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Author Topic: Bedini pulse charger buster  (Read 32785 times)

Offline Silvije

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2009, 02:55:54 PM »
Hi Silvije I did not want to offend you about the time comment but did you build that circuit?so that I will replicate as I build others of bedini devices.
Thanks for sharing after all.

Guruji I believe I have answered you this question already but I know it is hard to read through lot of nothing left here by characters like gadgetmall.

Question for moderators: is it possible to delete some posts or/and to ban somebody from posting on some topic if the person is writing off-topic stuff and insulting others?

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2009, 02:55:54 PM »

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2009, 04:21:13 PM »
You Started it With your sarcastic about My Patents Man.And No Everyone has a say here and If i offended your Intelligence then Sorry Just a Space in time and you caught me in a bad mood son . Sorry .At the Very Least I can show My Interest to help others even if you don't see i was trying to help because of My success in self charging Devices I am Now Offering you a Truce and a test of Integrity .I am Going to Build this Dream Circuit and offer to compare it with your Results If you Dare ? .using Quad Coils with that one extra Bi Coil  and Pots In place of the resistors to Compensate however Groundloops Cleanup Is a Nice Clean render of the Idea In 12 volt form and i  Will attempt to build it in a rotor design . What will it do remains to be seen. We will See. Could also Build this without a rotor If it Does trigger Properly I do Think By placing the coils close together . It could also cancel each other out if the phase is exact and without capacitors the out put will have hardly any affect other than maybe self conditioning  . a Bedini needs caps for Bemf Amps to amount to anything . As you can see in the piggyback Crappy video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnYQvYEwkM you so call it i light a 130 incandescent  lamp from One of My Bedinies running 12 volts at a Fraction of input current less than 50 Ma . . This is only because of the caps on the output circuit.  , As far My proven Circuit Located here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6519.0;attach=29140 The return path is isolated unlike here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6519.0;attach=30403 which uses only one battery and is proven to work by many even though you yourself have not tried it or it failed do to another factor explained . And Yes you can feed the output from a Standard Bedini Back spike circuit directly in the run battery . If i was to put Two identical circuits on one rotor out of phase i would expect more power required to run the extra coil . The Perk here is to get the Minimum amount of trigger circuitry to the absolute minimum below the output level . I have done it and its not that hard to spin a magnet at less than 1 milliamp . Also remember you can capture the remaining generator energy with more coils . the composition of the Core Would negate Drag down and as you see excess energy is produced in excess of the input . after all the spin is free and is only a trigger component for a bedini . Al this Is History stuff that is proven. The Key  is How Little and how fast  does it take to trigger induction to obtain  current excess from magnet generated coil output plus series Bemf from the Bedini electromagnet/Back generated Capture . To achieve this is a matter of how good you wind your coil and its resistance . Your going to need over 60 ohms worth of good copper wire  and more to achieve this .
« Last Edit: September 11, 2009, 06:09:53 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2009, 04:09:23 PM »
You Started it With your sarcastic about My Patents Man.And No Everyone has a say here and If i offended your Intelligence then Sorry Just a Space in time and you caught me in a bad mood son . Sorry .At the Very Least I can show My Interest to help others even if you don't see i was trying to help because of My success in self charging Devices I am Now Offering you a Truce and a test of Integrity .I am Going to Build this Dream Circuit and offer to compare it with your Results If you Dare ? .using Quad Coils with that one extra Bi Coil  and Pots In place of the resistors to Compensate however Groundloops Cleanup Is a Nice Clean render of the Idea In 12 volt form and i  Will attempt to build it in a rotor design . What will it do remains to be seen. We will See. Could also Build this without a rotor If it Does trigger Properly I do Think By placing the coils close together . It could also cancel each other out if the phase is exact and without capacitors the out put will have hardly any affect other than maybe self conditioning  . a Bedini needs caps for Bemf Amps to amount to anything . As you can see in the piggyback Crappy video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnYQvYEwkM you so call it i light a 130 incandescent  lamp from One of My Bedinies running 12 volts at a Fraction of input current less than 50 Ma . . This is only because of the caps on the output circuit.  , As far My proven Circuit Located here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6519.0;attach=29140 The return path is isolated unlike here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6519.0;attach=30403 which uses only one battery and is proven to work by many even though you yourself have not tried it or it failed do to another factor explained . And Yes you can feed the output from a Standard Bedini Back spike circuit directly in the run battery . If i was to put Two identical circuits on one rotor out of phase i would expect more power required to run the extra coil . The Perk here is to get the Minimum amount of trigger circuitry to the absolute minimum below the output level . I have done it and its not that hard to spin a magnet at less than 1 milliamp . Also remember you can capture the remaining generator energy with more coils . the composition of the Core Would negate Drag down and as you see excess energy is produced in excess of the input . after all the spin is free and is only a trigger component for a bedini . Al this Is History stuff that is proven. The Key  is How Little and how fast  does it take to trigger induction to obtain  current excess from magnet generated coil output plus series Bemf from the Bedini electromagnet/Back generated Capture . To achieve this is a matter of how good you wind your coil and its resistance . Your going to need over 60 ohms worth of good copper wire  and more to achieve this .

apology accepted,
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings too.

