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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 212976 times)

Offline happyfunball

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #330 on: March 04, 2010, 06:50:05 PM »
To be fair, it’s not so much the set up of the array that I give HJ credit for on the YOG array. It’s more relates to the work he has done with the spins that magnets have.


In the past when I was studying HJ’s work, I set up a box configuration like an up side down “U” shape array. That kind of mimics the circle portion of the HJ square & round gate. I then placed many magnets side by side with the north’s facing out towards the train like the HJ gate. What I found was when the trains north faces the north’s opening of the array, It does attract. The array sucks the train right in and stops at the transition point from square to round.

The result from that test is what I have on the YOG now and still can be improved.

Howard

Interesting thanks

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #331 on: March 05, 2010, 02:22:59 AM »
There is a video someone posted either on this form or another one that has a guy demo one of HJ's toy train systems.  The train also had a "sticky" spot just before it enters the array - I think this is pretty normal.

Howard (Yu) I can see how your system works, I like it.  The point where the pendulum has max potential energy is basically the same spot that the "sticky" point is located.  The gravity (due to the weight) is strong enough to overcome this spot and during the kinetic energy cycle the weight gains speed.  The reversal ensures that the energy gained during the kinetic cycle isn't taken away.

Now I am interested to see how it performs when the pendulum magnet is not unbalanced because this will show how much energy is added via the magnetic interactions.  If you replaced the pendulum magnet with just a weight, keeping it unbalanced, then the pendulum would still increase in energy because you basically have a swing and your parametrically pumping the energy using the battery (just like a kid shifts his center of mass to keep swinging).  Separating the two will let you know how much energy you can extract from the magnets.

Assuming you connect a generator to the pivot, you only want to load it enough to extract the access energy gained from the magnets.  Any more would over damp the system and make it act under unity.  From that point it comes down to how strong can you make the magnet interactions to increase the energy (making the gap spacings closer while increasing the pendulum weight will probably do it - just guessing here).  If you really do get an energy gain from the magnets then this energy can be stored and reused to flip the servo - keeping itself going and proving a very large point that needs to be proven. 

Please forgive if these statements make me sound like I'm trying to be all knowing and over commanding.  I'm really asking a question as to if you think I am understanding your system or if I missed the mark completely - I'm also trying to give some helpful suggestions which you probably already tried.  I've had a long day and don't feel like rewording it to sound less pompous.

Charlie


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #332 on: March 06, 2010, 02:49:24 AM »

Not at all Charlie, it sounds good to me.   :)
But the circumference of the lower part of the YOG has the optimal point of energy extraction. It seems like you have a good grasp on the technology and it reads clear.

As for the moment my hands are full to do another video. I’m currently testing some parts I received and I will have some more parts coming in soon. “Hopefully”

Here’s a link to my YouTube channel where I have my videos hosted. Just in case you haven’t seen all of them.

http://www.youtube.com/WattBuilder

Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #332 on: March 06, 2010, 02:49:24 AM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #333 on: April 04, 2010, 03:38:08 PM »
news?

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #334 on: April 06, 2010, 12:21:36 AM »

news?

Well, not really much?    :-\
Lately I have been working a lot of extra hours to fund my research and also I’ve been relocating the test YOG to a new lab with a little bit more room.

To add, I will be modifying the test YOG at the new location due to using the buoyancy method. The extra weight it adds to the wooden frame may cause some safety issues that I rather get out of the way.

The new test YOG will be a lot stronger and scaled up on the lever ratio.    :)

I will try to use memory alloy to release the pin electrically for now. But the most importantly it will have clear energy output features for testing and public acceptance.

For now that’s it without posting ahead myself.

Regards,
Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #335 on: April 06, 2010, 07:41:29 PM »
Well, not really much?    :-\
Lately I have been working a lot of extra hours to fund my research and also I’ve been relocating the test YOG to a new lab with a little bit more room.

To add, I will be modifying the test YOG at the new location due to using the buoyancy method. The extra weight it adds to the wooden frame may cause some safety issues that I rather get out of the way.

The new test YOG will be a lot stronger and scaled up on the lever ratio.    :)

I will try to use memory alloy to release the pin electrically for now. But the most importantly it will have clear energy output features for testing and public acceptance.

For now that’s it without posting ahead myself.

Regards,
Howard

thanks howard for the update.
i really enjoyed watching all you videos and reading this WHOLE thread.
keep up the good work dude.
take care.

peace.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #336 on: April 30, 2010, 09:48:04 PM »


Hi ALL,

I’m just checking in and still working at it. 

Here’s what I’m working on now.

I have made some progress on finding out a better way to not use any electrical input for the YOG on the buoyancy method.

Instead of using the memory alloy to release the pin electrically, I have found when using dynamic braking it can be very advantageous.

The long lever will have a small motor as part of it, to hold it’s position during a cycle pass. When the drive magnet reaches the end of a cycle pass. I will use something like a reed switch to release the connection to the small motor. Allowing the buoyancy to turn the drive magnet unbalanced.

For those not familiar with braking a motor, It’s when you take the wire’s from a DC motor for example and short the two wires connecting them together. You create a field within the DC motor that will not allow the motor to turn anymore.

 So the connection on the reed switch is normally closed.


I will keep you guys posted as progress develops hopefully I get a break to spend more time on the YOG.

