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Author Topic: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?  (Read 82909 times)

Offline CompuTutor

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2009, 08:30:52 PM »
I downloaded this file and posted it to a free public file server
for someone that was having trouble downloading it here too.

I am duplicating that link here as a backup.

That (Helper) thread will fade into the sunset,
but this is the actual thread to offset the fraud.

The thread I assisted in:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8272.msg208504#msg208504

The free file server here:
http://www.filedropper.com/Magna-Wont-Work

OU's file stats:
828,455-bytes
      809-KB

Note:
He managed to get a copy elsewhere,
it was the same 57 pages like OU's,
but his file was way way to huge...
6,608,383-bytes
       6.30-MB

Be leary of that one,
I suspect a payoad!


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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2009, 11:26:08 PM »

How do we stop them?

I claimed a refund through PayPal... reason - that the "product" was freely available and Magniwork was robbing people.

Clickbank refunded the money

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2009, 05:25:38 PM »
Report them to Google and Firefox as frauds..

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2009, 05:25:38 PM »
Sponsored links:




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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2009, 02:17:10 PM »
I paid them and I downloaded PDF files from magniwork web site but I haven't had free time to study their project yet.

I saw this subject about magniwork here after weeks I had paid them. So everybody here is saying that they stole others work and sold as if it was their work?!?

I thought it was their own project, they even were on Discovery Channel last year, I watched their magnetic free energy motor running on tv, was this motor fake or scum ??

So what should I do to get my money back?

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2009, 03:36:07 AM »
I paid them
and I downloaded PDF files
from magniwork web site...

First,
would you be so kind as to tell us:

1 - How many files
(You indicated the plural "Files")

2 - Their exact filename(s?)

3 - Their size (Each) in bytes
(Right click > properties...)

There is a procedure to get your money back
through click-bank, PayPal, Etc.

I'll collect that info while we await
your reply on the above file info.

Thank you very much in advance !  :)

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2009, 03:36:07 AM »
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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2009, 01:00:09 PM »
First,
would you be so kind as to tell us:

1 - How many files
(You indicated the plural "Files")

2 - Their exact filename(s?)

3 - Their size (Each) in bytes
(Right click > properties...)

There is a procedure to get your money back
through click-bank, PayPal, Etc.

I'll collect that info while we await
your reply on the above file info.

Thank you very much in advance !  :)


Magniwork Premium Pack

1) Magniwork Ebook.pdf-> 828.430 bytes

2) Home Renewable Bundle (dir)
-------------------------------
HomeEnergy.pdf -> 100.081 bytes
LivingGreen.pdf-> 950.088 bytes
RenewableEnergy.pdf ->689.848 bytes

3) Save Money at the Gas Pump (dir)
------------------------------------
62 ways to save.pdf -> 450.914 bytes
GasSavingDevices.pdf-> 207.981 bytes
Water to Gas.pdf -> 688.172 bytes

4) Solar and Wind DIY KITS (dir)
----------------------------------
Magniwork - Solar Panel.pdf -> 1.221.378 bytes
Magniwork - Wind Turbines.pdf -> 680.179 bytes

Did any of you try to build their free energy device ?? If yes, does it work ??
I am asking because I watched their free energy device was working on Discovery Channel.
I will try to build it if I have some spare time these days.

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2009, 01:53:10 PM »
I found this company, Lutec Australia Pty Ltd, web site:  http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm

its link was on a youtube video ( 440% over unity magnetic motor home generator ) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5jtx0IFgQ

and on their web site, it says:
BE WARNED - 'MAGNIWORK' IS NOT RELATED IN ANY WAY TO LUTEC AUSTRALIA, DOES NOT SELL PLANS FOR OUR EQUIPMENT AND IS NOT AUTHORISED TO USE OUR VIDEOS ON THEIR SITE!

So does magniwork sell this company's work illegally??

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2009, 01:53:10 PM »
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Mangi-Jerks
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2009, 07:41:46 PM »
In a word:  YES
(They ARE stealing and selling others intelectual property...)

Thank you very much for the exact file names and sizes !  :)
That helps us all out.

As soon as I can collect all these files from around the net
I will put them on a free file server for all to review
without being scammed out of hard earned money for stolen stuff.

I can only hope others partake in collecting,
then sharing these too to ruin their sales...

I think I'll put them all in one archive for ease.

Or perhaps someone here that has paid
and has been fully reimbursed too
could send me the full archive please?

I'll gladly post it so many places on the internet
it will prove impossible to delete them all   8)

Basically, it seems from others that it boils down to these two sites:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mromag.htm
http://www.magneticenergy.org.uk/Mini%20Romag%20Generator/Mini%20Romag%20Generator.htm

And yes, Lutec's (Stolen) ideas were in one of their releases it seems:
http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm
These scammer's seem shamless, don't they?

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An Overunity forum user that purchased it put his copy here:
(It is the newer one)
828,455-bytes
      809-KB
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=346

I put a back copy here too:
828,455-bytes
      809-KB
http://www.filedropper.com/Magna-Wont-Work
(Forgive my play on words in the filename...)


Interesting it is only 25-bytes different from the
''Magniwork Ebook.pdf'' version you just downloaded.

