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Author Topic: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.  (Read 40769 times)

Offline Zeremor

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Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« on: March 09, 2006, 05:42:32 AM »
It really was selfless of him to share his data about the EMILIE device. He shared so much information in good faith, so much so that ppl could almost have replicated it. I understand completely why he regrets sharing his knowledge. However, if I constructed something using some of pauls theories I would offer all of my construction data and feed back to paul as an act of faith, the same way he entrusted us with his knowledge. Its unfortunate, but Paul is probably doing the right thing by retracting all his published data. I wish the world was a better place.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 06:14:10 AM »
Indeed, it was nice of Paul to share his achievement with us. However, I'm afraid now, after Wesley Snyder's demonstration,, showing an all-magnet self-sustaining magnetic motor, designs with external energy input have become obsolete. How can Wesley Snyder be contacted?

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 02:15:39 AM »
Paul said he would be back in 5 months with irrefutable proof.....i.e. the self sustaining motor....and I believe him.  Of course, when this breakthrough is released, he is going to be a very famous person, and may not have much time for our little forum. Everyone who has an interest in this technology understands how important and "earth changing" this breakthrough will be for mankind.  Imagine what the world will look like when we no longer have to buy oil from unfreindly nations. Except for lubricating oil, we will no longer have any need for petroleum. The world will be a better place. 

I have looked at the other designs posted to this forum, and truthfully, they are not the same idea as Pauls. That does not mean that some of the other designs cant ultimately be successful as well. Just look at all of the different types of "conventional" motors out there....AC: three phase, single phase, split phase, shaded pole, repulsion / induction....and hundreds of variations of each. There are as many DC types...and every one of them are successful designs, having different sizes, starting torques, RPM's and other qualitys.  I believe that Pauls motor will ultimately be just one of many types, all possessing different characteristics. But as it is right now, his is the first, in my opinion, to demonstrate actual "overunity".

I dont blame him for removing the information. He was very generous to share with us the information he did.... he has to be careful every step of the way forward now. His breakthrough could easily be lost to people who would do ANYTHING to stop him. I think the world is going to change for the better in 4 or 5 months. I wish I could invest in his idea, because I strongly feel that he has a real breakthrough on his hands. We have not heard the last of Paul.....or  EMILIE.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 03:54:37 PM »
That is the nature of the patent system; the deal is that you
reveal what you wish to patent, and if it is "novel" and there is
an "inventive step", then you should get a patent in due course.

The catastrophe for US inventors is that the US patent office
is sloppy. It is better to use the European Offfice which is far
more strict, and which fails many inventions early on before too
much money is wasted. Unfortunately, the US office failed to
pick up on Yasunori Takahashi's work because although he
disclosed a great deal, he did not take out a patent on it.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 04:37:05 PM »
Do you really think his device will make it to market?   ::)  Have you not listened to Dr. Steven Greer?  Free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not ONE has made it to market. The only way it will become a public reality is through a grass roots effort.  Patent, smatent....it makes no difference.  You want to help humanity, let us replicate it beyond supression.

Rich  >:(

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Offline ewitte

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2006, 08:35:10 PM »
What we need is something thats easy to replicate for practically anyone and get it all over the internet.  You can't keep it a secret if you have 1 million people with working devices.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 12:23:56 AM »
I think this is the one that does it. And I think that his design it's just simple enough that anyone with a modest electronic background will be able to build it. I fool around with basic stamp micro-controllers, and it would be simple enough to "shape" and "time" the pulse to the electro magnet using simple flag and / or hall effect sensors. A few lines of code, and your in business. Pauls real genius, I think, was his use of a micro controller to "shape" and control the timing of the magnetic pulse from the electro magnet. I can tell that there were a lot of other "refinements" that he worked out over many, many months....like the exact type of electro magnet, the magnet spacing, shape and strength.  I cant speak for Paul, but after the big day, when his self powering machine is revealed to the world, and he has full credit....perhaps he will give us "fans" the details we would need to replicate his device. Due to financial constraints, I would have to build on a very small scale.... But a small army of "believers",  displaying working models all over the world would go a long way to break through the barriers that you all know are going to come up. 

