Author Topic: Steven Marks secret (Read 308864 times)

Mannix · « **Reply #195 on:** October 20, 2009, 12:17:54 AM »

@whattsup
Great observations.

This device was well before he was silenced.

Do you think the magnet is "sticking" to the centre torriod?

or does it fall back when he inverts it?

wattsup · « **Reply #196 on:** October 20, 2009, 01:21:20 AM »

@Mannix

When he places the FTPU on the VCR, you can clearly see there are two metal terminals going out and up from the metal bracket base that holds the center toroid in place. SM puts the magnet on those two terminals so the magnet holds in place even when he turns over the FTPU. (See image below.)

The only thing that "falls" when he turns over the FTPU is the back end circuit that when turned overs falls into the palm of his hand, but that does not modify the device function.

You see, when he put the magnet and had the steady voltage reading, then he took off the magnet and the voltage fell gradually. Falling gradually to me means the circuit device is still functioning but not at a gain but simply losing .1 volts every few seconds.

Now when he turns it over, this time the voltage drops to his starting voltage of 12 volts. This confirms to me two things. That there is a base voltage and a second level voltage gain that is probably activated by a mercury switch used as a safety. If in trouble turn over the device. You could do that with a 10 foot pole if you wanted to stay away from the device.

The "I don't know why it does this" bit is simply an act to add some spice to the whole demo. "Wow, did you see that, it stopped when he turned it over, hmmmmmmm". Nice act. If the reason it did that was something inherent in the way the device worked (or had to work), then why did it not do it in his other devices. Because it was nothing to start with.

Added:

I am putting up a second image this time with the magnet in place.

Mark69 · « **Reply #197 on:** October 20, 2009, 01:23:15 AM »

what happened to SM?

Grumpy · « **Reply #198 on:** October 20, 2009, 01:39:09 AM »

Quote from: wattsup on October 20, 2009, 01:21:20 AM

The "I don't know why it does this" bit is simply an act to add some spice to the whole demo. "Wow, did you see that, it stopped when he turned it over, hmmmmmmm". Nice act. If the reason it did that was something inherent in the way the device worked (or had to work), then why did it not do it in his other devices. Because it was nothing to start with.

SM stated later in a video that the attitude of the device was no longer an issue. So, whatever caused it to turn off when flipped over was resolved.

If the TPU was somehow interacting with something outside of itself, then you may have to flip this soemthing over with the TPU to maintain the correct interaction. Earth has a magnetic field and an electric field.

It could be that the polarity of the output reversed and the control circuits block it (like a diode) when it was flipped over.

If you reverse the magnetic field of a homopolar generator, will the polarity of the output reverse? What if a diode is in the output circuit?

wattsup · « **Reply #199 on:** October 20, 2009, 02:16:32 AM »

@Grumpy

Good points but the voltage did not drop to zero, but to 12 volts. I also thought about a diode, turn over, internal current reversal that can't go through a diode and the meter reading falls to nothing, but to 12 volts, why would that be if there was a diode blocking the output?

Just got my manual for SMs meter. I'll look it over and report anything major.

sparks · « **Reply #200 on:** October 20, 2009, 03:24:39 AM »

Nice work Wattsup

Grumpy gives us another tidbit. Homepolar generator. Bearden would say rotating frames bend spacetime. But the rotation needs to be relative to something stationary. Like the axle of the homepolar generator and the observer brush. They both need to stay in flat spacetime along with the load. So if your rotating the aether or putting a depression in the spacetime grid what does that do. This has been experimentally verified many times by many scientists. What happens to massless pure inertia we call photons or emwaves when it encounters a bowl in the flat spactime grid?
What happens to a kid skateboarding a bowl? What happens to entire Solar Systems when they encounter a major depression in spacetime? ENERGY GETS SUCKED IN Photons alter their vectored stream. Light is bent. Gravity is created. Time is altered. Event horizons are created. Negative entrophy. Cold radiation. Shit that was happening here in observable radiated 3d time now happens somewhere else or at some other time. I have felt this happen. I felt myself radiate cold. Happened in a highvoltage dcpulsed field. At the very least the 50watts I was using was one hell of a good refridgeration system. Kelvin would have loved to have been there.

EMdevices · « **Reply #201 on:** October 20, 2009, 03:38:39 AM »

Quote from: Mark69 on October 20, 2009, 01:23:15 AM

what happened to SM?

