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rotaryfcg

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Re: Romanian SECRET Technology which WORKED ! Lots of OU.
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2009, 03:08:43 PM »
it took me 2 hours to get that rar.after seeing it ... it's a waste of time.

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Re: Romanian SECRET Technology which WORKED ! Lots of OU.
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2009, 06:09:14 PM »
It's not a total waste, but it has nothing more on the magnet motor sorry to say ;(

And the info on the fascinating "Sonic Motor" is limited only to some jpeg's (it was invented in World War One??) .

I think the problem with the RAR is, it appears to stream at a little less than 10k b/s .

The file has many cool old inventions that "Rex Research" would be interested in, tho ;)

Mr. Lucian, do you by chance have any photos of the magnet motor (either the original, or your replication)?

Thank you for sharing this info.

Best Regards,

Steve Windisch
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Lucian Stefan

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« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2009, 06:27:10 PM »
I’ve posted on the forum just because I was asked this by an e-mail.

Someone asked me about the engine of eng. Moraru and I decided to post the public patent from 1995.

From the first sentence of the first message posted, I stated that I do not want to participate in discussions on this forum, but only to meet those demands. For sometime I keep out of participation in online discussions, because every time I reach the same result, the same dead line.The problem is that on the Internet and generally in public sources of information, are publicly available just certain information about the unconventional technologies, while in reality the scientific and technical information are completely different. You will find on the internet tons of comments about Nikola Tesla, Henri Coanda, Viktor Schauberger, George "Gogu" Constantinescu and many others, but you never could find  the real and complete technical information on their inventions and applications of these inventions. Furthermore, patents and other official documents do not contain anything other than the presentation of general principles, otherwise the schemes and devices submitted are incomplete or even false. For example all that is about Schauberger is FALSE, speculation without scientific support, sometimes even gross mistakes .Of his patents, open access is only to those which do not show much. It is obvious that everyone will try to emulate devices invented by Tesla, Coanda, Schauberger or other inventors who had special works, will fail in his attempt.
 A complete failure or at best getting some weaker performance than those claimed by the inventor himself. In this situation there are many inventions in the field of OverUnity which otherwise are found freely on the Internet and in various databases. Also the case of the generator of Michel Meyer. I pointed out that the principle applied by Meyer is correct and functional, but that does not mean that the complete technology of that device you'll could find free somewhere…
I claim that I know what they did in reality all these inventors, and I even know this. But my information are part of legal “know-how” with a clear legal status. Datas are part of my activity and of my business, and not doing object of donations or charitable works. Moreover, on many of my documents, I have no right of ownership so I can not freely dispose of them. Plans and my work is for applications restricted, to discrete regime. Can I talk on the forums, no one forbids it to me-but I always talk with partners who will end up by asking me to give them detailed informations that I am not allowed to declassify, not having this competence and the authority to do something like that.
 Some people offer me money but I never ask that. A Romanian senator asked me few weeks ago why I talk about all that inventions if  I don’t publish finally anything… Because the people must know certain information that would serve as the starting point to discover the truth through its own- see the patents of Moraru, Comstantinescu, Huguenard or Guillot and the list is still much longger.. Not everyone but a few people will finally get real results. The people who have good knowledge of physics and engineering and the ability to do calculations and tests; those who do not expect to find ready-made results and who work with perseverance in the scientific research.

On internet forums, the people expect to take the ready-made results of the scientific research made by collectives of engineering researchers in tens of years of secret activity. And here we enter each time on a dead line...  

Therefore my participation in discussions on the Internet is completely inappropriate-in which case I withdrew from discussions on all forums. It is best to remain in my small circle of my affairs.
Unconventional technologies are a reality, but unfortunately a reality not tangible by the general public. Maybe this economic crisis or a major crisis (like a war) would occur in the near future, and will force removal of the light for all the secret technologies. For good. Only major events can make this change in the world. Read carefully the text of the Nicolae Moraru’s patent, because it gives some very ingenious solutions-that patent (public) is only a glimpse of a technical-scientific creation much more important, that still not become in public domain. As usual, the text does not give the complete schemes to achieve the real engine but a general principle of functioning.

