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Title: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 11, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
Please help me identify what this is in the picture.


/Tommy
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: HeairBear on October 11, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
looks like a radio...
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 11, 2009, 07:59:07 PM
Please help me identify what this is in the picture.


/Tommy

It looks like the section of an AM radio, that looks like an AM antenna with the ferrite rod and windings on it. the small box looks like the tuner.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: mscoffman on October 11, 2009, 08:08:43 PM

Yep, I agree with the above....But by modifying an AM tuner slightly
you could do all sorts of things with it, some nefarious, some not.
The box looks like a standard variable capacitor (built out compressible
plastic film strips).

:S:MarkCoffman
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 12, 2009, 07:08:16 AM
Ok, thank you for your quick response!

I am not shure if i put this in the right forum but i do think this i connected somehow to the TPU or Leedskalnins flywheel. My research have let me to think that Ed's flywheel works like the TPU.

As in the picture we can se that the ferrite is moved (to the right) and i think another magnet is inserted at the ferrits left end. What could this be for?

/Tommy
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: giantkiller on October 12, 2009, 08:13:48 PM
A bias field.

Ok, thank you for your quick response!

I am not shure if i put this in the right forum but i do think this i connected somehow to the TPU or Leedskalnins flywheel. My research have let me to think that Ed's flywheel works like the TPU.

As in the picture we can se that the ferrite is moved (to the right) and i think another magnet is inserted at the ferrits left end. What could this be for?

/Tommy
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: Yucca on October 12, 2009, 11:20:10 PM
hi 3.14, where did the photo come from?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on October 13, 2009, 02:33:33 AM
looks like a radio...
Yeah, I'd say so, too.  Single sided printed circuit board(?) that might be part of an AM/FM radio.  Covered in dust.

Yucca said:
Quote
...where did the photo come from?
I agree.  Was there something you wanted to do with it?  The ferrite coil might be useful if it's continuity was complete.

--Lee
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: szaxx on October 13, 2009, 01:49:19 PM
Hi
Id agree that this is an old AM FM radio board and it looks like the long wave portion of the ferrite rod is missing. The clear bit in the piccy is a poly-varicon or tuner. There may be off the piccy a couple of small transformers probably green and red tape on them. These were very common in the seventies  (the pocket tranny) today that saying has a very different meaning. I occasionally had these devices come into the repair bay (sentimental reasons) they can be tuned up a little and the vhf part was easily converted to receive aircraft band at that time (UK).

Thanks Steve.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: BEP on October 13, 2009, 07:02:48 PM
Ceramic magnets were sometimes added to increase the Q of air or ferrous cored coils. I've only seen this done on filter chokes. Don't recall seeing done for frequencies above ultrasonic. 
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: mscoffman on October 13, 2009, 08:49:20 PM

This looks like something someone who is technical and knows
radio electronics but does not know how control electronics would
be designed. Like the function of magnetic hall effect sensors.

If that added section is just ferrous metal then that ferrous
segment might conduct magnetic field from the magnets rotating
on the wheel - saturating the antenna loop, Quite-ing an
AM radio station. It would pay to look at the audio ouput
section of the radio and to see what it's connected to.
You may want to connect an earphone or speaker there and
see what you hear. Is it a varying tone or AM radio station
or 2.5Mhz WWV. maybe below 530Khz in the LF band with
it's lightning induced static. It may have been built either as
just a magnetic position sensor like a magnetic metal
detector or a remote syncronizer or speed control of
some kind.  The above high level functions are very truely
just guesses.

It looks like an AM tuner because I think FM radio would
have much smaller capacitors (1-2pf) and much smaller
hairpin like coils. It's does not look busy enough for AM/FM
radio frankly.
 

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 14, 2009, 12:27:43 AM
Ok, thank you for your quick response!

I am not shure if i put this in the right forum but i do think this i connected somehow to the TPU or Leedskalnins flywheel. My research have let me to think that Ed's flywheel works like the TPU.

As in the picture we can se that the ferrite is moved (to the right) and i think another magnet is inserted at the ferrits left end. What could this be for?

/Tommy

NO !  ;D

 THE TPU WORKS LIKE RADIO !  ;D

THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS SPEAKER WIRE AND SOME TUNING OK  ;D

THAT'S IT
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 14, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
Its from a website (older version) that is about Coral Castle.
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/ (http://www.coralcastlecode.com/)

hi 3.14, where did the photo come from?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: Yucca on October 14, 2009, 10:58:27 PM
OK thanks. Yes its definitely a transistor radio board with the ferrite antenna rod end interacting with probably a PM. I can't work out how the magnet could spin on the alu wheel without crashing into the rod. perhaps the radio was rigged to emit a tone proportional to gauss in the rod (a make shift audio gauss meter) then the rig was span up (with modified radio attached) whilst listening for a change in the tone or something, just a guess.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 17, 2009, 02:40:12 PM
I beleive the flywheel was not designed to actually spinn around, the magnetic flux was.
/Tommy