Many thanks all for your support !       :)

 Howard Yu


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #336 on: April 30, 2010, 09:48:04 PM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #337 on: May 01, 2010, 06:58:57 PM »
again, thank you for sharing your work!

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #338 on: May 05, 2010, 09:47:31 PM »
I think Bessler's Wheel is an over rated clock mechanism. nobody can get it to work but my clock works just fine. lol

sorry. I had to.

Jerry ;)

Jerry, nobody has the remotest idea what made the "bessler wheel" work, if work it did. Interpreting Bessler's work is some people's fun, some even believe, it's like theology or trying to translate Dead Sea scrolls when you only speak German. But it is a useful focal point for discussion about self running gravity and CF "powered" devices.

Regarding that Yu oscillating gizmo, I'd say do away with the magnets, up the weight and offset of the 180° "flag" weights, and you might be onto something.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #339 on: May 06, 2010, 06:24:56 PM »

Regarding that Yu oscillating gizmo, I'd say do away with the magnets, up the weight and offset of the 180° "flag" weights, and you might be onto something.


As an inventor, the thought has cross my mind for a gravity model for fun.
For now I am happy with the free energy the YOG provides as is.

Here are some of my thoughts on the gravity model.
The buoyancy method would be my pick and most of the functions are already their.

The potential issues when removing the magnetic array with the buoyancy method is the loss of gain kinetic energy. That will affect the time for the drive magnet to reach 180 degrees for a cycle pass.

Now I have been holding on to this solution to solve the potential time issue that I came up with for the magnetic array model. But I was waiting to see of I even needed it.

It’s actually a common feature in old clocks used as an escapement. I like to view it as a mechanical time delay. It’s when you have a string attached to the moving lever with a weight on the other end of the string. The YOG will be positioned between two poles.

So when the YOG makes a cycle pass and reaches its end of cycle. The string with the weighted end will swing horizontally over and wrap itself around the pole. Then after to unwrap itself to allow for the next cycle to repeat.

This wrapping and unwrapping of the string causes a mechanical delay that is adjustable to allow for the time that the buoyancy may need to rotate 180 Degrees. 

To conclude, the real energy is with the magnetic array for the benefit of mankind.


Howard Yu


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #340 on: May 06, 2010, 11:10:46 PM »
Hello everyone ...
Been following progress for this machine for a while and I'm very happy that things are going well so far!

One thing I had to ask so here I am :)

Are those strings gonna be at the most lower part of pendulum (just to be sure I understood correctly)? If so .. then from what I understood that would presume constant swinging amplitudes .. no? It might be hard to start the YOG?
As for time delay ... why not using larger air balloon and have that rotation to happen faster .. the same moment that top of the pendulum leaves magnet area, magnet switch would open and release AC motor/breaker mentioned before ... simple and beautiful!!!
In my opinion those strings are making things way to complicated ... but then I might be wrong?!

Thank you for sharing info about your invention Howard!

Regards

Goran

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #341 on: May 07, 2010, 02:57:46 AM »

Hi Goran,

Welcome to the forum!

I was planning for it to be located at the upper part of the pendulum.

I not too sure about using a balloon without testing it but it may drag the cycles?
The mechanical delay is just in case the YOG needs more time for the buoyancy to position the drive magnet overbalance. Hopefully I wont need it.

Here’s a video of a clock that uses it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRoz4XC83yk&feature=related

Thank you for fallowing my work. I hope to share many more great inventions that may be even better than the YOG.   ;)

Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #342 on: May 07, 2010, 03:30:44 AM »
Hello Howard .. and thanks for welcome

I made translation error by saying balloon .. I was thinking about buoyancy air container thing!
Larger air container (also missinterpreted as balloon :) )would switch the drive magnet faster, I think. That old clock mechanism is OK when you have constant swinging amplitudes ... YOG doesn't have that - supposing you recharge batteries and you don't want to overcharge you need to disconnect generator and then swinging amplitude goes up since not under load ... so I was thinking maybe faster drive magnet switching is a MUST?

Goran

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #343 on: May 08, 2010, 12:23:36 AM »

Ok, I see now what you mean.   :D

Well, I just need to show OU with the YOG and have the technology publicly proven.
Afterwards I plan on building the larger scale servo units for some serious energy production.

So starting the YOG at constant swinging amplitude may not be so bad. Instead of letting it climb of course.

But I do agree on faster drive magnet switching. The amount of kinetic energy stored can be tremendous. Hopefully in the future when I get funding. I would be able to increase my research in this area.

Here is some thing to think about when increasing the buoyancy.

Buoyancy = The weight of displaced fluid.

It’s not so much the weight of the magnet that gives the overbalance when the drive magnet rotates 180 degrees.

It’s the weight and distance of the drive magnet from the center mass that allows for the overbalance.    :)

Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #344 on: May 09, 2010, 11:40:27 PM »

After reading my last post. I think I may have made it a bit more confusing.
So here’s a picture to help.

See how the short weight is equal to the tall weight in the vertical position. Both are equal.

See how the horizontal position of the equal weights, now has an overbalance on the tall weight and the short one does not.
That is how the overbalance is achieved due to leverage basically.

One more thing I would like to point out. When building this is to be cautious of the amount of increased buoyancy added. Because in the horizontal position the float itself shifts the fluid that can change the counter weight. Therefore the weight of the fluid itself can weigh more than the levered magnet.

Regards,
Howard


 

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