From principle to good efficiency applications, is a long way that not everyone will succeed in a cross.

EMdevices

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Re: Romanian SECRET Technology which WORKED ! Lots of OU.
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2009, 06:57:18 PM »
Lucian,

I appreciate whatever information you can provide, and I hope you don't get yourself into trouble publishing what you are not supposed to not publish.  You probably work for the Romanian Patent Office and have access to all the patent databases, being a lawyer/attorney.   (patent = brevete)

Thank you for the information you have provided. 

I have done some research and spoke with a former engineer that PERSONALLY MET WITH NICU MORARU in the early 80's,  and this gentlemen also had an invention that was confiscated by the "Division IV of the SECURITATE",  which deals with scientific information, and "contra informati"  or COUNTER INTELLIGENCE.   

He also told me about the so called "geophysical" weapon you mentioned,   the whole Romanian country talked about that weapon and bragged about it, and as a result this story became embellished and developed into something belonging to SciFi, but in reality it was nothing more then anti-tank missiles obtained from the Nazi's, (with some improvements by the Romanians, I'm sure) and they only shot at 4 or 5 Russian tanks and completely melted them, since these were armor piercing missiles with a high caloric content that melted the armor steel from the inside out.  (possible phosphor and magnesium added to the warhead payload, my guess)  These frightened the Russians who did not expect any resistance from the Romanians and abandoned their plans of invasion.   

If I may make a comment about the motor you posted.   This motor is a variable reluctance motor in 3 stages.  The patent does not say how to switch the power to the modules, but anybody who is knowledgeable about motors can figure it out.   You basically power one set and the rotor attracts itself to maximize the magnetic energy and to close the air gap,  then you disconnect and recover the energy from the kick back, then at the same instant you power up the next module or section and the motor attracts itself to the next angular position, etc...   This is nothing more then a type of STEPPER motor, but in a different configuration.  Nothing new, and not over unity.   The basic claim is that it does away with the commutator and brushes, and hence won't have any sparks at the brushes and therefore can be used in a medium where there are combustible gases surrounding it, so it won't light them off.  He does claim an efficiency above the DC motor, but does not say how much.

My contact did not think highly of Nicu Moraru, as you seem to think.   He said he just rehashed old ideas.  He said,  "Romanians are not the smartest in the world, as we would like to think, years of communism has brainwashed us to think were the smartest and greatest in the world, nothing but worthless propaganda."   

Anyway, I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I don't see anything new that hasn't been tried before.

Just my comments for whatever they're worth.

EM
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 08:34:10 PM by EMdevices »

Lucian Stefan

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« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2009, 08:11:35 PM »
Dear "EMdevices" (or "Paul" maybe...),

First of all, as miscellaneous, I would like to mention that my predecessors (for instance grandfather and his cousin) had high positions within the Communist regime, even in the office of President Nicolae Ceusescu.

I know very well what did Nicolae Moraru in secret and public regime and I possess full documentation of all his research activity. Indeed, the Directia a IV-a a Securitatii Statului (in fact Serviciul de Contraspionaj) seized all the documentation and the demonstration models made by Moraru and his team of research-engineers. That is why these documents can not be found in public data bases, not even at the National Office for Inventions and Trademarks Patents in Bucharest.

 I do not have special relationship to the Patent Office in Bucharest,- their databases do not contain nothing special, all that is truly special is in other databases.



On your comments about the patent posted here :
- I haven’t said that it would be the"pure magnetic energy engine" but I’ve said that is just a improved model of the classic electric motor;  improved enough to deserve being posted to the OverUnity;
 - on your comments about the engine performance, you are wrong.

Because in the First of October my vacation ends, I will have no time for discussion . Please do not ask for my intervention anymore.

