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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 212676 times)

Offline WattBuilder

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #315 on: February 20, 2010, 07:50:07 PM »

ALL,

This should do it.

I haven’t test this yet and I’m still working out the best way to lock the pin or use the electro magnet release. What ever is less energy of course?

I’m also researching a way to operate that lock mechanically before electrically. Please bare with me as my time is limited.

Below in the picture you will see that I use buoyancy to shift the unbalance drive magnet. The lock will hold it’s position until the end of the cycle. From their the lock will release and the buoyancy will rotate the magnet.

I’m going to take a break for half a week from posting to catch up on my other responsibilities. Enjoy !

Howard Yu


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Offline ageofmagnetizm

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #316 on: February 22, 2010, 12:26:37 PM »
I like your efforts, Howard! Seeing your intentions to improve your current device, - I advice you to improve your ferromagnetic screening of applyed magnets, what you can learn at:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsjwvjk_27hfhbw8cn

Also whach videos of similar devices:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6320555275620307180

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbuOWo7nps

Whish you`ll continue your research.

Taras Leskiv

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #317 on: February 22, 2010, 12:28:44 PM »
I like your efforts, Howard! Seeing your intentions to improve your current device, - I advice you to improve your ferromagnetic screening of applyed magnets, what you can learn at:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsjwvjk_27hfhbw8cn

Also whach videos of similar devices:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6320555275620307180

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbuOWo7nps

Whish you`ll continue your research.

Taras Leskiv

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #317 on: February 22, 2010, 12:28:44 PM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #318 on: February 24, 2010, 08:23:05 AM »


This should do it.

I haven’t test this yet and I’m still working out the best way to lock the pin or use the electro magnet release. What ever is less energy of course?


Below in the picture you will see that I use buoyancy to shift the unbalance drive magnet. The lock will hold it’s position until the end of the cycle. From their the lock will release and the buoyancy will rotate the magnet.


greetings sir,

i saw your dilemma and thought id offer my thoughts,

i like the buoyancy idea, but that means you will have to have the thickness of the container between the magnet and the track

i wondered, could not the reverse be accomplished?

if you take the magnet and put it on an axle, but do not put it through the middle, naturally one side of the magnet will be heavier and fall in place of your desired magnet direction

heres a quick paint job, odd how that phrase worked out...

edit::::::::: to add jpeg pic of same file

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #319 on: February 24, 2010, 08:26:26 AM »

greetings sir,

i saw your dilemma and thought id offer my thoughts,

i like the buoyancy idea, but that means you will have to have the thickness of the container between the magnet and the track

i wondered, could not the reverse be accomplished?

if you take the magnet and put it on an axle, but do not put it through the middle, naturally one side of the magnet will be heavier and fall in place of your desired magnet direction

heres a quick paint job, odd how that phrase worked out...

edit::::::::: to add jpeg pic of same file

won't work, happy hunting!

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #319 on: February 24, 2010, 08:26:26 AM »
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Offline WattBuilder

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #320 on: February 25, 2010, 01:49:14 AM »
Ageofmagnetizm,
Thank you, I will take a closer look of your ferromagnetic methods and will keep it in mind.

I do plain on continuing my research. I just had to take a small break.

Howard


i wondered, could not the reverse be accomplished?

Mr bonjangles,
According to the tests that were preformed. It would seem that to utilize the unbalance drive magnet for what I have been calling a step function to climb higher. The unbalance will need to be forward of the travel direction.


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #321 on: February 25, 2010, 10:31:08 AM »

ALL,
Here’s a simple experiment that I would like to share.
What I did was test if buoyancy can rotate the drive magnet and also allow for the unbalance of the YOG’s drive magnet as well.
 
I purchased a clear plastic tube from a local pet store (aquarium section) and placed a steel nut and washer on top of Styrofoam inserted into the clear plastic tube. I then filled it with water in a sink underwater to eliminate air bubbles that may get trapped inside. Luckily I happened to have some end capes to plug the ends of the tube with some teflon tape.

