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### Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 318688 times)

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2009, 05:34:51 AM »
Jim,
Ooh, I see what you mean..  Good point.
But Iâ€™m not able to add that function into the YOG.
The YOG is global patent pending and that function will resemble too close to the 2 stage oscillator. I donâ€™t want to be infringing on his patent.
Besides I think mine works better then his!

The YOG center of gravity is suppose to shift, thatâ€™s what allows the leverâ€™s drive magnetic to return back onto the magnetic array and also allows the weight of the lower pendulum that is a lot greater to come back down turning the turbine

Otherwise the law, Conservation of Energy would suggest that entropy would keep it from working.
Not really? I heard that word use in two ways.
If itâ€™s used as thermodynamics then it does not apply.
If itâ€™s used to refer as â€œslowing downâ€ then thatâ€™s not a problem.
Because the kinetic energy of the pendulum and the magnetic push of the magnetic array will launch the drive magnet out. Then the next cycle repeats.

Any loss of kinetic and potential energy due to air resistance, bearings, turbine load and what ever can be think of. Gets replenish when the drive magnetic goes through the magnetic array.

Howard

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2009, 09:26:59 AM »
Hi Jim,
Iâ€™m not familiar with the Mag-Lev and Johann Bessler work too much, But I will look into it a little more to catch up.

To those who are building the YOG for testing, I want to point out that the HJ track has different versions.

If you decide to build the round and square gate looking array. That array only goes one way but it has a stronger force then the bi-directional array. You will need to rotate 180 degrees out of the array vertically. So that the return swing will have the drive magnet out of the array to swing freely back.

If you decide to build the bi-directional array where the array magnets are all north. Then continue as I was explaining to rotate 180 degrees horizontally.

Either way will work just as goodâ€¦.

I will be on a trip and will answer questions upon my return whenever that may be.

Howard

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2009, 01:17:56 PM »

For the readers who have decided to build the YOG for testing.

There is a way replace the input source electricity.

This can be achieved by removing the servo and adding a Tail Vane instead. This method will allow for basic aerodynamics to do the work.

In order to allow the tail vane below the drive magnet to rotate 180 degrees. You will need to add a bearing, so it can change the orientation of the drive magnet facing towards the magnetic array. If you happen to choose an array that tries to turns the drive magnet. You will need to add guide rails next to the tail vane to keep it true.
Note: this will only work for a bi-directional arrays.

I am almost completed with this test unit using the tail vane. That I originally had plans for teachers and educators. Hopefully in the coming weeks it will be ready for videoing.

Howard

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2009, 01:23:17 AM »
To all,

Here is my latest video. Showing how the YOG gains energy from magnets.

This is just an analysis of the YOGâ€™s one cycle.

Enjoy

Howard

#### spoondini

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2009, 02:19:46 AM »
Howard,
I see themerit in your plan.  I believe it possible to use gravity to reverse the direction of the magnet on the end of the lever.  I can't express to well in words, but if the magnet is mounted on a rotating plate with a weight behind it, at the end of each cycle the weight would continue moving forward thereby rotating the plate and reversing the direction of the magnet preparing it to pick up energy on the next cycle.

A little wary of the fact your already taking orders on your website before a working model has been demonstrated.  It's a neat idea but a quick way to loose street credibility.

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2009, 02:59:56 AM »
Spoondini,
Iâ€™m not sure what you mean about the plate? The original OU YOG uses a servo to orientate the drive magnet direction. The Tail Vane method allows for aerodynamics and acts like a guide to keep the drive magnet from turning while in the array. Depending on the array of course.

Iâ€™m not talking orders on the Overunity model. Iâ€™m talking orders for the Wind and Wave YOG models. There is no mention about Overunity at my website for some of the same reasons you have mentioned.
Itâ€™s hard enough getting into the renewable energy industry as it is without mentioning OU.

But itâ€™s good that you see the merits of the Overunity YOG model. I still have yet to try some other concepts for an actuator. Some that I wonder are the Tri-gate, V ramp, and SMOT devices? I havenâ€™t had much luck with Perendev methods yet.

Howard

#### spoondini

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2009, 04:02:00 AM »
I was also thinking about smot like devices in this design.  I'm not sure if it will ultimately work because what were essentially taliking about is a magnetic gate, and these don't really exist.  It requires as much energy (actually more) to position at the trigger point than imparted by the gate.

I still think your on to something.

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2009, 10:04:36 PM »
Spoondini,
Weâ€™ll itâ€™s just something I may be looking into in the future.
As for magnetic gates not existing. What is your definition of it ? How are you basing on.

@all
Iâ€™m also posting at the EF renewable energy forum too.

Howard

#### spoondini

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2009, 11:52:54 PM »
Magnetic gates meaning unidirectional magnetic acceleration with free entry, these don't exist (yet?).  If it did, you could simply build a rotor with a permanent maget one of those nifty trigates to continously accelerate.  I think it would be a waste of time (my oppinion).

