will just insult me and demand that I "prove" it cannot work. Well, that's been done already over and over.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2013, 10:14:30 PM »
I haven't built the Bedini or Roney version, nor have I pretended to.
I have however tested magnetic shielding and it does work. So a magnet normally repelled is instead attracted. My enquiries have revealed that the Bedini magnet motor does not produce much torque, which is why I have asked the question about Roney's shielding methods.
I am here to learn, and not discourage - as are some on these forums.
I for one do not pretend to know it all as some do.
I for one am looking forward to gadgetmall's build, as I will learn a lot from it.
Off course if Roney even half works, the prospect of integrating the technology into a pulse motor would be hard to resist.


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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2013, 10:32:50 PM »
Let's review.
You, a.king21,  posted a picture and said it was "confirmation" of Roney technology by Bedini and others. The picture you posted claims that it works, and what we think of as "working" would be a motor that turns, of itself, and keeps running without input of outside energy.

Am I right so far?

But it does NOT work, it is NOT a "confirmation" of anything Bedini ever did, and I see your posting of it as misdirection entirely.

No, I don't "know everything" nor do I pretend to. But I do know certain things, and I DO build and test things. Perhaps you, or anyone else, would like to tell me just how what Roney shows in the videos above, is any different from what I showed in the video I linked, which I made and posted in 2009.

The problem with "shielding" is just as you have noted: your "shield" material, to be effective as a shield, always winds up being attracted to the magnet you are trying to shield. If only there were some shielding material that doesn't behave this way, many PM designs might actually work. But unfortunately there is no magic material that does this. Just like "negative friction bearings" would make many a Bessler wheel work. But just like Bessler wheels, magnetic shielding seems to have some kind of hypnotic attractions... so people keep wasting their time on this dead-end, rather than using their creative juices investigating something that hasn't already been soundly proven not to work.

Let me add this: I don't give a hoot whether or not you choose to waste your time trying to get Bedini motors or Roney stators or Bessler wheels to work. What I object to is the making of FALSE CLAIMS or claims that are unsupported by real repeatable data. Like the image you posted. It makes a false claim and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2013, 04:44:34 AM »
Well, if it's a false claim that is fair enough. I asked certain experts about this device a month or so ago. I was told that it just about worked but there was little or no useful  power.
What interested me is gadgetmall's attempt to create a magnetic motor.
The results shall certainly  be interesting.
In any case my instincts tell me that if the Bedini version was to work it would require a high level of precision engineering, which is certainly beyond me and beyond,I suspect, most of the vast majority of amateurs on the fe sites.
What would be interesting would be if a serious attempt at building the "Bedini etc" device was made and failed. I would certainly be interested in seeing such a video if it exists.
I looked at Roneys video and didn't see anything special about using a dead battery in the stator.
But as usual, the result of serious experiments is what matters.


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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2013, 04:44:34 AM »
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