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Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 212952 times)

Offline WattBuilder

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #270 on: January 23, 2010, 05:20:16 AM »

Ok Stefan,

Your right.

I should not use the striking force.

I can live with that. I will just have to find a better way to measure.

I now stand down from my latest video claiming Conclusive Proof that I have achieved OU.   

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Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #271 on: January 23, 2010, 06:45:27 PM »
your picture shows what i was referring to

because your system is top heavy, the only work you need to put into it is the difference in weight until it goes past 90* and falls,

what you have neglected to think about is that if it does go all the way to the floor, your input has now increased because you now have to move the lever from the floor all the way back up to the magnet array, which is a lot more distance than the magnets who move it only like 30*


why not just put a couple gears on it, and use the torque to spin your magnet, or build two so they can power each other

you can't claim proof until you have a runner....

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2010, 10:47:54 PM »

because your system is top heavy, the only work you need to put into it is the difference in weight until it goes past 90* and falls,

Mr Bonjangles,
The lever is less than 0.1 pounds or less than 45.359 grams or less than 1.6 ounces. I made it top heavy only for testing the array only.

If you still think gravity of 0.1 pounds is causing the gain of 1.3 pounds then ask a friend to drop a coin from 10 feet into your hand at the floor. You will find you’re not close to 1.3 pounds by far. 

what you have neglected to think about is that if it does go all the way to the floor, your input has now increased because you now have to move the lever from the floor all the way back up to the magnet array, which is a lot more distance than the magnets who move it only like 30*

I think you have neglected that the YOG has a pendulum in it’s design. The counter weight returns the cycle back to the array.

Beside the point, the entry point resistance gets eliminated by the YOG’s counterweight. Hence The Yu Effect.
 
you can't claim proof until you have a runner....

Are you kidding me! of course I can. It’s math. The science community will have no choice to recognize my work.

I’m a measurement away from proving OU.

Howard


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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2010, 10:47:54 PM »
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Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #273 on: January 24, 2010, 02:26:44 AM »
i don't understand why you modified your original design

i have only been talking about your most recent video, your old design doesn't behave in the same manner as this one, its the opposite,

"neglected that the YOG has a pendulum in it’s design. The counter weight returns the cycle back to the array."

what counterweight? your video does not have a pendulum, and a pendulum implies your design is now bottom heavy, which would not behave in the same manner as your current set up, thats irrelevant because that would change the input


if you show this same thing happening with a bottom heavy set up, or with a perfectly balanced lever then you could easily prove a gain (and your older videos seem to support this)

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #274 on: January 24, 2010, 06:17:08 AM »
Mr Bonjangles,
The lever is less than 0.1 pounds or less than 45.359 grams or less than 1.6 ounces. I made it top heavy only for testing the array only.

I did not modified my design I only temporary made it slightly top heavy so that I can measure the array’s forces without having the counterweight throwing off my measurements. It was only for the array’s test.

The reason why I made it slightly top heavy is because of the 10min time limit on YouTube videos. I don’t have all day waiting for the lever to stop floating around (weight less) every time I touch it or wait for it to pick a side and slowly rest before I can take a measurement.

This is a clear as I can reply. If you still don’t get it. Just read it again or sleep on it. You will eventually see what I’m talking about. 

Howard



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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #274 on: January 24, 2010, 06:17:08 AM »
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Offline X00013

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #275 on: January 24, 2010, 06:53:24 AM »
hello, i give you credit for going with big diameter and weak mags. balance the wheel and show it, if it takes longer than 10 minutes, compress vid, use vegas pro

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #276 on: January 24, 2010, 09:50:56 AM »
i dont understand what time restrictions have to do with anything,

a balanced lever would conclusively show a gain, and if you chose not to use a balanced lever because it didn't work, then it isn't a gain

that way you can show there is basically no input and whatever output you got could be considered gain


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Offline WattBuilder

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #277 on: January 25, 2010, 06:24:17 PM »


hello, i give you credit for going with big diameter and weak mags. balance the wheel and show it, if it takes longer than 10 minutes, compress vid, use vegas pro

X00013,
They are not weak magnets and compressing the video will not shorten the time. It will decrease the video quality.


i dont understand what time restrictions have to do with anything, a balanced lever would conclusively show a gain, and if you chose not to use a balanced lever because it didn't work, then it isn't a gain

Bojangles,
I replied this to you. Please take the time to read. When you become a builder and place your videos on YouTube you will notice YouTube does not allow a recording time of over 10 minutes per video.

The reason why I made it slightly top heavy is because of the 10min time limit on YouTube videos. I don’t have all day waiting for the lever to stop floating around (weight less) every time I touch it or wait for it to pick a side and slowly rest before I can take a measurement.

This is a clear as I can reply. If you still don’t get it. Just read it again or sleep on it. You will eventually see what I’m talking about. 

Howard

that way you can show there is basically no input and whatever output you got could be considered gain

Bojangles,
I’m not even worried about the slight imperfection of the weight. For the reasons I have pointed out to you. I’m working on figuring out the best way to measure the Output. If I don’t get a positive gain IN vs OUT I still have the YU Effect to fall back on.

If you still have concerns. Be patience for my next video.

