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Title: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 14, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
yeahright has proposed that by simply using one (1) capacitor hooked to both the 'input' and 'output' coil of a bedini ssg we can determine if it's OU or not!
::)

i am all for this.
as i am not quite sure as to which is the 'input coil' and which is the 'output coil', as soon as yeahright posts a schematic of the proper connections for his test circuit and the required capacitor specs, i will run the test on my ssg.

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:11:56 PM
24 hours later and still no specs from yeahright. imagine that.

i'm sure he is too busy trolling to take the time to have his definitive test actually tested... ::)
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: CTG Labs on October 15, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
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Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:31:59 PM
John Bedini has repeatedly stated that there is no excess energy in his motors, you can measure them all you like and they will always be underunity.

The so called magic happens in the battery when it is hit with fast HV spikes causing the ions to move themselves in the opposite direction without having to put any current in.

Whether this can be true or not, he has already said there is nothing special in his motors, they are mechanical oscillators design to trick the battery in to performing this feat.

The measurement can only be, when you now run a load from the charged battery and compare to what you used to charge it, etc.  But the very definition of his "negative resistance creation in lead acid batteries" the effect cannot be seen in capacitors.  It relies souly on HV spikes causing attraction of ions which are much slower than the electrons in the outer circuit and this is used to his advantage (supposedly).


Regards,

Dave.

what has that got to do with yeahright's one capacitor test?

do you have the wiring connections for the cap? or the cap specs? can you tell me which coil is the 'input' and which is the 'output' as described by yeahright? no, so shut up.

yeahright has stated what he believes to be a conclusive test. i'm requesting wiring and component specifics from the little troll. let him put his money where his mouth is, and quit trying to drag this thread off topic.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: teslaalset on October 15, 2009, 08:34:36 PM
So why use mechanics to create High Voltage spikes?
This can be done by simple electronic oscillators.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:37:59 PM
So why use mechanics to create High Voltage spikes?
This can be done by simple electronic oscillators.
another idiot dragging this off topic...
do you have the wiring diagram or the cap specs? if not, shut up.


@ any other future posters, if you don't have the wiring specs or the component specs and can't tell me which coil is the 'input' and which is the 'output' you're off topic and your comments are not welcome.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: CTG Labs on October 15, 2009, 08:38:23 PM
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Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
Sorry, perhaps I am just thick.  The SSG has no excess power coming out than what is going, input coils or not.  Bedini himself has REPEATEDLY stated this, so this test can be done, but what will it prove?  There is no excess energy coming out of the SSG motor coil that was put in to the SSG input coil, the energy shows up in the battery via the ion process as stated by Bedini and Bearden in their books.

Am I thick or did I miss the point?

Sorry if you think I am pulling your thread of topic, didn't mean to offend you!


Regards,

Dave.
i don't know if you're thick or not, i'm starting to suspect that is the case... did you read the second paragraph of my first reply to you?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: CTG Labs on October 15, 2009, 08:43:05 PM
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Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:44:48 PM
If you read Bedini's book, you will see he says just that, and presents a solid state version to do just that, running the oscillator from solar panels.  It doesn't have to be motors, just that people prefer to seem to build them rather than his solid state version which they ignore.


Regards,

Dave.
and now you are replying to other off topic comments in this thread ::) yup you're thick...
what part of '... your comments are not welcome' did you not understand?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: CTG Labs on October 15, 2009, 08:44:48 PM
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Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:48:15 PM
Sorry for being thick, I will shut up.  I clearly no nothing...
dumbass, why does it take a full page for you to get this? i don't care what you know UNLESS it is: which coil is the 'input' and 'output' as described by yeahright, what are the connections to the cap and what are the cap specs, again as described by yeahright... if you know those things great, post it. if you don't, then STFU.