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2006, 02:12:05 AM »
Do you really think his device will make it to market?? ?::)? Have you not listened to Dr. Steven Greer?? Free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not ONE has made it to market. The only way it will become a public reality is through a grass roots effort.? Patent, smatent....it makes no difference.? You want to help humanity, let us replicate it beyond supression.

Rich? >:(

It's not going to make it to the market because it doesn't work.  Yes, free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not one has made it to the market.  But it's not because they're being suppressed.  It's because they don't work.  They are fantasy.  Sure, Sprain's motor is a real device.  But it sure as heck doesn't put out more energy than it consumes.  The universe won't let that happen.

Sprain says he'll have a better device in five months, one that will leave no doubt.  But you can rest assured that in five months he will not have a device that works.  He is claiming the impossible.  Basically, he is telling us all that he can fly by reaching down and pulling up on his shoe laces.  And now he's telling is that since pictures of his shoes aren't good enough to convince the skeptics, he'll be back in five months with shoes with new laces.

Personally, I'm not holding my breath.


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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2006, 02:50:59 AM »
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He is claiming the impossible.  Basically, he is telling us all that he can fly by reaching down and pulling up on his shoe laces.

What do you think about Wesley Snyder's device? Do you think he is also trying to fly by pulling up on his shoe laces?
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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2006, 03:43:47 PM »

It's not going to make it to the market because it doesn't work.? Yes, free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not one has made it to the market.? But it's not because they're being suppressed.? It's because they don't work.? They are fantasy.? Sure, Sprain's motor is a real device.? But it sure as heck doesn't put out more energy than it consumes.? The universe won't let that happen.

You do not understand the nature of the zero point field. Learn some quantum physics if you
want to understand the nuts and bolts. We are not dealing with the law of conservation of
energy as applied to bunsen burners heating flasks of water in chemistry labs. It is said that
there is enough energy in an empty bucket to boil the Atlantic ocean dry.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2006, 04:11:56 PM »

It's not going to make it to the market because it doesn't work.? Yes, free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not one has made it to the market.? But it's not because they're being suppressed.? It's because they don't work.? They are fantasy.? Sure, Sprain's motor is a real device.? But it sure as heck doesn't put out more energy than it consumes.? The universe won't let that happen.

You do not understand the nature of the zero point field. Learn some quantum physics if you
want to understand the nuts and bolts. We are not dealing with the law of conservation of
energy as applied to bunsen burners heating flasks of water in chemistry labs. It is said that
there is enough energy in an empty bucket to boil the Atlantic ocean dry.


Sprain's device has nothing to do with "the zero point field".  It's just an arrangement of permanent magnets and an electromagnet.

The claim for this device is that the mechanical energy output exceeds the electrical energy input.  One need not understand how the device works or where any excess energy is coming from to apply conventional thermodynamics to evaluate "overunity or not overunity".  The quality and detail of the input and output measurements don't even begin to support the claims of overunity.

I don't understand this rabid need to believe.  Virtually every guy with a claimed perpetual motion machine is greeted with enthusiastic congratulations and dozens of people working to replicate it.  But then he fades into the background and nobody is ever quite able to replicate his claims.  Every single time.  Sprain is no different.


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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2006, 04:19:33 PM »
How about Wesley Snyder's device? Is the effect of spinning the rotor without energy input real or not?

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2006, 07:39:23 PM »
He shared so much information in good faith, so much so that ppl could almost have replicated it.

The key word in your sentence is "almost". I read his patent. He doesn't give enough information there to replicate his device, without a lot of expensive and time-consuming experimentation.

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
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The key word in your sentence is "almost". I read his patent. He doesn't give enough information there to replicate his device, without a lot of expensive and time-consuming experimentation.

I agree with regard to Paul Sprain. The jury is still out concerning his claims. Something much more interesting happened recently, however. Wesley Snyder demonstrated in a video the functioning of a self-sustaining device. Is Wesley Snyder showing a real effect or not in his video?

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Re: Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2006, 04:49:41 PM »
berferd wrote:

"Sprain's device has nothing to do with "the zero point field".? It's just an arrangement of permanent magnets and an electromagnet."

Then what maintains the electron's magnetic spin moment?

Terry

 

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