Each is free to believe what he want to believe and to comment as he considers appropriate, but it need not to announce me about that ...

Thank you for understanding. I wish you success.

LCS

EMdevices

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« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2009, 08:54:25 PM »
@ Lucian,

I sent you a personal message.

Also, I want to comment on this paragraphs:

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On your comments about the patent posted here :
- I haven’t said that it would be the"pure magnetic energy engine" but I’ve said that is just a improved model of the classic electric motor;  improved enough to deserve being posted to the OverUnity;
 - on your comments about the engine performance, you are wrong.

Yes I agree, it deserves posting on overunity.com, please don't take offense.  In addition,  I want to ask why I am wrong about the engine performance.  I was mainly stating what somebody translated for me from the patent.  It doesn't say what the performance is specificaly.   

Can you tell us exactly what this performance is, or should be?

EM

Lucian Stefan

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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2009, 01:13:27 AM »
Seems to be something simple, almost rudimentary. Seems to be a step-by-step engine or somethimg like a variable reluctance engine- but in fact is neither one nor the other... In fact, the patent does nothing more than to describe a certain PRINCIPLE. That is THE ONLY public patent of Moraru engines.

The invention relates to a rotary electric motor, powered by electric continuous current taken supplied by electrical batteries, or by converting from the current of public networks and industrial power supply. This type of engine, original, can be used in all activities which is currently used in conventional engines known, DC or AC. They are known electric rotary machines (engines) and DC, AC single phase and triphasic, the development of mechanical work being made by the rotor winding with electrical conductors, generally the copper winding ends being welded to the collector on that slides the carbon brushes to transmit electric current for winding, to create magnetic field on rotor. The purpose of the invention consists in simplifying the industrial manufacture, reducing raw material consumption and workmanship, complete removal of the winding on rotor, also eliminates the collector and slide system, and achieve significant savings in energy consumption, to use these machines in industrial and domestic activities.
Electric rotary machines, according to the invention, remove the rotor windings, collector and system slide which is a substantial economic disadvantage to the industrial production of electric motors today.
DC electric rotary machines, according to the invention, removes the disadvantages mentioned in that it is provided with external electromagnets fixed to the casing-state and internal electromagnetic fixed to the yoke which make the closing of magnetic flux lines. Between the exterior and interior electromagnets are the magnetized ring conductors that replace electric conductors. Magnetic conductors are made of siliceous material or ferrous magnetic material. Electromagnets interior and exterior are excited using excitation coils made by winding on the pole pieces, the coils being supplied with DC electricity taken from a battery or from AC public poer supply line and converted in DC.
By applying the invention, are obtained following advantages:
-simplify construction by reducing the time of manufacture;
-economy by replacing the copper winding of the rotor and the collector,
-creates the condition for use in explosive gas environment, by eliminating the collector and slide system ,
-the reduced consumption of electricity, because the concept of using magnetic conductors and the electric conductors being substituted in the sense that in the calculation of new types of electric cars, according to the invention, no longer uses the formula that shows that power in watts is equal to the intensity multiplied by the voltage, this formula being replaced by the notion that driving force is based on electro-magnetic induction created by lines of magnetic flux applied to the polar surface.
 It still gives an example of realization of the invention, in connection with Figures 1 and 2 that represent:
 - Figure 1, longitudinal section through the entire assembly,
- Figure 2, which defines cross-sections of the R, S and T modules being offset each over at 120 degrees.
Electric rotary machines of continous current without collector, according to the invention, consists of three modules marked with letters R. S and T, each module is composed of two halves in the form of semi-disc, mechanically coupled between them, having excitation coils connected in series, parallel or mixed, by considerations.
Pole pieces are offset each other at 120 degrees, each of the three spinning rotors is rotating between magnetic fields of attraction and repulsion flows created by modules R, S and T. The continous current rotating electrical machine according to the invention, is composed of shell 1 which supports the entire assembly consisting of outer pole pieces 2, on which is the excitation winding 3, 4 is the yoke for closing lines of magnetic flux between pole pieces 2 and  inner polar pieces 5, excited by the coil 6. Shields 7 to 8 and bushes camps 9 form systems of protection and sliding for the shaft 10, on which are fixed the rotors 11 which will support the magnetic conductors 12, causing hardening of the rotor through the nuts 13 and spacers 14, the caps 15 slipped protecting system.