You did not realy explained to me how that self runner circuit of your works,
I believe I still do not understand it. I see how the current loop should close but there is a problem. Isn't a diode D2 really shorting C1? How can that work?

Silvije (that's my real name, not nickname)
« Last Edit: September 12, 2009, 04:36:43 PM by Silvije »

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2009, 04:09:23 PM »
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Offline Silvije

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2009, 04:24:28 PM »
here is another idea, with two coil windings...

both have a triger coil and one have main and other have recharging coil

edit: I have re-uploaded circuit image bacause I made a little mistake with diode orientation...
« Last Edit: September 12, 2009, 09:08:07 PM by Silvije »

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2009, 05:19:09 PM »
somehow this first schematic seem to have most sence to me,
and we could add third coil which could be also used for recharging or
wound trifilar both coils and use extra windings for recharging


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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2009, 05:19:09 PM »
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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2009, 06:11:53 PM »
@gadgetmall:

also induced current spikes go back to the coil (red path) and not to the battery..
which is exactly with what my circuits deal with...
although I cannot see how your schematic can work it gives me an idea for another circuit...

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2009, 09:36:03 PM »
@gadgetmall:

also induced current spikes go back to the coil (red path) and not to the battery..
which is exactly with what my circuits deal with...
although I cannot see how your schematic can work it gives me an idea for another circuit...
I can only account this to the properties of that rare Diode I use . It is no longer in production however i have been able to get it to feedback with other diodes . several people have n explination and Validate My Circuit here
Hi, This utube video by comwarrior69 will be off interest.He has a circuit which feeds back from the trigger coil and it also validates gadgetmalls claims. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY4pSOsqNvY
                                                                      regards jonnydavro

and Pengo's explination :am trying to accomplish with the slow speed is to have 50 or more pulses per rotation which ARE the radiant spikes that recharges the battery while the transistor is turning off, therefore sending the signal back to the battery when the current is NOT flowing FROM the battery. It is very tricky because Bedini said many times that you can not charge a battery when it is in running mode. In other words, one can not take current out and put it in "at the same time", BUT one can take current out, stop and put current in, which is exactly what we are doing here (current or radiant energy in this case).


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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2009, 09:36:03 PM »
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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2009, 09:45:13 PM »
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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2009, 11:11:08 AM »
ok here is another idea, circuit might need some correction but logic behind it should be something like this:

while the trigger coil turns on transistor t1, high voltage capacitor should be connected to the battery charging it. while the transistor t1 turning off, the rest of the circuit disconect c1 from the battery and connects it to the diode rectifier so the current spike charges the capacitor... than again next trigger pulse turns t1 again, that disconnects c1 from diode rectifier and connects it to the battery and so on... this is kind of crazy and seems to me that this voltage through circuit would build up until something blows :) .. we need third step between I think.. please comment..

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2009, 04:19:19 PM »
someone suggested that Bedini magic cannot work without high voltage capacitors...
here it is, slight modification of my first circuit...

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2009, 04:41:40 PM »
I was asked earlier by gadgetmall what have I build so far. I did not answer that question. I have built a lot of circuits but none of them were "free energy" devices. I haven't build any of my ideas shown here on this topic yet. And the reason is very simple. For starters I wanted to publish all my ideas than to try them. Why?
First I wanted to show there is no free energy in this "Bedini like" circuits whatever some of the experimenters may claim. Second, if there is maybe something, which I doubt as I said on my first message here, than I would be tempted like anyone else to keep that finding for myself (remember huge dollars) and think of patents, selling, NDAs and other unimportant stuff. So even if there is some free energy hidden in this circuits, it would be shared and published and there could not be anything undisclosed, no secrets. So I could not prevent anyone to replicate. And that is something in my opinion what should be done if free energy device is to be discovered. Free energy has to be free, free for all and not just free to someone.

I noticed huge number of visits to this topic but still no report of a built device...
There may be 2 reasons for that: first, you have built it and it showed nothing special (no free energy) so you might be embaraced to report anything (please do not be) adn second, you have build it and now you have a self-runner and want to keep it a secret :)

So which one is it?

I will wait for some more time before starting to build those circuits because I still have some ideas which I want to publish/share first and would like to hear what you have to say..

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2009, 08:44:53 PM »
Silvije I'm building your first circuit but still winding the triple coil.
It's seems that you're professional to electronics and knowing what you're doing much more than me :)
Thanks keep sharing

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2009, 03:28:44 PM »
I am slowly starting to test my own circuits. I have built a motor rotor so far using a inline skates wheel with integrated leds powered by little built-in dynamo. I have added to it 8 neodimium magnets north facing outward. Coils are going to be problem because I still do not have enough amount of proper wire... but hey, I'm in not hurry...

what's your status? anybody?

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2009, 07:59:49 PM »
Hi Silvije this my motor with trifilar winding. I am going to try on this coil lenght about 4ohms if I detect heating I continue to wind to 6ohms.
About those transistors of the trifilar winding are they good for a 12v car battery or I have to use like 2n3055?
Thanks

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Re: Bedini pulse charger buster
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2009, 08:31:38 PM »
I guess 2n3055 and similar "power transistors" are prefered. But as I dont have much experienece with Bedini circuit we should ask people who have.

 

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