With respect to your device, I was thinking smot like because the reason smots haven't been closed is because of the inability to return the ball to it's starting point.  By using a pendulum to 'catch' the ball, mechanical/gravity device to spin it around and align for a return pass across a different smot (parallell but opposite), could we possibly close the loop and get energy out of magnets?

Please take this as a voice of reality as opposed to pessism, but I 'think' there will be a repelling magnetic force near the entry to the smot/gate which will negate the energy gained through the acceleration.

Can you sketch out ur current mag setup on top the pendulum?

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2009, 05:09:30 AM »
Magnetic gates meaning unidirectional magnetic acceleration with free entry, these don't exist (yet?).  If it did, you could simply build a rotor with a permanent maget one of those nifty trigates to continously accelerate.  I think it would be a waste of time (my oppinion).

Spoondini,
Well I like to give it a try â€¦.

With respect to your device, I was thinking smot like because the reason smots haven't been closed is because of the inability to return the ball to it's starting point.  By using a pendulum to 'catch' the ball, mechanical/gravity device to spin it around and align for a return pass across a different smot (parallell but opposite), could we possibly close the loop and get energy out of magnets?

Please take this as a voice of reality as opposed to pessism, but I 'think' there will be a repelling magnetic force near the entry to the smot/gate which will negate the energy gained through the acceleration.

I see it too but my original thinking was to have the arc closer to the fulcrum of the YOG. That way the ball enters and exit out of the array past the mouth. Itâ€™s almost like dropping the ball a quarter in the array and then having the ball drop out a quarter before the end of the array.

I notice when magnets are close together the electrons seem to bleed over to the neighbor magnets and concrete at the ends of the array.

A Gyro looking like device may be used instead of a ball. It looks like one of those arcade game room rides where the child straps into the center and spins around all axis.

I hate to switch directions but it is tempting for me to test it â€¦.

Can you sketch out ur current mag setup on top the pendulum?

Sure, for the readers of this tread, this picture is what I used in my proof of concept that energy can be harness from magnets.

Attached is a drawing of the array. I do get resistance entering into the array. Itâ€™s the â€œlittle wheel big wheel effectâ€. Further adjustments on this will increase the amount of energy captured from magnets.

Also notice how I use the iron as a flux extension. The HJ banana shape brings the counter flux spin too close for my preference.

Enjoy
Howard

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2009, 11:32:31 PM »
After reading a little bit more into SMOT. It seems that they work â€œone-wayâ€ not â€œBi-Directionalâ€ thatâ€™s too bad.

Howard

#### broli

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2009, 06:51:11 PM »
Great work, we need more guys like you in the forum...sharing theory, building and documenting experiment.

I would recommend you keep the flipping mechanism purely mechanic. Putting a servo up there and powering it by energy from the setup can become very tricky unless you think otherwise. spoodini's idea could help by using a small overbalancing weight of some sort.

Below you can see a rendition. Each wheel is a sequence in time. When the magnet hits the fartest point the small overbalanced weight is allowed to  drop thus rotating the magnet with it. I recommend a lock mechanism, so the overbalanced weight does not shift or act funny while the magnet has still not reached the sides.

#### WattBuilder

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2009, 02:02:42 PM »
Thanks Broil,
Yeah, the counter weight would work but the tail vane has weight too, and helps with the over rotate. Also allows for greater range for the glide rails to keep it straight during a pass.

Super rendition drawing. As you can see at my website Iâ€™m horrible at drawing. Good thing you have posted that.

I was waiting for the right time to point out that when you have them in a modular array like that, next to each other. You get an Engine

Howard

#### broli

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2009, 02:37:29 AM »
It's the least I could do. People who understand the spirit of this forum need to be supported. You seem to be very near to a working device.

#### onthecuttingedge2005

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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2009, 09:12:48 AM »
Hi WattBuilder.

I was studying variances of your model, however I could not get your model to perpetuate.

However, after close study of my last variance model which I call a Chaos Accelerator Pendulum, under heavy air resistance and under electrostatic potentials this model continues to perpetuate non stop.

it will try to center itself but the attraction of the chaos pendulum causes the setup to over balance and get highly attracted to the keyed slot attractor and causes the Chaos Pendulum to accelerate to a very good potential which flings the keyed slot attractor away at high velocity.

the process has continued to function non stop for 3 hours of testing. I even let both attractors start at dead center, they which eventually off balance the pendulum which causes it to accelerate past the key slot attractor.

note:
I had 'objects do not collide' under preferences turned on to avoid both attractors from hitting each other.

the two blocks on each end are just a source of repulsion for the key slot attractor to prevent it from leaving the screen.

it may be an anomaly but if anyone can confirm my experiment I would appreciate it, thanks.

the model was tested with Working Model 2D software.

Jerry