EMdevices

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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2009, 03:21:05 AM »
Here is a professional translation of the Moraru motor patent.
 
I hope you all are grateful for the time I spent in formatting it so it looks nice.

EM

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=343
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 03:48:50 AM by EMdevices »

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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2009, 09:23:55 AM »
He also told me about the so called "geophysical" weapon you mentioned,   the whole Romanian country talked about that weapon and bragged about it, and as a result this story became embellished and developed into something belonging to SciFi, but in reality it was nothing more then anti-tank missiles obtained from the Nazi's, (with some improvements by the Romanians, I'm sure) and they only shot at 4 or 5 Russian tanks and completely melted them, since these were armor piercing missiles with a high caloric content that melted the armor steel from the inside out.  (possible phosphor and magnesium added to the warhead payload, my guess)  These frightened the Russians who did not expect any resistance from the Romanians and abandoned their plans of invasion.   
that weapon you mention here was a hydrogen-fluoride high impulse laser and by the way the first hydrogen-chloride impulse laser was developed by Coanda.The Russians were frightened because just 3 mobile laser units with one mobile power generating unit were capable to hold a tank division.don't ask how do i know this, take it for granted ... or not, but it's real.

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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2009, 12:15:57 PM »
that weapon you mention here was a hydrogen-fluoride high impulse laser and by the way the first hydrogen-chloride impulse laser was developed by Coanda.The Russians were frightened because just 3 mobile laser units with one mobile power generating unit were capable to hold a tank division.don't ask how do i know this, take it for granted ... or not, but it's real.

I don't ask you "how do You know this", because... You know nothing.
Henri Coanda return in Romania beggining with 1969, one year AFTER the romano-soviet conflict from august 1968. Coanda work in Romania from 1970 until his death in 1972. The Tesla-Muraro supreme weapon was been achieved beggining with march 1963 and had no connection with the laser technics. That weapon was been used in 1968, and it VAPORIZED two soviet armored vehicles and a "pathfinder" aircraft. The research file was been recorded as 46150/1963 from Nicolae Moraru, Nicolae Tiureanu and Romulus Murg. Its title- "Installation and process for Electronic Air Defense". Nothing to do with laser technology or Coanda.

This activity in this special program was controled by the Military Counterintelligence; one of the main tasks of the Counterintelligence Service is to make a fake story in the course of what ordinary is called "the informative  intoxication". So was born later the story about the "lasers of Coanda", although an elementary research on this story proves it is anachronistic...

Please, when you post speculations- mention this, or the simple mention- "in my opinion" or "I think that...". I don't have an opinion and I think nothing about the Tesla-Moraru Weapon, I HAVE THE COMPLETE AND ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 08:13:47 PM by Lucian Stefan »

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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2009, 02:22:10 PM »
Is the fig.1 a cutted view of fig.2 ? Because i don't understand on the fig.1, the piece 2 and 5 should be the same "ring" but they are not on fig.2. And if i cut fig.2 to draw fig.1 in my mind, some "rings" are missing on fig.1.
Maybe i just have missed something but i can't understand the complete draw. I am the only one ?

Lucian Stefan

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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2009, 07:52:40 PM »

And the info on the fascinating "Sonic Motor" is limited only to some jpeg's (it was invented in World War One??) .
Steve Windisch
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Constantinescu's sonic engine patents. Link : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E062ODEP

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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2009, 08:09:52 PM »
Engine drawings :

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« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2009, 08:12:12 PM »
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