Perhaps you could compare the two for us all?

Also please note that a file
is available by Torrent, P2P, Etc.

it was the same 57 pages like OU's,
but this file is way way to huge...
6,608,383-bytes
       6.30-MB

Over 5 extra meg's.
Be leary of that one,
I suspect a payoad!

*********************************************************

Did I get this all correct?

Magniwork Premium Pack:

  828,430-bytes  .\Magniwork Ebook.pdf
  100,081-bytes  .\Home Renewable Bundle\HomeEnergy.pdf
  950,088-bytes  .\Home Renewable Bundle\LivingGreen.pdf
  689,848-bytes  .\Home Renewable Bundle\RenewableEnergy.pdf
  450,914-bytes  .\Save Money at the Gas Pump\62 ways to save.pdf
  207,981-bytes  .\Save Money at the Gas Pump\GasSavingDevices.pdf
  688,172-bytes  .\Save Money at the Gas Pump\Water to Gas.pdf
1,221,378-bytes  .\Solar and Wind DIY KITS\Magniwork - Solar Panel.pdf
  680,179-bytes  .\Solar and Wind DIY KITS\Magniwork - Wind Turbines.pdf
```````````````
5,817,071-bytes
    5,681~-Kilo-bytes
    5.547~-Mega-bytes


You have listed directories,
it must have come as a
.ZIP or .RAR archive, right?

What is the name of that archive,
and It's exact size in bytes please?

Thank you in advance for this !  :)

*********************************************************

You didn't indicate your method of payment,
but you should find these links a good start:

Remember, report that they charged you for what is available for free,
especially represent it as fraud to PayPal or your credit card company!

Click-Bank:
US and Canada Toll Free: 1-800-390-6035
Direct: 1-208-345-4245
M-F 7A-6P (Mountain Time)

Open your order,
fill in the form,
and check the “Refund” button:
http://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm

Report fraud:
http://www.clickbank.com/reportproblem.html

Live Chat:
https://www.clickbank.com/webchat/userinfo.jsp?chatID=&workgroup=cb_csq@workgroup.im.clickbank.local

Report fraud:
http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/request.py?display=form&contact_type=tiaff

*********************************************************

Some light reading:

Stirling D Allan: ''This is Fraud'':
http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/08/magniwork-energy-internet-scam/

SCAM: Bogus claim on plagiarized work:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork

I sell ''poor quality'' Magniworks guides:
http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/10/i-sell-poor-quality-magniworks-guides/

Igor Dobreski & Vojdan Vrcakovski:
http://www.off-grid.net/2009/10/16/magniwork-scammers-unmasked/

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« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 03:29:53 AM by CompuTutor »

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2009, 07:24:53 PM »
Well, I have poked around for 24 hours...
(In the wondrous world of Torrent's and P2P)

I have collected 152 files in 73 folders
that have absolutely nothing to do with Magni-Jerks.

That is a whopping 435 MB (456,333,013 bytes)

LOL  ;D

Anyway, Cydonian I have the exact (CD Root) file now,
so no need to compare them for us after all.
But thank if you if you were willing to do that for us.

In fact, of the many files I have that DO have
that have something to do with Magni-Jerks.

All four of these are of the same vintage.
What I mean is they all sponsor the same
stolen product info in all of them.

The properties tell an interesting story.

Note the sizes of the last two, be careful!
I wonder what "Wayne's" payload is ???

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Filename:        Magniwork.pdf
bytes            828,430
Kilo-bytes       809
Mega-bytes       N/A
Title:           Magniwork
Subject:         
Author:          Marijan
Creator:         Acrobat PDFMaker 9.0 for Word
Producer:        Adobe PDF Library 9.0
Keywords:       
Created:         2009-06-05 23:46:50
Modified:        2009-06-05 23:47:13
PDF Version:     PDF-1.5
Page Size:       8.50 x 11.00 in
Number Of Pages: 57



Filename:        Magniwork.pdf
bytes            828,455
Kilo-bytes       809
Mega-bytes       N/A
Title:           Magniwork
Subject:         
Author:          Marijan
Creator:         Acrobat PDFMaker 9.0 for Word
Producer:        Adobe PDF Library 9.0
Keywords:       
Created:         2009-08-23 16:03:24
Modified:        2009-08-23 16:03:50
PDF Version:     PDF-1.5
Page Size:       8.50 x 11.00 in
Number Of Pages: 57



Filename:        mgw_09x.pdf     !!! USE CAUTION !!!
bytes            6,608,383
Kilo-bytes       N/A
Mega-bytes       6.30
Title:           mgw_09x.pdf
Subject:         
Author:          wayne
Creator:         Adobe Acrobat 9.0.0
Producer:        GNU Ghostscript 7.06
Keywords:       
Created:         11732-100-100 19646:98:33460
Modified:        2009-12-07 13:25:13
PDF Version:     PDF-1.3
Page Size:       8.26 x 11.69 in
Number Of Pages: 57



Filename:        mgw_09x.pdf     !!! USE CAUTION !!!
bytes            6,612,943
Kilo-bytes       N/A
Mega-bytes       6.30
Title:           mgw_09x.pdf
Subject:         
Author:          wayne
Creator:         Adobe Acrobat 9.0.0
Producer:        GNU Ghostscript 7.06
Keywords:       
Created:         11732-100-100 19646:98:33460
Modified:        2009-11-11 20:57:57
PDF Version:     PDF-1.3
Page Size:       8.26 x 11.69 in
Number Of Pages: 57

*********************************************************

I hope to obtain an actual archive set from
a purchaser that has received a full refund.

I don't see the point in clogging up this fine
forum's & Stefan's server with intermediate
partials files sets as I await a valid archive.

