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gravityblock

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Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« on: September 22, 2009, 09:44:00 PM »
Researchers have for the first time observed magnetic monopoles and how they emerge in a real material, http://www.physorg.com/news171209923.html

Here's an article on peswiki which says the observed magnetic monopoles corroborates Quantum Ring Theory, http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Magnetic_monopole_-_new_experiment_corroborates_Quantum_Ring_Theory

I'm attaching a photo on how to create a magnetic monopole according to Lee Valstad on the peswiki link mentioned above.  He says it produces a true monopole field, one with two poles both of which are the same charge.  I haven't done much research on this, so I would like to hear your thoughts on the Valstad Coil.  Could it be possible to create a true monopole field using the Valstad Coil?


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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 02:38:56 AM »
Looked around a bit couldn't find any info yet, looks easy to replicate
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sm0ky2

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 03:41:55 AM »
you know......


Ed proposed this theory, at least a decade before Dirac. and noone gives him any credit...

now science is finally catching up and proving everything he said to be true.

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Doug56

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 04:01:08 AM »
Apparently the Rodin coil can also produce monople permanent magnet. Very interesting!

See the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bhs-Bv9HSk
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sm0ky2

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 05:02:11 AM »
Quote from: Doug56 on September 23, 2009, 04:01:08 AM
Apparently the Rodin coil can also produce monople permanent magnet. Very interesting!

See the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bhs-Bv9HSk

what this coil is doing is not actually creating a monopole. but rather simulating one, by concentrically magnetizing the material, in such a way that the south pole is enclosed inside the north.

this creates a magnet with only one outwardly detectable "pole"
because its opposite pole is on the inside.

this can be done with spheres, to create an "all north" or "all south" sphere magnet.
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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 09:42:15 AM »
Quote from: sm0ky2 on September 24, 2009, 05:02:11 AM
what this coil is doing is not actually creating a monopole. but rather simulating one, by concentrically magnetizing the material, in such a way that the south pole is enclosed inside the north.

this creates a magnet with only one outwardly detectable "pole"
because its opposite pole is on the inside.

this can be done with spheres, to create an "all north" or "all south" sphere magnet.


And How it happens? i mean how the rodincoil is doing it?
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pese

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 11:12:55 AM »
over 50 years ago
leedskalnin say it also.
But "nobody" have understand him exactly (?)

See here
http://www.google.de/#hl=de&ei=aTe7Ssz9HYmEmgPLkom5DQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=leedskalnin+magnetic+monopole&spell=1&fp=8fee3db28befc153


Give also attention to :
R. de Bibhas

http://www.bibhasde.com/sfms.html

here you find some more interesting links
http://gpese.stormloader.com/pic/Magnetfield%20%2010.html

contact: http://beam.to/zPE
Gustav Pese Trier Germany
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Doug56

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 02:24:26 PM »
See below the Ed Leedskalnin's monopole magnet in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QWtQ9-nMM
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spoondini

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 10:42:51 PM »
So what are the ultimate applications for monopole magnets?  Think big.
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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 09:05:48 PM »
Quote from: sm0ky2 on September 24, 2009, 05:02:11 AM

this can be done with spheres, to create an "all north" or "all south" sphere magnet.


As far as I know, this is not possible. If you make a hollow sphere magnet with N on the outer surface and S on the inner, you will get a zero field intensity outside. That is, the magnet will completely shield itself and will appear unmagnetized.
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Omega_0

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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 09:14:56 PM »
Quote from: gravityblock on September 22, 2009, 09:44:00 PM

Researchers have for the first time observed magnetic monopoles and how they emerge in a real material, http://www.physorg.com/news171209923.html


These days, the scientific journalism produces the real free energy, that is, more heat than light. Most attempt to sell their stories with highly sensationalist headlines and twisted bodies of facts.

Unfortunately, there are no magnetic monopoles, just like there is no free lunch.

If you see the diagram of "strings" and read the user comments, you will see that they are talking about virtual monopoles, something that is made up of a very long string of dipoles. They did not find a real monopole.

If you take a very long magnet, the effect of the other pole at N-pole side is very weak. If you make it flexible, you can say that you have two monopoles, and moving one hardly affects the other. But you know in your heart that its merely words....

You can make apparent monopole at home by shielding or by an arrangement where the other pole is far away or distributed over a larger volume. You will still get a sticky spot. :(
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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 09:43:16 PM »
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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 07:50:02 AM »
"Researchers have discovered a magnetic equivalent to electricity: single magnetic charges that can behave and interact like electrical ones."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8307804.stm
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Re: Magnetic monopoles detected in a real magnet
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 08:44:23 PM »
@Nihilanth - That link almost deserves it's own thread.  We are talking about net charge and not a result of chained dipoles...There is something significant here.

@Omega - I think there is more here than your analogy of long dipoles.  The actual research papers are the best to read and most of the comments are opinions of people who are far from the research.  These results are not equivalent to making a monopole from long dipoles.  Don't let the picture confuse you into thinking that is what is begin revealed here.  There is a lot if really exciting research utilizing the pyrochlore-lattice which is generating a lot of excitement.  We should expect to hear more announcements as many researchers have entered this field.

Yesterday, I walked out of my office and they were giving away food---dare I say a free lunch?

Yes, I know this can't exist and I am a smart guy, so it intrigued me...more so because I didn't receive anything from anyone or even talk one word with anyone.  Just walked up grabbed my free lunch and left.  But I guess you are going to tell me that it wasn't free because there is some complicated offset of my work to grab the food and we start to redefine what "free" means or something... to which I talk about occam's razor...and then you counter with a witty comeback about how complicated the monopole experiment is...

BUT I ate a free lunch yesterday and it was good...."no strings attached"
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