OK thanks. Yes its definitely a transistor radio board with the ferrite antenna rod end interacting with probably a PM. I can't work out how the magnet could spin on the alu wheel without crashing into the rod. perhaps the radio was rigged to emit a tone proportional to gauss in the rod (a make shift audio gauss meter) then the rig was span up (with modified radio attached) whilst listening for a change in the tone or something, just a guess.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 19, 2009, 07:31:09 PM
Watch the videos on this page (3 videos):
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id20.html

Listen to the different sounds or clicking. The negversion1 is very interesting (very slow moving magnetic flux). This must be the magnetic flux going around and they are moving the magnets just a little bit so they touch each other. Leedskalnins flywheel had all magnets fixed with cement.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: giantkiller on October 19, 2009, 08:11:19 PM
One can also see the phasing of harmonics in the flux display.

Watch the videos on this page (3 videos):
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id20.html

Listen to the different sounds or clicking. The negversion1 is very interesting (very slow moving magnetic flux). This must be the magnetic flux going around and they are moving the magnets just a little bit so they touch each other. Leedskalnins flywheel had all magnets fixed with cement.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: EMdevices on October 20, 2009, 02:23:21 AM
The world is getting dumber and dumber, and to such an extent that the simple things in life are getting more mysterious every day.  Perhaps they are mysterious and magic, and our understanding has numbed our senses and we perceive them as simple. 

I've been to the coral castle and looked at the magnetic contraption and the carved CORAL blocks  that weigh  "TONS"  and were lifted up by some "MAGICAL" means, ....  yeah sure, they fail to read all the information available.

The man used pulley systems to increase the force (which are right there in his hut and they even have a picture of his setup)  to lift the blocks up on end and set them down. 

The man's magnetic device is called a ..... <drum roll please>  ...ELECTRIC GENERATOR. 
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: HeairBear on October 20, 2009, 03:11:38 AM
What do you suppose all the different radios and other odd equipment were found in his private quarters used for? I think there is more to it than just pulleys.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: sm0ky2 on October 20, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
that board came from inside one of these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/59-Ford-Fullsize-Radio-USA-1-CUSTOM-AUTOSOUND-CAS-MFG_W0QQitemZ160367835899QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091007?IMSfp=TL0910071310002r15166 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/59-Ford-Fullsize-Radio-USA-1-CUSTOM-AUTOSOUND-CAS-MFG_W0QQitemZ160367835899QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091007?IMSfp=TL0910071310002r15166)

proabably the earlier model that didnt have a casette tape deck.
what Ed did with it... is unknown to me....
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: EMdevices on October 20, 2009, 03:21:45 AM
What do you suppose all the different radios and other odd equipment were found in his private quarters used for? I think there is more to it than just pulleys.

he played around with simple crystal radios and they have one such coil and headphone set displayed in the gift shop.   Standard stuff that lots of people played with at the time.  His books are amaturish ways of explaining the subject of magnetism.  But for some reason,  people are amazed by the constructions he made by HIMSELF, and assume his other endeavors were somehow related, which they are not.  I felt sorry for the guy, his wife left him and he had nothing else to do.


Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: giantkiller on October 20, 2009, 05:50:23 AM
Obviously the chronometric, sextant, stellar observatory configurations were missed. The 21m on the iron door points to a goldilock's zone in Ursa minor. The 3 bears table points this out. Nasa found a planet in their Goldilock's zone, ~20 mllion miles away. Stand on the north tower and look into the watchmaker's design. I was also there with an open mind. Explain the cut slabs with no dust or debris. Explain the tank circuits that used to run through the park! Where on this planet are there LC ckts with 20 feet between the L and C.

To any of you: duplicate it, at night with no sound and no lights. Only the moon and stars. The astronometric clocking is incredible. And when it is all said and done check the pointers in the park that look out into space and point the way out. How could this guy know?
We can't tell now because the officials demanded the park get cleaned up or plowed under. Alexander's library all over again. We keep pulling the same old game of denial and destruction over and over again. Go back to your TVs!
Read Keely. He moved rock also. Documented. If it is a farce do you think Dale Pond would have published a book on this technique? The mixing of sound and frequencies?

--gk.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: kurtnorway on October 22, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
The shiny box in the midle of picture looks the same as you can find in a microwave owen, I have opened a few so I know.
I think this thing is the part that broadcast the microwaves (or radiowaves)
I would be cearful playing with this thing powered and unshielded.
Might find these things in old radios as well, I don't know.

kn
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: 3decimal14 on October 22, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
The microwave is used to start the magnetic flux and the radio for adjusting it.
What do you think?