I will still hunt for amusement mostly.

So here is the above four files
in a Win-RAR archive for now.

If you scroll back in this thread
you can see the almost four dozen
online A/V scanners I used on these
smaller files before archiving them.

I included a text file with dated data too.

Upon getting a valid archive from a purchaser
I will pepper the internet with free files daily
in an attempt to stop their profiting from this.

Stefan, you are of course welcome to serve
a copy of this too if you would like.  :)

One thing that can't be said.
Magni-Wonk's have been given every chance
for over a year now to produce proof that
ANY, I mean even ONE of the ideas they
unabashedly stole from others actually works.

Please correct me and provide a link if I am wrong.

To date, not one person has come forward
with an actual working device for all to test.

So no, I don't feel I'm doing an injustice,
In fact I feel this IS justice for ALL ...

And yes, I will absolutely forward a copy
to the two websites that were pillaged.

That's only fair, right?

Free MEANS FREE dammit   ;D

9.39 MB (9,855,076 bytes)   8)

http://www.filedropper.com/12-08-09magniworkfiles_1

Hope this helps people somehow.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 08:38:35 PM by CompuTutor »

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2009, 07:24:53 PM »
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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2009, 11:37:01 PM »
Why is this bozo not stopped by the bozo's at youtube. They are unforgiving on innocent members but when it comes to fraud they don't seem to mind.

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2009, 08:38:16 AM »
I have read quotes around the net
about numbers as high as 10,000
of the videos currently on YouTube.

That is a hard ubber-campain to tame.
("Pain" pun/misspelling intended  ;) ...)

And It occurred to me my request for a link
to prove viability for the stolen technology
might include the "Stolee" victims too.

I have my own beliefs on the viability
of the intellectual property they used.

And that is not harsh at all,
in fact I see some merit and possibility.

I meant that MagniWont has been asked,
and has not provided any verifyable successes.

Hope that clarification helps.

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2009, 08:38:16 AM »
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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2009, 08:54:38 AM »
Only thing I hate about this forum engine is this.

We aren't carving stone here as we go,
we are dealing with dynamic topics by nature.

I keep my post links and go back regularly
(On "Other" forum engines than this one)
and correct/update them for ALL future viewers
that may be reading a thread from the start
or at least from a point just before I post.

I posted something barely over a dozen hours ago,
and I am now (Already) screwed out of keeping
things accurate and up to date for all future viewers.

Gosh I hate that...
It is a real bugger.

It keeps me from posting very much,
when I otherwise would contribute.

Here is the updated link.

Sadly, I will have to make a NEW post
every friggin time because of this issue.

This isn't stone...

12-08-09 Magniwork Files.rar
« Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 09:42:01 AM by CompuTutor »

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2009, 01:57:13 AM »

I hope to obtain an actual archive set from
a purchaser that has received a full refund.

I don't see the point in clogging up this fine
forum's & Stefan's server with intermediate
partials files sets as I await a valid archive.

Hope this helps people somehow.

@CompuTutor,
I took the bait on both of the Magniwork and magnets 4 energy
The Jean Laudin and Bandini projects.
I asked for a return from both and got my money back though.

As you asked the above question I will try to accommodate your request but you will need to come down to my level. I believe I have all links and stuff I used to buy the scams, and how they refunded my money.

Anyway I will try to get you what you want.

Zane.
if you want to walk me through what you need I'll give you my phone number and we can talk.
Send me a private email
dzndlideas@aol.com

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Re: Anybody else annoyed at the daily video flood on youtube by Magniwork?
« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2009, 02:49:39 AM »
Thank you Zane.

I'll make this easy.

When you purchased the MagniJerks set,
you most likely had to download it as a file.

It appears from others posts to be
a single file archive of seperate files.

Packaged with Win-RAR or Win-ZIP.

Could you right click on that single downloaded file,
and choose "Properties" on the sub menu that appears.

On it will be two lines of information.

1st will be the ACTUAL "Size",
2nd the "Size On Disk" (Larger).
(Larger due to Micro$haft's file structure overhead and so forth...)

I need the ACTUAL size in bytes
from the 1st (Top) line of information
for the archive file you downloaded.

The total size of all the files is
5,817,071-bytes

So the archive will most likely be
a little smaller due to compression.

The line should look like this.

"5.78 MB (6,066,176 bytes)"

Thank you in advance.



If perhaps you bought just one section
it will be a single PDF file and the above wont apply.

See (My) post 52, section #3 from me for the archive files,
or (My) post 53 for the sizes of the seperate (Single) PDF file...


 

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