how you conclude from this statement by me, IN THE FIRST POST OF THE THREAD
"as soon as yeahright posts a schematic of the proper connections for his test circuit and the required capacitor specs, i will run the test on my ssg."
that i want a response from you re: what bedini has said is beyond thick. is your name yeahright?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: CTG Labs on October 15, 2009, 08:51:23 PM
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Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 08:52:51 PM
Manners costs nothing you know...  My point was simply that the test is pointless as there is no excess energy to be measured in the device as Bedini has already said.
you, the  guy jacking this thread off topic, is now giving me a lecture in manners? ::)
i take it back, you're not thick. you're stupid.

you gonna take up another page with your off topic posts?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: tak22 on October 15, 2009, 10:30:19 PM
for the sake of continuity I'll explain what's missing in the "deleted" posts by
Dave (CTG Labs). he was being reasonable and helpful, and he got rudely
trounced for his efforts. for what it's worth Dave, I appreciate you explaining
the "theory of Bedini" and the difference between the spike generation method
and the battery charging reaction.

tak
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 15, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
for the sake of continuity I'll explain what's missing in the "deleted" posts by
Dave (CTG Labs). he was being reasonable and helpful, and he got rudely
trounced for his efforts. for what it's worth Dave, I appreciate you explaining
the "theory of Bedini" and the difference between the spike generation method
and the battery charging reaction.

tak
more like for the sake of being repetitive. the off topic (rude is, to continue for a full page after he was asked to not post) posts are quoted by me and not deleted.

this is a rhetorical question... so don't be ruder than you already have been by posting a reply.
what part of
@ any other future posters, if you don't have the wiring specs or the component specs and can't tell me which coil is the 'input' and which is the 'output' you're off topic and your comments are not welcome.
did you not understand?

if you want to discuss solid state or bedini theory or anything else, start your own thread. idiots.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 16, 2009, 04:16:12 AM

I do not enjoy being around or among rude people...I don't know anyone who does.

Remember we are all in this together, good and less than good...so lets please try to find the civil zone.

My friend had the most off putting abrupt standoffish and rude aunt Hazel.

Hazel was theatrically animated and had the most acidly hilarious sense of humor...and would offend mock and insult anyone if she thought the situation called for it.

She would do in such a way it was impossible not to laugh.

There wasn't an imperfection that escaped her notice, and many became her target.

Hazel herself though walked with a pronounced limp and used a cane...but the appearance of others was fertile ground for her acerbic wit.

She never did it to me though...maybe it was because I always paid attention and was thoroughly entertained with her antics.

After having a few refreshments sometimes Hazel would come out into the back yard and call the 'play by play' of our evening horse shoe games, using a fence picket as a microphone...that always killed me.

Havel could have made it in comedy...she was a natural.

But she too critical with her humor and probably would have offended everybody around her.

Hazel would be merciless on people she found stupid.

Hazel never married...she was overly observant and the pool of men were likely 'too stupid' to tolerate...looking a bit like Babe Ruth in drag probably didn't get her many dates either.

She could be so rude...but I couldn't get enough of the 'Hazel show' though.

That Hazel made me a hypocrite...either that or she proved that you can get by saying just about anything as long as you get a laugh while you go about it.

Regards...

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 16, 2009, 06:53:50 PM
I do not enjoy being around or among rude people...I don't know anyone who does.

Remember we are all in this together, good and less than good...so lets please try to find the civil zone.

My friend had the most off putting abrupt standoffish and rude aunt Hazel.

Hazel was theatrically animated and had the most acidly hilarious sense of humor...and would offend mock and insult anyone if she thought the situation called for it.

She would do in such a way it was impossible not to laugh.

There wasn't an imperfection that escaped her notice, and many became her target.

Hazel herself though walked with a pronounced limp and used a cane...but the appearance of others was fertile ground for her acerbic wit.

She never did it to me though...maybe it was because I always paid attention and was thoroughly entertained with her antics.

After having a few refreshments sometimes Hazel would come out into the back yard and call the 'play by play' of our evening horse shoe games, using a fence picket as a microphone...that always killed me.

Havel could have made it in comedy...she was a natural.

But she too critical with her humor and probably would have offended everybody around her.

Hazel would be merciless on people she found stupid.

Hazel never married...she was overly observant and the pool of men were likely 'too stupid' to tolerate...looking a bit like Babe Ruth in drag probably didn't get her many dates either.

