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Author Topic: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates  (Read 35863 times)

Offline carbonc_cc

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 05:06:20 PM »
Here is another update I worked on last night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-dIuBg-EAg


Interesting result with the batteries.  The field strength was quite weakend on the outside of the battery.  If I had a peice of wood the same thickness, the flux lines would have been much stronger.  And if I just used a peice of metal the same thickness of the battery, I'm sure the field strength would have almost been the same as just the magnet alone.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 05:06:20 PM »

Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2009, 12:33:54 PM »
James has put up a new video on his "improved" Runway Plates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldKfHX__5Hw

When seeing his new design I wonder if he's not fooling himself in his conclusions.
He seems to believe the acceleration effect will remain once he completes the
wheel with all the magnets all around.

This has been tested over and over in various designs. Once completed it's a No-Go!
Last attempts on this type of motor was using the Tri-Force Magnets.
And as usual it showed acceleration but only as long as the circle wasn't completed.
If James got something new here I really hope he makes it into self running under a load.
By load I mean a connected generator capable of doing work, e.g having a small lamp lit.



Offline spoondini

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 01:57:48 PM »
What happened with his previous 'cutting edge' stator?  No comment there.  But this one will wok?  Looks like 1000 other attempts I've seen (and personally chased with no results). I just wish that when folks chase something that they find doesn't work that they would clarify.  In roney's case, it's clear his last runway plate didn't do what he expected, don't think this one will either.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 01:57:48 PM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2010, 05:20:43 PM »
Never use magnets on the rotor when you are using magnetic shielding in the stator, because magnet shielding is metal plate, and magnets (on the rotor) are attracted to metal plates.

If you're using magnetic shielding in the stator, use simple steel balls in the rotor. Steel balls aren't attracted to metal plates.

Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 08:29:16 PM »
I strongly believe James Roney's runway motor was a dead fish in the water.
He made several attempts and got strangely exited over small and weak movements
but none could ever self run. His best result was approx half a turn by hand induced force.....

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 08:29:16 PM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 09:49:28 PM »
Magnetic shielding is a real phenomenon, and I think he was in the right track...

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 09:58:51 PM »
Then you are probably one among a very few believing in this!
Magnetic shielding is not the way to overunity.
That's been proven and tested, over and over, for countless of times.
The rest of us know magnetic shielding does not exist and is a dead end. Period.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 10:23:57 PM »
The rest of us know magnetic shielding does not exist and is a dead end. Period.

Magnetic shielding does not exist???

I think you are trying to say that YOU don't call the phenomenon "magnetic shielding" because "the magnetic field lines are just being redirected".

Well, I don't care. The effect is the same. At the other side of the "shielding" there is not magnetic attraction or repulsion. So, it acts like shielding.

The picture bellow shows a simple test I did. I don't have neodymium magnets yet at home (I hope my order of 40 neo mags will arrive this week), but I have an aluminium plate, a metallic coin and a very small ferrite magnet. And that's enough to prove that magnetic shielding exists:


Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 08:32:04 AM »
No, magnetic shielding does not exist in normal temperatures.
But magnetic absorption or redirection does exist. This is not shielding as you wish for.

Any magnetic shield is attracted to the flux lines and absorbs them.
This makes the shield very attracted to the magnet.

A true shield would deflect the flux lines but this takes super cooling into super conducting state.
You can see this phenomena in the levitating magnet experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpH_TD_SVTc

Any other shield is being attracted to the magnet and it can't be used in magnet motors.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 08:32:04 AM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 01:28:50 PM »

Any other shield is being attracted to the magnet and it can't be used in magnet motors.


Yes, I agree...

There is attraction between any metallic plate used as shield and the magnets on the rotor. This is precisely why I wrote:

Never use magnets on the rotor when you are using magnetic shielding in the stator, because magnet shielding is metal plate, and magnets (on the rotor) are attracted to metal plates.

If you're using magnetic shielding in the stator, use simple steel balls in the rotor. Steel balls aren't attracted to metal plates.

James Roney's mistake was to use magnets on the rotor. Replace the magnets by steel balls and there is no attraction to the shielding.

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 01:34:27 PM »
If you use steel balls instead, what do you want to shield then ?

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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 03:03:08 PM »
Sorry, but no shielding will ever lead to a magnet motor.
This have been tested in numerous design for decades and there is no success what so ever.
I couple of runs while slowing down does not count.

In order to have success it must accelerate from standstill when released and continue to
accelerate under load until the RPM stabilises due to loading, windage and bearing losses.
Come back and tell us when you have achieved this.....so long, nice talking to you.

Offline Rapadura

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 01:09:15 PM »
If you use steel balls instead, what do you want to shield then ?

Wanna shield one side of the stator, as James Roney did...

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2013, 06:28:49 PM »
For your information this is the real deal. The secret holy grail magnet exist as he stated.. Naysayers did not build i t only speculated. The flux is strong on one end and diverted. On the other. Grab the videos before they are taken down a 4th time by youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XePk5ECrs0M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Offline MileHigh

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Re: James Roney's breakthrough: Runway Plates
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2013, 08:13:47 PM »
I looked at the clip and there is nothing there.  This always happens with magnets and experimenters that want to see something.  They lose their objectivity and bias their perception and end up seeing what they want to see.

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