/Tommy


The shiny box in the midle of picture looks the same as you can find in a microwave owen, I have opened a few so I know.
I think this thing is the part that broadcast the microwaves (or radiowaves)
I would be cearful playing with this thing powered and unshielded.
Might find these things in old radios as well, I don't know.

kn
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: kurtnorway on October 22, 2009, 06:24:53 PM
Sorry, have no idea other than microwaves consist of extreamly short waves and can be hassardous to human tissu if exposed in close proxemity.
Where did you find this thing in the first place anyway?

kn
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: Spider on October 22, 2009, 06:32:16 PM
An electromagnetic black hole made of metamaterials

http://arxiv.org/abs/0910.2159

Traditionally, a black hole is a region of space with huge gravitational field in the means of general relativity, which absorbs everything hitting it including the light. In general relativity, the presence of matter-energy densities results in the motion of matter propagating in a curved spacetime1, which is similar to the electromagnetic-wave propagation in a curved space and in an inhomogeneous metamaterial2. Hence one can simulate the black hole using electromagnetic fields and metamaterials. In a recent theoretical work, an optical black hole has been proposed based on metamaterials, in which the numerical simulations showed a highly efficient light absorption3. Here we report the first experimental demonstration of electromagnetic black hole in the microwave frequencies. The proposed black hole is composed of non-resonant and resonant metamaterial structures, which can absorb electromagnetic waves efficiently coming from all directions due to the local control of electromagnetic fields. Hence the electromagnetic black hole could be used as the thermal emitting source and to harvest the solar light.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0910.2159v1
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: kurtnorway on October 26, 2009, 01:47:43 AM
Found this oscillator in an old GPS navigator.

Is it possible to make a variable frequence oscillator out of this, anyone with some radio knowledge maybe kan answere this ?

kn
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: sparks on October 26, 2009, 04:37:01 AM
   Crystal radios are free energy devices.  Need a scaleup and away we go.  Keely Tesla and most musicians understand resonance.  You can store very feeble inputs over a time span in a resonant system.  So if you can transduce electomagnetic wave energy or if you prefer photons into emf and then produce longitudinal waves you can vibrate most anything apart or move it in most any direction.  The aether is filled to bursting with electromagnetic waves.  Observe them store them release them.  People in the way back machine carved solid pieces of granite to accurate planes and angles that our state of the art laser technology has a hard time just measuring never mind fabricating.  I don't see some slave inside a granite box working the corners down with a bronze chisel to nanometer precision.  And why would a pyramid have an electolysis tank and a resonant chamber connected to a third chamber in which this box was placed.  Say they want to disintegrate something.  Maybe the Kings corpse (or any number of corpses for that matter) heres what you do.  You fill the electrolysis unit with salt water.  Then you turn on the juice from maybe a copper acid battery bank.  The hydrogen and oxygen accumulate in this column.  Then you spark it.  The shock wave enters the resonant cavity where it is modified into the proper frequency to set the big resonator over the kings chamber into action.  The granite box is a nice combination of crystals and various radioactive isotopes.  Sound energy is absorbed by the box from the massive mechanical resonator above it and the box now converts sound energy into electrical energy via the piezo effect. The Uranium isotopes are now stimulated into decay mode and the neutrons start to do their thing on the dehydrated corpse.  It lights it on fire first then it turns it into plasma and the plasma responds to the magnetic field lines passing through the chamber.  Out the little tunnels aligned with the magnetic field lines of the Earth flys the pharoh in this weird green aurora borealis glow.  That's enough to scare any poor working Joe into believing the Pharoh is heading for the big dipper.  That poor bastard is not going to be late for work the next day even if the priests of the temple don't pay him.  That's what happens when a technologically advanced society dumbs down.
Pretty soon guys like Tesla and Keely and Leedskalin start to appear as in tune with the supernatural when all they did was use their minds to do other things than chase ass and get high.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: giantkiller on October 26, 2009, 04:50:04 PM
Can you say 'Zardoz'?

@all and anybody that has no clue what has happened,
Ed leedskalnin had variable capacitors in a wooden box. Had an a.m. radio in a steel box. Had cables running under the ground across the castle. 'This place is a mess. Lets make things right!' They exclaimed and newly educated owners cleaned up the park. They hung the capacitors on the wall by the generator with care, they set the radio by his bed for his listening pleasure, and they pulled up those nasty old wires sticking out the ground to keep the visitor from tripping.  Ed has to be turning in his grave... Go ahead and hold your religious symbols dearly, close to your bossom of ignorance. The 'Star of David' is a 2 chord heterodyning resonant model. The Swatztica is a 4 coil, 2 phase rotorless Tesla configuration. The Chinese Ying and Yang is a sine wave in a resonant spherical chamber. Magnet frequencies can align DNA into their pristine state. Today we have groups aligned with the Star or the Swatztica. The Ying is seen as an emotional balance. True, but a small view.  Magents are worn as jewelry and believed to cure and seen as quackery. The Ancients are seen as mystics. Today the race of humans is nothing more than a bad product of eons of 'Whisper down the lane'. See what all the great teachers are up against? The flood and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorah were atempts to stem the tide of ingorance. And in the reference I do mean pathetic long term ignorance. Quetzalcoatl is coming back to stop the bullshit once and again for all. I guess that gives new meaning to 'Every eye shall see and every knee shall bow'. Just maybe everybody will see the intellectual primary goal instead of the ignorantly primal goal at the same time?
@Sparks, Thanks.

