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Author Topic: Repulsion comments welcomed  (Read 2369 times)

Offline hoarybat

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Repulsion comments welcomed
« on: September 30, 2009, 02:04:54 AM »
FOUND THIS on the NET Searching magnet motors and repulsion:

Subject: RE: [energy2000 / energy 21) Re: New perendev replication
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I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss
Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its
level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't
reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the
popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most
expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they
are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will
run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic
motors".

The amount of energy used in manufacturing a magnet is typically 10
times what the magnet is capable of producing. More expensive magnets
are even less efficient. Add to this the losses in energy incurred by
these 33%-66% concept magnet devices themselves, and the energy consumed
in the overall manufacturing process is 20-25 times the energy you will
get out.

There are situations where these types of devices may be useful, but
they are not "free energy", nor do they represent any sort of
"overunity" phenomenon, nor any solution to the energy crisis.

> I'm still on the fence when it comes to magnet motors. I'de love to
> see one working! To that end i'm offering to cut free of charge
> whatever acrylic is needed on an laser engraver free of charge*.
> Rather than repeat something i've already posted, check out the
> message below.
>
> I've love to see one of these things run. I don't believe its
> theoretically impossible, i just don't have the time to figure out
> if it is possible. If anyone believes they have what it takes to
> make a magnet motor. I'm glad to help you build ones as long as i
> have the right to make as many as i can if successfully.

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If it is true the perendev device died due to repulsion this is sad because boy have I spent a lot of time for potentially nothing.  Maybe switching to attraction is better or is it met with the same result..   Thanks all

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Repulsion comments welcomed
« on: September 30, 2009, 02:04:54 AM »

Offline X00013

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Re: Repulsion comments welcomed
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 02:22:38 AM »
I would very much like to see a video docs of your claims, as would countfull others in our world.

Offline X00013

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Re: Repulsion comments welcomed
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 02:42:34 AM »
It really is a shame there isnt any good vids on yt docuin this, i have been contemplating such a feat and brown bagging it. It would nice as ice and cool by the pool for all pmm builders if there was such a personna to vid in out pull via vid. And dont use poser mags coated, bare, naked, with ceramic tooling, and round mags to boot,  that would b nice, words r just that. Just a dream

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Re: Repulsion comments welcomed
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 02:42:34 AM »
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