She could be so rude...but I couldn't get enough of the 'Hazel show' though.

That Hazel made me a hypocrite...either that or she proved that you can get by saying just about anything as long as you get a laugh while you go about it.

Regards...
the 'civil' zone would be to respect the thread creators request and not post off topic shit. the 'uncivil' zone would be to post some off topic shit about your auntie after it has been requested MORE THAN ONCE that you don't...

this is a rhetorical question, so don't be ruder than you already have been by posting a reply.
what part of
@ any other future posters, if you don't have the wiring specs or the component specs and can't tell me which coil is the 'input' and which is the 'output' you're off topic and your comments are not welcome.
did you not understand?
if you want to discuss solid state or bedini theory or anything else, start your own thread. idiots.

what the fuck is wrong with you people? do you love the sound of your own voice so much that you have post in a thread WHERE IT HAS BEEN ASKED THAT YOU DON'T? start your own fucking thread if you're that desperate to discuss bedini theory or your transvestite aunt...
and then after being so rude as to force your off topic posts on someone elses thread, you cry about them being rude or some shit because they called you on it.

how many times do i have to say it before you idiots get it?
YOUR OPINION, YOUR SOLILOQUY, STORIES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING TRANSVESTITE AUNTIE ARE OFF TOPIC AND NOT WELCOME.
i don't care what you did on who, what so and so said, or anything else other than the coil hookups and cap specs as per yeahright's 'test'. if you have that, great. if not, stay the fuck out of this thread with your dumb rude ass that can't respect others.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: spoondini on October 16, 2009, 07:30:05 PM
Wilby,
   For some reason it looks like the trap you laid for yeahright has somehow backfired.  I don't have the schematics.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 16, 2009, 07:35:37 PM
Wilby,
   For some reason it looks like the trap you laid for yeahright has somehow backfired.  I don't have the schematics.
your off topic assumptions and conjecture are wrong. it was a trap for the offtopic dumbass... looks like like several, including yourself, have tagged themselves for us.
then why are you posting here? how many times do i have to say it dumbass?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 16, 2009, 08:32:56 PM
the off topic, talking head dumbass... ubiquitous here at overunity.com
QED
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: tak22 on October 16, 2009, 10:35:49 PM

Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Goat on October 16, 2009, 10:41:49 PM
@ WilbyInebriated

At the risk of being publicly humiliated, here's one version of the circuits with the output coil clearly visible in red.  Is this the circuit you need?  If not I have the FEG book with all the circuits including solid state with capacitors if you want to see those.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

Edit:  Oops, wrong pic  :P  Ok just uploaded the original :P
Edit2:  If you replace the receiving battery with a cap you will blow the transistor in short order :)

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 16, 2009, 10:42:19 PM
Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris
if caesar were alive, you would still be off topic... dumbass.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Justalabrat on October 17, 2009, 01:09:08 AM
Isn't it obvious? input coils are on the left and output coils are on the right.
Everybody knows that!
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: HeairBear on October 17, 2009, 02:52:11 AM
Isn't it obvious? input coils are on the left and output coils are on the right.
Everybody knows that!

You are incorrect.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Justalabrat on October 17, 2009, 05:29:19 AM
LOL ;D
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: HeairBear on October 17, 2009, 06:05:51 AM
Are you confusing "Power Coil" and "Trigger Coil" with "Input" and "Output"?
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 17, 2009, 12:48:26 PM
My post was to try to bring a little levity to a thread that had deteriorated into a verbal abuse fest.

At the risk of being "off topic" again...

If anyone can post to a thread on any internet forum that stays on topic, please post a link to it, I would like to see what one looks like.

To expect that your threads will be the special ones that remain "on topic" is delusional..a label which you have so generously apply to others here.

Bottom line...if you cannot express your desire for "on topic" conduct in your threads, and continue your abusive conduct your user name will be removed.

When you start your own forum you can conduct yourself as you please...likely alone.

Posting here is a privilege granted by the administration in case you have forgotten.