SM was bankrupt and lost his Spherics business, and now lives in California in a semiretired financial situation. His seemingly "free-energy" device we call the TPU, was unsuccessfully peddled by others, and the few "rights" he had to it were sold to some guy in the Philippines, who never did anything with it either (because it doesn't work farther then a few feet away from power lines that carry HIGH CURRENTS). But SM is alive and well and can curse up a storm if you piss him off. Just listen to the voice message he left for Jack.

EM

sparks · « **Reply #202 on:** October 20, 2009, 04:35:44 AM »

The tpu intrigue. What an inspiration to us all. We know we have somekinda magnetic field rotation. We seem to be neglecting the polidial field. The plastic the black tape stuff. Tesla made a neat coil. He matched the capacitance and inductance of his coil so that any resonant activity didn't have to go too far. His bifilar pancake coil was a tuned resonant circuit in and of itself. Each turns capacitance and inductance matched perfectly. The input pulse stored in the coil never needing to loose power like when you have an rlc tank. Very little resistance when the current isn't flowing anywhere. Resonant circuits store highfrequency vibrations and are capable of converting hf low amplitude inputs into low frequency high amplitude circuits to drive motors and stuff like that. What frequency was Tesla tuning into when he drove his Packard around.
Infrared antennae tank and frequency converter would be nice. Now instead of dumping the carrier you store the carrier in a tank. Pretty soon your microvolt potential is in the 100's of volts. Energy is conserved as you take it and dump it out slowly in a 60hz signal. The current capacity all depends on how much mass you have in your collector antennae. If each atom of your antennae shakes of an electron you need one mole of atoms per amp. To drive a car around you need 30kva for any kinda performance. Say you have the motor rated at 500volts you will need 60amps. So the antennae is going to have at least 60moles of easily ionizable atoms. Hmmm. Or say there is a gas involved that is already ionized which is in evacuated tubes but acts as a charge carrier. Then you might get away with 12 rectifier tubes filled with ionized gas as a receiver of highfrequency low amplitude vibrations.

giantkiller · « **Reply #203 on:** October 20, 2009, 05:33:35 AM »

@wattsup,
What if the magnet was a poled keeper to 2 steel or iron posts with another magnet as a keeper on the other end. You would have a broken PMH till you put the top magnet on. Then the magnetic current would flow. Eh?

@sparks,
In the void of space between galaxies, protons abound and electrons are far and few between. But in a gravity well, like a galaxy where there are huge magnetic interactions, we have an abundance of electrons. When the protons and Flux meet we get electrons produced by the interaction of forces.The outcome are waves, standing waves which are electron shells. I got this today from subquantum kinetics.

--gk.

Grumpy · « **Reply #204 on:** October 20, 2009, 05:44:26 AM »

Quote from: wattsup on October 20, 2009, 02:16:32 AM

@Grumpy

Good points but the voltage did not drop to zero, but to 12 volts. I also thought about a diode, turn over, internal current reversal that can't go through a diode and the meter reading falls to nothing, but to 12 volts, why would that be if there was a diode blocking the output?

Just got my manual for SMs meter. I'll look it over and report anything major.

12v battery - then magnified - magnification stops when flipped - remember this is the bifilar method

12v could be a bias too

wattsup · « **Reply #205 on:** October 20, 2009, 07:28:53 AM »

@Grumpy

Yes, I agree, the 12 volts is the base, the magnification stops when turned, and it increases with the magnet on.

@GK

The only other magnet I could consider in the FTPU is the center toroid core itself.Maybe that would explain why SM did not want guys with pieces of metal near the toroids. But I do think your idea is very plausible.

@sparks

I think I discovered something else.

A few days ago I was watching a documentary on Peregrine Falcons. Good doc with great images of them when they fly real high up, spot their prey, then suddenly free-dive at 200 mph and hit their prey to knock it out, then return for the feast while the prey is in a daze state. Everything went very well until I saw a close up of the Falcons' nostrils. And then the SM analogy of finding the reason for Mach flight hit me. The nostrils have an inner cone. Without it, it would be impossible for the bird to breath at such high speeds. In fact this was the basis for making the cones on the air intakes of them high fly'in Mach machines.

Now consider again, we, I, you and your TPU is traveling 67kmph through universally present ether. How can you drag in ether at such speeds. Well a center toroid could be your center cone and the rings are your outer nostrils.