--gk. Round and round it goes.

   Crystal radios are free energy devices.  Need a scaleup and away we go.  Keely Tesla and most musicians understand resonance.  You can store very feeble inputs over a time span in a resonant system.  So if you can transduce electomagnetic wave energy or if you prefer photons into emf and then produce longitudinal waves you can vibrate most anything apart or move it in most any direction.  The aether is filled to bursting with electromagnetic waves.  Observe them store them release them.  People in the way back machine carved solid pieces of granite to accurate planes and angles that our state of the art laser technology has a hard time just measuring never mind fabricating.  I don't see some slave inside a granite box working the corners down with a bronze chisel to nanometer precision.  And why would a pyramid have an electolysis tank and a resonant chamber connected to a third chamber in which this box was placed.  Say they want to disintegrate something.  Maybe the Kings corpse (or any number of corpses for that matter) heres what you do.  You fill the electrolysis unit with salt water.  Then you turn on the juice from maybe a copper acid battery bank.  The hydrogen and oxygen accumulate in this column.  Then you spark it.  The shock wave enters the resonant cavity where it is modified into the proper frequency to set the big resonator over the kings chamber into action.  The granite box is a nice combination of crystals and various radioactive isotopes.  Sound energy is absorbed by the box from the massive mechanical resonator above it and the box now converts sound energy into electrical energy via the piezo effect. The Uranium isotopes are now stimulated into decay mode and the neutrons start to do their thing on the dehydrated corpse.  It lights it on fire first then it turns it into plasma and the plasma responds to the magnetic field lines passing through the chamber.  Out the little tunnels aligned with the magnetic field lines of the Earth flys the pharoh in this weird green aurora borealis glow.  That's enough to scare any poor working Joe into believing the Pharoh is heading for the big dipper.  That poor bastard is not going to be late for work the next day even if the priests of the temple don't pay him.  That's what happens when a technologically advanced society dumbs down.
Pretty soon guys like Tesla and Keely and Leedskalin start to appear as in tune with the supernatural when all they did was use their minds to do other things than chase ass and get high.
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: stprue on October 26, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
@Gk

I didn't get a chance to make that video yet but I did mess around a little last night before bed.  After grounding my TPU I could get about 22v either AC or DC with an input of 10v at 5KHz.  I'm still pretty sure that I'm not hooking it up right but at least I'm getting something.  What were your voltage results on the TPU in the last video you posted?  Was it self running for a while?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: giantkiller on October 26, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
This one was different. I put in 12vdc and the spikes or higher waveform was I think 20vdc.
But I was not concerned with that. The idea was to get the self-oscillation. That I did then I blew up my controller and 555 box. In the 555 box have since replaced a 556 and found I need to replace a duty cycle potentiometer. In the controller I have a port toggle program in place to test the E and B ports to find why the output drive side of the Uproc is dead. I have been waylaid. But in answer to your question. The concern is not the vin or vout. It is the heterodyned resonance. Remember, 3 speakers with 3 frequencies shows up as spinning on the scope and in air. Ask Innovation_station. He got it too. We can do this magnetically. That is what a tornado is. The matter follows the field. Also, that is what a Tidal wave is. Kinetic force accumulation. We see it ever day. My focus is unchanging because the laws of physics are unchanging. So above is so below.
I can reproduce the self oscillation now and I what to expand on that. But I got to fix things. There are a number of broken things at the moment. Sometimes we just have to stop, backtrack, take a break and do was is needed aside from the creative things.

--gk.

@Gk

I didn't get a chance to make that video yet but I did mess around a little last night before bed.  After grounding my TPU I could get about 22v either AC or DC with an input of 10v at 5KHz.  I'm still pretty sure that I'm not hooking it up right but at least I'm getting something.  What were your voltage results on the TPU in the last video you posted?  Was it self running for a while?
Title: Re: Can someone identify this thing?
Post by: stprue on October 26, 2009, 10:27:45 PM
Thank you for the response GK!  I understand it for the most part as for the vOut I just wanted to know if I'm at lease in the ballpark with that aspect which I am but it is instant and my TPU is grounded as well which is wrong.  I have lots to learn but thank you for your help.

P.S. I guess I'm happy I don't understand the TPU or I may have destroyed my new function generator  ;D