Howard
Video: The Yu Effect – Kinetic energy gain from magnets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtl0OTSccs


Offline happyfunball

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #278 on: January 27, 2010, 03:57:47 AM »
Great job Howard. Considering doing a build.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #278 on: January 27, 2010, 03:57:47 AM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #279 on: January 27, 2010, 12:52:56 PM »
I am sorry to say that this design does not produce any free energy. The calculations are all wrong. Lift a rock up with your meter and then drop the rock on it. You will find the same results if not better.
 Another way would be to do away with the magnets and drop the arm from the 11:59 position and take the reading. I bet you get the same reading if not better.
 You will never produce enough energy to take the arm back to the starting point and or past. At least not with the design you are now showing.
  I am not trying to burst your bubble but I do suggest that you think about it more before making such false claims.

 

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #280 on: January 28, 2010, 06:52:42 PM »

Great job Howard. Considering doing a build.

@Happyfunball,
Thanks,
A lot of the parts can be found at the local hardware store. You might want to make it smaller. That’s what I would do if I were to build another one. Going up and down that ladder can be a pain. My YOG is configured around a 7:1 ratio on the lever.

Note the array’s arc to the fulcrum is hard to change unless you redo the arc. If you decide later to increase the long side of the lever after you build the arc, you will have to redo the arc’s curve. Because the radius of the lever will end up hitting the ends of the array. I used a long piece of wood attached a router on one end and the other end I had a hole with a bolt thru the fulcrum to guide my cut.

If any body has any questions on building one let me know.

Howard


@Nightlife,
Your repeating the same points that was already addressed. I don’t see the point of repeating myself over and over. Please read again and stop guessing. Your welcome to do your own test.

Remember I do have it right here. What I report are the data I get.

I don’t view anybody that does not take the time to read seriously, Has it even cross your mind that I would have done that weight test first before posting a claim.   Think               


If you still have concerns. Be patience for my next video. 

Howard
Video: The Yu Effect – Kinetic energy gain from magnets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtl0OTSccs



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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #280 on: January 28, 2010, 06:52:42 PM »
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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #281 on: January 29, 2010, 07:53:39 AM »
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Your repeating the same points that was already addressed. I don’t see the point of repeating myself over and over. Please read again and stop guessing. Your welcome to do your own test."

 LOL, I had already tested this a couple of years ago and I am telling you that you are not taking into account of the calculations needed. You can not just say the force of the hit is more then the force of the start. You have to calculate the distance in the mix.
 Add the distance from the bottom to the exit and divide it by the drop force and then compare your findings to the start force or add the distance from the bottom to the the start and multiply it by the start force and compare that to the drop force. You have yet to show those figures which you must take into consideration. I did these things already and I am telling you that you are not even close to perpetual motion not to mention your false claims of over unity.

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #282 on: January 29, 2010, 08:53:46 PM »

Nightlife,
You claim you tested this a couple of years ago? Ok then, lets see it! Where’s your video?  I’m calling you out! I’m telling you can’t get 1.3 pounds from dropping 0.3 pounds from 10 feet. Isn’t the real fact is you’re the one making false claims.

Now you’re arguing about types of measurements. Again Please Read! You’re late. I posted this to Stefan.


Ok Stefan,
Your right.
I should not use the striking force.
I can live with that. I will just have to find a better way to measure.
I now stand down from my latest video claiming Conclusive Proof that I have achieved OU.   

Regards,
Howard G. Yu

Nightlife, blowing your horn trumpet trying to show how smart you are, is not working. It’s clear I measured force and not energy. There for I can’t really say it’s conclusive proof YET. I’m working on different measurements in my next video.

I’m not to proud to admit it.

I dare you to.

If you still have concerns. Be patience for my next video. 

Howard
Video: The Yu Effect – Kinetic energy gain from magnets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtl0OTSccs


Offline nightlife

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #283 on: January 30, 2010, 03:29:58 AM »
Howard, there was no reason for me to have recorded my test because  there was  no gain to record. I will however give this next link to a u shaped array that I posted to prove to another member that I could pass thru a u shaped curve. The array you are about to see is one I have used many times in many different experiments because it is the best one I have been able to create for this type of use. I refer to this array as the nightlife array.

http://www.youtube.com/user/bcnightlife

 I have since created jigs for making the array. This array has been used to do what you are doing as well as many different ways. The one I am now working on has three arms and four different arrays. I do not record my results unless they are what I hoped for.
 I have started one array at 7 o'clock and ending at 1 o'clock. I would start the draw at 10 o'clock and it would pass over 12 and pass thru the gate at  1 o'clock but it would not go far enough around to be picked back up by the draw at 10 o'clock. I did however find that the arm traveled further around when I started the array at 7 o'clock then it did starting it at 10:00. I also found that the arm went further around starting at 12:01 without magnets then it did with the array starting at 10:00 and ending at 1:00.

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Nightlife,
You claim you tested this a couple of years ago? Ok then, lets see it! Where’s your video?  I’m calling you out! I’m telling you can’t get 1.3 pounds from dropping 0.3 pounds from 10 feet. Isn’t the real fact is you’re the one making false claims.

 I doubt you accounted for the weight of the arm which must be factored in.

 You don't want to get into a pissing match with me. I am only trying to help you save some time. I am not book smart but common sense is one of my fortes.   ;)

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Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #284 on: January 30, 2010, 03:38:49 AM »
@nightlife

Do you think Howard thinks his arm will enter and exit the array without any additional force? He doesn't. This is magnetism combined with gravity/ momentum. There isn't any doubt that the YOG shows a gain in arm travel, the question is whether it's more than the force required to turn the arm magnet. It seems to me that we see increasing potential energy with which to turn the magnet. Imo it's not overunity for the first few passes but might be afterwards.

 

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