Those aviation engineers new that they were traveling through different densities of available air so they had a basis to start making calculations. So what do we have as a basis to make calculations as we and our Earth dives through space every second. We know the Earth pulses at 7.8, but what is the frequency of the Earth travel in space. What relation does this have with 5000 hertz. So what do we have. When we are born, we each get a free 67kmph travel ticket for life. That's it? No, there is more. We can add as a bonus, the speed of our Earth rotation, plus the speed the sun moves in space and drags our solar system along, plus the speed of our galaxy moving away or closer to other galaxies. If you add up all these speeds, and if you consider that all mass on Earth exchanges ether sites at such a speed, how can we take advantage of all this potential energy?

Luckily, ether is everywhere so it does not have to move, like air does not have to move. We have to move through ether, like water has to move through a turbine to turn a generator, like the Falcon has to move through air to make his kill.

What would knowing the frequency do. Well, you know when they hire these construction noise reduction companies because they are getting noise complaints because of incessant jack-hammering. Well they come in and play frequencies that will cancel the ambient noise, or mask it, like maybe shadow masking. Ring a bell. If you know the frequency of your travel through ether, and you can pulse at that frequency, you will neutralize the effect of the travel in that particular space, creating what. I don't know. Man. That I don't know.

forest · « **Reply #206 on:** October 20, 2009, 12:11:27 PM »

Maybe FTPU was simple and had only one collector on top.Effect was produced on top so when device was turned down collector was out of field.
Later SM added second collector, so there was two of them : one on top and one on bottom.Just an idea.

Grumpy · « **Reply #207 on:** October 20, 2009, 02:43:36 PM »

Could SM be rotating a magnetic vector potential?

The following field properties for an EMF induced by a changing magneitc vector potential are taken from Hooper's work with motional electric fields:

Field Properties:
(1) Spatially distributed energy
(2) Ã˜E = ds
(3) Curl E
(4) ?ab E = ds
(5) E =dV/ds Potential function
(6) Behavior with respect to shielding
(7) Div. E
(

Poisson's fundamental law with respect to the interior of conductors
(9) In conductors carrying current
(10) Inverse square law
(11) Spatial nature of field
(12) Relation to charges in it
(13) Field dependence
(14) Functional dependence on velocity.

The electric field induced by a changing magnetic vector potential: Et = -dA/dt ~
(1) KE2/8 pi ergs/cc
(2) / 0 in general
(3) = -dB/dt
(4) Not a constant. Dependent on the path of integration
(5) No
(6) Can be shielded with sufficient thickness of shielding
(7) = 0 always
(

Not obeyed
(9) Can drive a current without a potential drop along the wire
(10) No
(11) Continuous throughout space it occupies
(12) Charges within it do not distort the field
(13) Dependent upon another field
(14) ---.

Doug1 · « **Reply #208 on:** October 20, 2009, 03:18:48 PM »

This topic is riddled with speculations and theories some are even interesting. Mylow could have had all this if he was better at hiding the fishing line.
In the end if something can work to provide self sustained power it will be simple in action then humanized and turned into a mess. How ever it will have to function in it's basic form "simplistic". An act of leverage using an event or effect that exists in the natural cosmic plan of existence. A type of transformer with a duality. The lack of results would suggest that a change in windings is in order to make a more dynamic action far beyond a bifiller or a rodin.
"all those small wires add up"
Maybe the small wires are not even in view or detectable in any way. What leaves the load and goes to ground needs to have enough punch to cause the action or reaction to sustain itself and then some.Enough to require control to keep it from eating itself or burning up. Fits in a very small space or can be hidden within a part of the construction or is by it's nature an addition to the construction but not in plain sight and produces the physical feeling of a gyro. How many directions does a gyro move in? It toke 6 months to build? If he was working in the micro wave band and had to tune it just right maybe it was making him ill and required many breaks between working on it.

Mark69 · « **Reply #209 on:** October 20, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »

@ wattsup,

concerning your sound eliminating idea, I remember way back in physics class we did an experiment on this. We hit a tuning fork over a long tube of water, where there is a certain distance from the fork to the water. We could bounce the sound waves off the water back to the fork, which caused the cancellation of the sound. Though also, which I think will help this case, changing the distance from the fork to the water we were able to MAGNIFY the sound wave and make it louder. Perhaps this is what is happening in the TPU as well?

Also another question I have or solution, maybe an obstacle is that the wire is braided and you cant keep an exact distance because of this. What if you you unbraided wire more like house electric wire? Was braided wire originally used?

Mark

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