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### Author Topic: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model  (Read 318687 times)

#### Bulbz

• Sr. Member
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##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2009, 07:33:36 PM »

I have been repeatedly posting it does to a point.
Let it be very clear the servo adds energy by shifting the magnet weight.
It adds energy only to a point. The array of magnets allows it to go past that point. Servo say â€œPoint Xâ€ and now with the array energy â€œGain Point Yâ€

Child on a swingâ€¦ Say a five-year on the swing can only reach to an 8 oâ€™clock position the child can not reach to the 11 oâ€™clock position without help like the array.  If the child can reach to the 11 oâ€™clock on his own then Iâ€™ll will say thatâ€™s one super baby! Then I will check if that child is on steroidâ€™s.

Hey Howard, I've got an idea !

Why not remove the magnet array and do the experiment again, just to prove a point that it's not just simply the "Child on Swing" effect of the shifting weight.

I'm pretty sure there is gain as the servo assembly shoots through the magnet array. As I know from my experience with servos, that one servo has not got enough kick to swing that pendulum on its own, while it's mounted in that way.

I think you are doing a great job, and I think your idea has great potential.

#### powercat

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1091
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2009, 07:46:18 PM »
Howard
Once you get to the point where the device is running itself,
will you allow an independent team to visit you and inspect your device ?

cat

#### markdansie

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1471
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2009, 07:50:50 PM »
@Bulbiz ,
what an excellent suggestion. So WattBuilder run the same experiment without the magnetic array at the top. How is easy is that. At least its a start. So it should not be too hard to organise that.
Failing to do that you have to demonstrate the device with no shift in weight, other wise you have no credability. Any amount of semantics does not replace good practical demonstrations.

@Stefan
it appears the smot ramp does have no resistance...think it through carefully why this is so. I think Spoondini has hit the nail on the head.

This is a rather fun thread and in some ways has many people thinking. However good questions and suggestions have been raised. They need to be addressed to progress your development of the device.
Kind Regards
Mark

#### Cloxxki

• Hero Member
• Posts: 825
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2009, 08:38:31 PM »
A relatively simple "proof" as far as video proof goes, would perhaps be to put the array on a vertical rail. Let's say you repeat the video as it was, with the addition of an assistent lifting the array out of range for the servo driven magnet. Can you use the servo to load the oscillator as concerns offered?
Hey, I proposed that first! :-)
But thanks for supporting the idea.

#### noonespecial

• Sr. Member
• Posts: 278
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2009, 09:34:49 PM »
I have an idea for a purely mechanical solution to reorient the drive magnet. If I get time I will post.

#### Asymatrix

• Jr. Member
• Posts: 88
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2009, 09:39:09 PM »
Wouldn't it be possible to eliminate the servo if you simply used a drive shaft through the magnet mount arm and linked it to a gear which would mechanically engage to flip the magnet once it passes the top magnet array? It would create a little bit of drag, and you'd need to use a small magnet or clasp to keep the servo magnet in place while it passes the top array, but by the looks of the momentum, it seems like it could work.

#### WattBuilder

• Full Member
• Posts: 140
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #111 on: October 30, 2009, 06:16:35 AM »
Hi Stefan,
Sure, I may be able put up a video explaining the magnetic array. It can work linear as well too. I donâ€™t have the time in the near future though. Iâ€˜m getting closer to power testing on the YOG.

For now attached is an example explaining the force values behind it.

Best Regards,
Howard

#### WattBuilder

• Full Member
• Posts: 140
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #112 on: October 30, 2009, 06:21:27 AM »
@PowerCat
Sure no problem but I think the replicators will beat them to it.

@Asymatrix
In theory it should. Your right.

@Other guys,
Iâ€™m not going to risk throwing it off just for your curiosity and setting me back. Iâ€™m telling you whatâ€™s going to happen. If you guys donâ€™t believe me then itâ€™s your problem not mine? Respectfully.

@MileHigh
Ummm,  Of course I did.. I do have it right here you know.

Howard

#### WattBuilder

• Full Member
• Posts: 140
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #113 on: October 30, 2009, 06:22:52 AM »
@All
Theirs still some of you who donâ€™t fully understand yet. Thatâ€™s okay I blame myself for not being clearer. Hopefully majority of you guys are past the point of the â€œone cycle videoâ€. If youâ€™re not past that point then, take a look at OCâ€™s posted video on this thread. If that does not do it for you. Then go to a hardware store buy two magnets, a nail and a wooden stick. Glue one magnet to the end of the stick then take the other end and put a nail through it. Find something you can nail it to. You just made a pendulum. Get a marker and simply mark where you start and stop just like the videos. Then try it with out the magnet. You just proved energy gain from magnets.