Regards...

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 06:59:19 PM
My post was to try to bring a little levity to a thread that had deteriorated into a verbal abuse fest.

At the risk of being "off topic" again...

If anyone can post to a thread on any internet forum that stays on topic, please post a link to it, I would like to see what one looks like.

To expect that your threads will be the special ones that remain "on topic" is delusional..a label which you have so generously apply to others here.

Bottom line...if you cannot express your desire for "on topic" conduct in your threads, and continue your abusive conduct your user name will be removed.

When you start your own forum you can conduct yourself as you please...likely alone.

Posting here is a privilege granted by the administration in case you have forgotten.

Regards...
your post was off topic.

you are off topic again after being asked to stop, asshole...  your request for a link to a thread that stays on topic is IRRELEVANT.

there is zero moderation on this site. and now you're coming down on me for attempting to moderate my own thread? are you mental? why did you say nothing to the 8 posters that refused to comply with my requests to stay on topic before you showed up with your off topic story? why didn't you diffuse the situation with reminders to them about posting being a privilege? instead you post (in an attempt at levity. how bout an attempt at moderation...) some off topic shit. yeah get some integrity cap or fuck off.

yeah, where in my post do you see me asking about bedini theory, solid state or your story? i was quite specific about what i was looking for and after the idiot train (including yourself) responded, i again, each time clarified what it was i was looking for. so fuck off with your off topic posts cap. and go ahead remove my account. you and the talking heads can sit around and talk off topic all day. weren't you asked not to post off topic shit in here? and here you are again? moderate yourself and start your own thread dumbass... here's an idea for a title... the "yeahright's 1cap OU or NOU off topic/my opinion test"

bottom line, you're all a bunch of kids that can't exercise self control and keep your mouth shut when someone is NOT addressing you OR when you have been asked to REFRAIN FROM POSTING.

edit: you're rude and stupid. QED
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 07:31:15 PM
cap z ro don't post off topic in this thread anymore. if you can supply what has been explicitly requested over and over, great. if not, exercise some self control.

and of course you'll be mental and respond won't you? even after you have been asked not to...
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 17, 2009, 07:50:57 PM

Here's what's relevant...

When anyone registers to this site they agree to the following terms of service...below is an excerpt:

" 6. Specific Use

You further agree not to use the website to send or post any message or material that is unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, indecent, threatening, harmful, vulgar, obscene, sexually orientated, racially offensive, profane, pornographic or violates any applicable law and you hereby indemnify the Website Owner against any loss, liability, damage or expense of whatever nature which the Website Owner or any third party may suffer which is caused by or attributable to, whether directly or indirectly, your use of the website to send or post any such message or material."

To paraphrase you...' What part of the above do you not understand' ??

If everyone here addressed one another in the manner which you seem to think you are entitled to, there would not be a single self respecting inventor or research scientist left here.

Would you agree with that assessment ?

THAT...is the issue here - and not your "right" to direct your own thread.

You have no grounds for argument or protest...or do you intend to drag out this ego exercise in futility for a few pages, like those you mercilessly chided in the past for 'beating a dead horse', metaphorically speaking, when found to be incorrect on some point or issue.

Stop your abuse...you have been shown where you are wrong!!

If you persist, then I'm sure you will find out how well this site is moderated.

So, give up the abuse and behave civilly...that is not a reasonable suggestion...particularly when that is what you agreed to do when you registered.

If you are unable to or unwilling to live up to your part of the agreement, do not be surprised if the site fulfills its part of the agreement.

Regards...

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 07:57:50 PM
Here's what's relevant...

When anyone registers to this site they agree to the following terms of service...below is an excerpt:

" 6. Specific Use

You further agree not to use the website to send or post any message or material that is unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, indecent, threatening, harmful, vulgar, obscene, sexually orientated, racially offensive, profane, pornographic or violates any applicable law and you hereby indemnify the Website Owner against any loss, liability, damage or expense of whatever nature which the Website Owner or any third party may suffer which is caused by or attributable to, whether directly or indirectly, your use of the website to send or post any such message or material."

