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Title: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: Alexioco on October 12, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
Hello all it is I once again lol, Here is a simple wheel deisign which I came up with about 2 years ago, I dont know if it will work but in my humble opion I think it has a rather better chance than my presvious failed attempts which indeed I do appolgise for...

Here is the wheel kept nice and simple, the wheel contains four weights attached to four curved levers (could have eight weighted levers for more power) as the wheel turns clockwise due to weight (A), weight (A) reaches the "6 o clock position" causing weight (B) to swing out to the rim of the wheel from mid centre lifting weight (A) up at the same time via the cord which connects each weight running over the pullies in the centre of the wheel... This movment repeats itself everytime a weight reaches the "6 o clock position" therefore keeping the weights in search for equilibrium but never obtaining it.

I would just like to say that anyone here can build it, test it and just play about with it, I myself have not built it but i will when I have the time and money to do so, in the mean time feel free to test it then please post your results here as there is maybe somthing interesting we can learn from it. Anyone here wish to give faults, possitive comments are warmly welcomed and also any improvments will be greatly apcreciated as there is far more advanced and educated people here than me.

thanks and all the best Alex
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: overtaker on October 13, 2009, 01:43:04 AM
Welcome back Alex!

How is weight B going to lift weight A if they both weigh the same and you have no lever advantage?

I'm sorry but I see a non-runner.

Keep at it my friend.
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: AB Hammer on October 13, 2009, 02:14:35 AM
Greetings Alex

 I have not talked to you for a long time. I still play your music from time to time.  :)

I am not going to make comment and I will leave it to others to figure out. I have my hands full with a wheel that the weights shoot up to their zenith of the wheel. Yes this one truly looks like it is it. IMHO  ;D

Talk to you later
Alan
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: Alexioco on October 13, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Wow Alan am glad you like the piece I gave to you and thanks for the welcome back, about the wheel, yes the weights do weigh the same but weight (B) is higher than weight (A) so they should want to balance up and also weight (B) is in a stronger lever position than weight (A) so it should also lift it up unless I'm wrong... I'm sure it will lift it to some extent

Alex
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: FreeEnergy on October 13, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
weight (A) will probably travel half way the guiding ramp then it will stop :(

build a test model and see :)


peace
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2009, 12:51:09 AM
Hello all it is I once again lol, Here is a simple wheel deisign which I came up with about 2 years ago, I dont know if it will work but in my humble opion I think it has a rather better chance than my presvious failed attempts which indeed I do appolgise for...

Here is the wheel kept nice and simple, the wheel contains four weights attached to four curved levers (could have eight weighted levers for more power) as the wheel turns clockwise due to weight (A), weight (A) reaches the "6 o clock position" causing weight (B) to swing out to the rim of the wheel from mid centre lifting weight (A) up at the same time via the cord which connects each weight running over the pullies in the centre of the wheel... This movment repeats itself everytime a weight reaches the "6 o clock position" therefore keeping the weights in search for equilibrium but never obtaining it.

I would just like to say that anyone here can build it, test it and just play about with it, I myself have not built it but i will when I have the time and money to do so, in the mean time feel free to test it then please post your results here as there is maybe somthing interesting we can learn from it. Anyone here wish to give faults, possitive comments are warmly welcomed and also any improvments will be greatly apcreciated as there is far more advanced and educated people here than me.

thanks and all the best Alex

Hi everyone good day!  ;D

for me as long as it can produce a magnetic field then it's good.  ;D
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: Alexioco on October 14, 2009, 12:55:55 AM
weight (A) will probably travel half way the guiding ramp then it will stop :(

build a test model and see :)


peace

Hey thanks for the comment and by the way they arnt ramps but levers with the weights attached at the end...

Alex
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: overtaker on October 14, 2009, 01:57:51 AM
Alex,   Even if levered weight B can lift levered weight A ( because much of the weight of lever A will now be supported on it's pivot point and it is easier to pull the weight than to lift it ) ,  it would be a slow lift. By the time it would finish the lift it might all ready be at 6 o'clock.  Much too late to work in my opinion.  Please build.  Something may be learned from it.
Take care. :)
Title: Re: One of my best! Simple yet possible?
Post by: Alexioco on October 14, 2009, 10:46:35 AM
Alex,   Even if levered weight B can lift levered weight A ( because much of the weight of lever A will now be supported on it's pivot point and it is easier to pull the weight than to lift it ) ,  it would be a slow lift. By the time it would finish the lift it might all ready be at 6 o'clock.  Much too late to work in my opinion.  Please build.  Something may be learned from it.
Take care. :)

Yes this was also my concern that by the time weight (B) has lifted weight (A) the weight (B) will be at 6 o clock but then again wont that mean that the next weight is ready to swing out to the rim and lift weight (B) up and so on and so on? I know that even if it did work in some way that it would be a great strugle for the weights to raise eahother up due to friction of the pullies so maybe as a last resort another mechanism could be added to just help with the lift but not contribute to the wheels motion...

Alex