The buoyancy was confirmed by see if the steel nut rises to the top of the tube while holding it vertically. It does rise.

Then I checked to see if there is an overbalance. The results showed there was.

I the picture below you will see that I balanced the tube on a pen cap. The center mass is offset. Notice how the length on the nut side is shorter.

What this means,
I may be able to replace the servo and it’s energy used to orientate the drive magnet by using buoyancy. Also the input energy that the YOG uses can be as low as a simple pulse to unlock a pin release.

Further research is still needed to find a way to release that pin without electricity.

Howard

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #321 on: February 25, 2010, 10:31:08 AM »
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Offline Charlie_V

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #322 on: March 03, 2010, 04:41:42 AM »
Hi Howard,

I was wondering how the magnet arrangement works.  Is there a sticky point before the pendulum magnet enters the influence of the array?  Also, if the pendulum magnet is balanced (in the video and elsewhere i read that it was unbalanced) so that you don't have to fight gravity to turn it around, it still accelerates from the array correct?

Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #323 on: March 03, 2010, 08:57:23 PM »

I was wondering how the magnet arrangement works.  Is there a sticky point before the pendulum magnet enters the influence of the array?  Also, if the pendulum magnet is balanced (in the video and elsewhere i read that it was unbalanced) so that you don't have to fight gravity to turn it around, it still accelerates from the array correct?

Thanks,
Charlie

Here My take:

>I was wondering how the magnet arrangement works.  Is
>there a sticky point before the pendulum magnet enters
>the influence of the array?

No!...A "Sticky Spot" only occurs for circular magnetic
array's (motor rotor fields).

That is the beauty of a pendulum...It doesn't circle
around back to the beginning! The sticky spot is;
"a net array interaction in a circular magnet array"
On the flip side, A pendulum mechanism re-runs
through the magnetic array backwards, if the yog
head magnets were not flipped the array would
probably extract most of the energy back out that
it had just deposited on the previous pass. There is
component of the array acceleration that is bidirectional
and a component that is unidirectional called the
magnetic gradient - this has to do with how the
magnets are sorted. And they always will be sorted,
independent of design intent vs/or via design intent.

>Also, if the pendulum magnet is balanced (in the video
>and elsewhere i read that it was unbalanced) so that you
>don't have to fight gravity to turn it around, it still
>accelerates from the array correct?

The servomotor does indeed pump energy directly into the
pendulum which is ultimately supplied by a dry cell battery.
It pumps energy into pendulum only via the unbalanced
mechanical overbalance...The logic of allowing it is that;
if the electricity to actuate the servo is supplied by the
pendulum it will be a kind of a pass through reaction.

If on the other hand if he does what he is thinking the
overbalance will *extract* some energy to make the
magnet flip, removing it from the pendulum...You see it
all depends of the timing of the unbalance asserting
itself. He just needs to not extract too much.

So No, I think he will have to flip the YOG head magnets
or the reverse motion would largely extract gained
energy back out.

:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #323 on: March 03, 2010, 08:57:23 PM »
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Offline nightlife

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #324 on: March 04, 2010, 01:46:00 AM »
This may help. I think that if you flip the running magnet it may work. This picture is of a magnet design that would allow this to happen. You could mount a peg on each side for the magnet to hit and flip. You would need to use a weak stationary magnet attached to the arm to hold the magnet in the flipped possition until it was flipped again.


Offline Charlie_V

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #325 on: March 04, 2010, 02:45:04 AM »
Sorry,

I'm having a hard time visualizing how the magnet arrangement in the array works.  Could you or someone draw it in detail?  All the magnet stuff I've ever worked with had two spots, a place where it accelerated toward (or away) and a place where it would stop.  If the magnets were arranged so they repelled, you would have to push it through a sticky point, then beyond that sticky point it would repel away. If it was in attraction then it would attract up to the "sticky point" and then it would try to hold it still.

