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Author Topic: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation  (Read 31671 times)

hartiberlin

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Have a look at some great research breakthrough
in converting ZPE into mechanical rotation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiC2IGLl90Q

Author: Prof. Dr. Claus W. Turtur University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig - Wolfenbüttel, GERMANY

Here are his scientific papers about it.

http://www.ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/turtur/FundE/English/

Well done.

Now this only needs to be scaled up and run by charged capacitors
or big  Electrets.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 01:07:58 AM »
I also found this fascinating.  I made a rotor from foil and was able to get rotation with a balloon, as indicated in his paper.

Thread below had quite a bit of discussion on this topic.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7723.msg189404#msg189404

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 09:17:33 AM »
Hi @all,

probably with 10KV it's easy make a elettrostatic motor :), but the COP is not > 1.



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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »
Regarding it being an electrostatic motor: Not correct. There is no electrostatic or electromagnetic electrical current flow in this device. Voltage is only the bias that allows ZPE to be utilized. This is proved by his earlier Papers where it ran the same, or even better, when in a vacuum.

Regarding it not being OU: Not necessarily always true (although Dr. Turtur's present design in the vid would appear to not be "OU").

The device is not "using" current from the supply: Only the Voltage Potential.... Meaning what ever losses that exist, are dependent on the power supply's design and efficiency. Even with a "no load" situation (as this is), it will waste some watts just operating through filter cap leakage, RC resistors, stray R, step-up transformer losses, etc.

What kinds of very simple "power supplies" do we know of that can generate several tens of K-V of long-lasting Potential with very little work needed.... But provide only milli-watts of actual power?

Since there is no actual current flow, the "watts" are not important here, only the "Volts". A Whimhurst, or even hair and a toy balloon should do it (if the atmosphere is dry enough).

Lol, or a kite and a key ;)

Hmm. Makes you wonder about other stuff: Like why certain semiconductors are so sensitive to static electricity... Could the static potential be triggering a "spike" of ZPE coming from the aether, manifesting itself as EM or ES energy and then burning the device out? Prolly not lol, but fun to think about ;)

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 05:56:56 PM »
A turning dielectric without perfect symmetry in an electrostatic fields connected to a voltage source will have an oscillating capacity and an oscillating charge - and there will be of course an oscillating current.
If we assume that there are pretty no perfect HV voltage sources - and that the response of the HV voltage source regulation circuit is not infinite fast - this regulation circuit might be responsilble for re-gauge.
Operating that thing from a charged cap would give immediate proof of concept.

If the thing turns from a state of higher capacity to a lower capacity state - it releases charge  to the supply - acts as source. If it turns from lower capacity state to higher capacity state - it draws current from the supply.

If u assume that the output impedance of the supply changes with output voltage (whats for sure) -  you can assume that 10kv is the threshold where the electrostatic force which keeps the thing on track against the water (the thing is frozen in its electrical minimum - but not balanced from swimming point of view) is exceeded.

So without proper current/voltage measurements _ or operation from a charged cap _ this is just another funny half-mechanical HV oscillator - powered from the negative resistance of the HV supply - which finally gets his power from mains.

(And we havent talked about the voltage supply internal losses yet)

The oscillation energy is transfered between the misbalanced wheel(potential energy) - and the charge.
If the output resistance of the voltage supply increases >=10kv - the mechnical potential energy stored is transfered into mechanical inertia. The resulting turn releases charge to the supply - means a negative current which results in a down regulating response of the HV voltage source - which adds an additional pull. If the wheel reaches the point of minimum capacity (all delta charge released) the current to the supply changes from minus to zero and the regulation circuit has to backup with a positive pulse to maintain the output voltage. If the involved time-constants fit - this pulse (which can also be seen as time interval with low output impedance) can be enough to move the wheel back to the state of maximum potential energy) - we have a perfect motor;-))





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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 07:12:12 PM »


What kinds of very simple "power supplies" do we know of that can generate several tens of K-V of long-lasting Potential with very little work needed....

A powerful electret.

If anybody still have the current email address from John Schnurer ( former teacher at Antioch college
and former owner of gravity.org site)
please send it to me.
He had designed a very good and powerful electret but I have lost his emails.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2009, 07:57:16 PM by hartiberlin »

fritz

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 11:28:02 PM »
A sufficient HV cap in parallel to the device under test - as well as the experiment carried out 2 times with two different power supplies would wipe away any doubt on my side.




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Xaero_Vincent

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 11:06:30 PM »
Several threads about this rotor already exist on this forum.

The rotor you see operating in the video is not "overunity" because its spinning in open air. Large voltage potentials in air can ionize air molecules at the tips of sharp conductors. This causes a thrust onto the vaned rotor blades. I have discussed this with Dr. Turtur and have read his publications, where he mentions ionic wind influence with rotors exposed to air. The power loss is great when operating at ambient pressure. In fact, power loss becomes unacceptably high even at voltages below the point of rotation.

The rotor must be placed inside a high-vacuum dielectric to stop the influence of ion thrusts. There and only then will the rotor allegedly operate with a COP greater than 1. Dr. Turtur's experiments and calculations conclude a much higher power output than power loss (over 50x) but only inside a laboratory vacuum chamber.

The technology may be revolutionary if its real but there is a very big catch. The power density from vacuum energy alone is very small; therefore a very large metal vacuum chambers and expensive rotary and turbo pumps are necessary. The power density is such that a machine capable of powering your home will require a vacuum chamber similar in size to NASA's.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1281.html

We can imagine such structures costing tens to hundreds of millions to build. Despite this, I'm still very interested in the technology.

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 12:09:01 AM »
I did a 5 minutes test in july : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VRDK5Ra-lg
at 38KV when it run  consumes 5-6mA
Forgive my English, I use the translator

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 02:07:50 AM »
Yeah... at atmospheric pressure the machine operates much like an electrostatic motor with ion assist. In air the energy from ion wind and electrostatic discharge is overwhelmingly greater than the pressure from vacuum energy oscillations.

Solid dielectrics wont do any good because they increase capacitance and weaken the electrostatic field. Vacuum is the ideal isolator for this machine but its worth experimenting other forms of dielectrics, such as compressed gasses or maybe oil--just in case.

Small scale experiments with COP > 1 can probably be conducted for under $5,000. You can probably pick up a high-powered rotary vacuum pump with an ultimate pressure capacity of 1 * 10 ^ -2/3 Torr for a few grand and buy a small pexiglass vacuum chamber for $500-1000. You might be able to build a machine of a few watts with such an investment. Of course this doesn't include the cost of buying or building the generator that will covert rotation to electrical power.

I told Dr. Turtur that my long term goals will be to build such a machine and replicate his results. However, I have to invest my money in more important things right now. I can't yet blow $10K to build a machine that can power a few light bulbs.

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 06:29:33 PM »
This only proves Stanley Meyer was right!
Just lock and hold tight the electrons and let voltage be on the output, then switch on off this electrostatic field corresponding to the waters mechanical resonant freq.

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 06:41:44 PM »
i would like to run some tests using a wimshurst machine.
i can easily develop a 30Kv potential with very little input energy.

does we know how the "fins" are arranged on the spinning cup to produce rotational motion?

seems like its just made from an aluminum can. replication is probably not very difficult.

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »
test

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Re: Prof. Tutor shows Zero Point energy extraction into mechanical rotation
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 09:14:16 PM »
I have heard of mineral oil being used for homemade capacitors.Triffid