For those guys that are past that point but canâ€™t make that connection. Letâ€™s try to look at it instead of energy lifting weights. Letâ€™s look at it as Time of Production. Try to focus on what happens to the gain magnetic energy?

In my Proof of gain video, you see the YOG swing around but canâ€™t figure out how to separate the energy from the servo to the magnets gain energy.
Now in that video you see me stop the hand controller and talk then start again. Did you notice how the YOG was still in production power until the end of the video? Can you see how no input power was entered into the YOG.
Okay now you may think Itâ€™s just the kinetic energy getting released from the servo. Yes it is and also releasing the gain magnetic energy.
If you picture the YOG with array and without array. The YOG with the array will take longer to slow down to a complete stop turning a turbine.

Ok almost see it?
Lets look at that one cycle video. One with array one without. Now picture a bicycle upside down. The pedal is now the lever part of the YOG. The array lever turns longer causing the bicycle wheel rotating for a longer time. Time of Production vs the lever using the rock.

Did that help guys?

For the guys past that point and sees what I see.
Be patienceâ€¦. On how to make the YOG better. Lets focus on how the can get the technology available to the world first then build from their. The faster the technology is out the faster we save lives.

Howard

#### spider4re

• Newbie
• Posts: 39
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #114 on: October 30, 2009, 12:36:05 PM »
Congratulations Howard. Please don't get distracted by detractors.

#### WattBuilder

• Full Member
• Posts: 140
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2009, 05:09:47 PM »
@ Bulbz and Spider4re

@All

If your wondering about the array picture that I posted for Stefan.
Yes, It can be used for other applications as weâ€™ll.

It can also improve the Worlds Transportation System

I had to get that off my mind.

Howard

#### synchro1

• Hero Member
• Posts: 4694
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2009, 05:47:50 PM »
A pulse recover circuit consisting of a capacitor to recover and return the pulse to the power coil to move a solenoid plunger and throw lever, would cut the operating battery power input in half. A DPDT reed switch and two trigger magnets, one on each end of a T bar halfway down the pendulum arm,
would reverse the polarity of the solenoid pulse coil where ever desired, but past the array on each side. The pendulum magnet can rotate on it' CG, collect the pulse and return it with the simple addition of two 45 degree gears. One coil one battery one magnet. A Joule theif charger could keep the run battery topped off, the rest period between pulses is so long, and the run cost could drop below zero, or go O.U. on it's own.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 12:26:27 AM by synchro1 »

#### spoondini

• Full Member
• Posts: 121
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2009, 05:51:00 PM »
Hhoward,
Patented devices are allowed in eric's open prize for ou.  http://www.phact.org/e/freetest.html.  His endorsement would be huge for you.

Recommend you give it a shot.
Somewhere on his website there's also an open offer from an individual for 1 million for ou verification.

Convincing folks here is not going to carry any weight.

#### powercat

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1091
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #118 on: October 30, 2009, 05:58:34 PM »
Howard
Have you decided on which method you are going to use to make the device run-itself,
and if you have, how long do you think it will take before you can demonstrate OU ?
cat

#### markdansie

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1471
##### Re: Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model
« Reply #119 on: October 30, 2009, 08:26:27 PM »
@wattbuilder,
the request of removing the magnetic array can be achieved by shielding it or increasing the distance between the magnet (IE shorten the shaft.) Removal of it all together would be better.

It appears you are unwilling to do this. Why?

A common mistake with inventors and even some university researchers is that they sometimes only see the data they want to see not all of it. Often when I am engaged to verify devices I am amazed that even engineers can be fooled......and when they are, they answer " I just wanted to believe it worked that much that procedure went out the door".

Up until now I have given you the benefit of the doubt, I still do, but only just. My associates who (and you guessed some are ex NASA, and many scientists) already dismissed your claims and questioned why I even wasted my time with it. The truth is I am open minded. But when you refuse to do simple tests like remove the magnetic array or not centre the mangets so there is no weight shifting, then it is obvious you are either self deluded or trying to pull a scam of.
I have nothing to prove here, in fact most people think I am an arsehole, however my track record is 100% correct. I just gave a deposition for a court case in Seattle and my involvement in another case this year resulted in an arrest warrent in South Africa. I do not piss about with people who make false claims and take other peoples money.So far you haven't tried to take other peoples monies.
All I have asked, as many others have, is for two simple tests or changes to be made. Failure or lack of a good reason to do so will be very revealing.Your device is simple to replicate so it is only a matter of time before someone else conducts the same test.
I guess this in some ways is what I call peer review. Ultimately I and many others want to help you progress your project. There is no room for ignorance or bad methodology.
I wish you well , and please ask you reconsider running the test without the magnetic array or changing the device to turning the magnet without weight shifting.
With good intentions and kind regards
Mark Dansie