To paraphrase you...' What part of the above do you not understand' ??

If everyone here addressed one another in the manner which you seem to think you are entitled to, there would not be a single self respecting inventor or research scientist left here.

Would you agree with that assessment ?

THAT...is the issue here - and not your "right" to direct your own thread.

You have no grounds for argument or protest...or do you intend to drag out this ego exercise in futility for a few pages, like those you mercilessly chided in the past for 'beating a dead horse', metaphorically speaking, when found to be incorrect on some point or issue.

Stop your abuse...you have been shown where you are wrong!!

If you persist, then I'm sure you will find out how well this site is moderated.

So, give up the abuse and behave civilly...that is not a reasonable suggestion...particularly when that is what you agreed to do when you registered.

If you are unable to or unwilling to live up to your part of the agreement, do not be surprised if the site fulfills its part of the agreement.

Regards...
really? then you should get the 'peace fuckers' thread out of the forum YOU moderate, and that's only one among many... or you might end up with negative integrity instead of the zero integrity you have now.

"cap z ro don't post off topic in this thread anymore. if you can supply what has been explicitly requested over and over, great. if not, exercise some self control."
so, to paraphrase you paraphrasing me: "what part of the above don't YOU understand?"

actually i do have grounds for protest, i asked people to stop posting, they continued. did a moderator show up and ask them to stop posting off topic? no. a mod did show up and post some off topic shit though, guess who that was?

moderate instead of posting off topic where you have been asked not to.

IF THERE IS ANY OFF TOPIC ISSUE...
the issue is zero moderation of off topic posters, not surprising, seeing how certain mods don't mind being said off topic posters.

i'm going to ask you AGAIN to not post in this thread. how many times is that now? i've lost count.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 08:08:12 PM
and again you're going to post an off topic reply after being asked over and over not to. ever heard of a PM?
what was that you were saying about your ego exercise?

you are mental.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 17, 2009, 08:17:14 PM

Not surprisingly, another predictably hypocritical response...more than enough warning has been issued.

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 08:20:46 PM
Not surprisingly, another predictably hypocritical response...more than enough warning has been issued.
another off topic reply. imagine that.
why don't you go look at energeticforum.com at some of the threads there. take a lesson from them on how the mods there keep threads on topic...
or try wiki for logical fallacies...
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: spoondini on October 17, 2009, 08:42:54 PM
and again you're going to post an off topic reply after being asked over and over not to. ever heard of a PM?
what was that you were saying about your ego exercise?

you are mental.

Maybe we would use PM's if you didn't send us flaming PM's and then block us from responding.

You are not mental, you are @!?!ing up OU.com to feed your insatiable ego.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 08:48:33 PM
Maybe we would use PM's if you didn't send us flaming PM's and then block us from responding.

You are not mental, you are @!?!ing up OU.com to feed your insatiable ego.
maybe you should have STARTED with a pm instead of posting where you have been asked not to unless you can supply the specific data...

you wouldn't have gotten a flaming pm had you not posted where it had been asked you don't.
what are you 7 years old? act like adults and you get treated like adults, act like an impetuous child by talking to hear your own voice when you have been asked not to, and you get yelled at... duh.

but again, here you are posting off topic shit where you have been asked not to, repeatedly... like kids.
Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 17, 2009, 09:25:19 PM

The thread has been sent to the Administrator...you can explain yourself to him...that is if you are afforded the opportunity given your demeanor.

Title: Re: YeahRight's 1capacitor OU or NOU test
Post by: WilbyInebriated on October 17, 2009, 09:54:55 PM
The thread has been sent to the Administrator...you can explain yourself to him...that is if you are afforded the opportunity given your demeanor.
great, then i can discuss your lack of integrity as a moderator with him. maybe he can get an answer out of you re: why you decided to come into a thread where someone was losing patience with off topic posters and decided the 'moderator' thing to do would be to post something off topic instead of saying something to the off topic posters like a decent moderator would have...

i noticed you had to post again when you have repeatedly been asked not to. i'll discuss this abusive behavior with him as well.