I'm curious how you make the magnet arrangement so that the moving magnet can clear the other magnets without having to change the polarity while in the field.  You are changing the polarity once out of the field which is really interesting.  I've tried to read about Howard Johnsons stuff but it never made sense.  Surely one of you guys could help me out.

Thanks,
Charlie

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #326 on: March 04, 2010, 04:24:58 AM »


I was wondering how the magnet arrangement works.  Is there a sticky point before the pendulum magnet enters the influence of the array? 

The sticky point (known as resistance point) happens on the test array that I have set up is during the entrance influence of the array not before.

Once the drive magnet has passed the sticky point. The remaining length of the array is where the OU energy comes from, as it picks up momentum from the field. 


Also, if the pendulum magnet is balanced (in the video and elsewhere i read that it was unbalanced) so that you don't have to fight gravity to turn it around, it still accelerates from the array correct?

Theoretically, if the set up of the array and the magnetic strength is strong enough, you don’t have to have the unbalance of the drive magnet. The unbalance helps with a minimal cost of the input energy while orientating the drive magnet. You might as well.

In past post I have been calling this the “step function” trying to explain what I feel is taking place. The energy gained from the off balance is allowing for advancement in travel. I have used examples of climbing up a stairway and also used an example of a bumper jack. In the case of the stairway, it’s not the energy moving your foot up but the energy moving your foot forward.


I'm curious how you make the magnet arrangement so that the moving magnet can clear the other magnets without having to change the polarity while in the field.  You are changing the polarity once out of the field which is really interesting.  I've tried to read about Howard Johnsons stuff but it never made sense.  Surely one of you guys could help me out.

As far as changing the polarity while in the field, that might be a better discussion for a new thread as I’m trying to keep this thread within scope. 

One of the great things that I feel about Howard Johnson work was he was able to point out that the spins of the magnetic flux can be utilized to do work. He then was able to clarify it with his work with magnetic vortexes. His work also complements magnets that they have an unequal force with other magnets.

My advice is to read it again and again. Focus on how the spins interact with each other. But here’s a tip for your new thread. Counter clockwise against counter clockwise equal traction. Counter clockwise against clockwise equal slippage.

Regards,
Howard Yu   


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #327 on: March 04, 2010, 05:21:33 AM »
wont happen without round mags  ;D ;D

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #328 on: March 04, 2010, 06:16:28 AM »
Howard,

I havent seen a detailed diagram of your array, but since you say it's an HJ array, I'll assume from appearances that it's similar to the first one in his book, the flat track w/ the corners of the magnets facing up.

I'm wondering what would happen with the setup he uses on the train car/ track. Basically a box formation w/ bar magnets and a circular mag ring mounted on back to cancel spin.

It might require two separate arrays, each in one direction, but it seemed from the footage that it achieved the most thrust. Not sure if entering the array would be possible though.
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #329 on: March 04, 2010, 06:35:35 PM »

I havent seen a detailed diagram of your array, but since you say it's an HJ array, I'll assume from appearances that it's similar to the first one in his book, the flat track w/ the corners of the magnets facing up.

To be fair, it’s not so much the set up of the array that I give HJ credit for on the YOG array. It’s more relates to the work he has done with the spins that magnets have.


I'm wondering what would happen with the setup he uses on the train car/ track. Basically a box formation w/ bar magnets and a circular mag ring mounted on back to cancel spin.

It might require two separate arrays, each in one direction, but it seemed from the footage that it achieved the most thrust. Not sure if entering the array would be possible though.

In the past when I was studying HJ’s work, I set up a box configuration like an up side down “U” shape array. That kind of mimics the circle portion of the HJ square & round gate. I then placed many magnets side by side with the north’s facing out towards the train like the HJ gate. What I found was when the trains north faces the north’s opening of the array, It does attract. The array sucks the train right in and stops at the transition point from square to round.

The result from that test is what I have on the YOG now and still can be improved.

Howard


 

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