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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« on: November 18, 2009, 12:36:20 AM »
here is the concept

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 01:45:20 AM »
here is a simpler concept that also may work.

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 08:03:09 AM »
How are you going to perform work...e.g connecting a load?

Perpetual motion without the possibility or strength to perform work is very uninteresting.
Just see the Finsrud device. Motion that goes on for weeks or month but the slightest vibration that
induces a "load" on the system will stop it. It's good for a Art purpose but useless for anything else.

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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 08:46:09 AM »
How are you going to perform work...e.g connecting a load?

Perpetual motion without the possibility or strength to perform work is very uninteresting.
Just see the Finsrud device. Motion that goes on for weeks or month but the slightest vibration that
induces a "load" on the system will stop it. It's good for a Art purpose but useless for anything else.

Exactly, Perpetual motion should only belong as a novelty unit in some museum for people to gander at on a tour attraction. it will serve no other purpose but to boggle peoples minds in wonderment.

it may be possible to place a small coil around the capillary tube to make a little bit of energy but I think that if lenz law is greater than the capillary force then it would stop but if the capillary force was purposely made stronger than the Lenz force do to the coil size and winding density and how far the coil is placed to the capillary tube. Lenz law will always tend to slow up the ferrofluid passing through a coil that is on a load.

I think this device would work but it would be terribly inefficient because of the speed at which the Capillary action takes place.

the ferrofluid would become magnetized so we do know that if it flows through a coil it should generate some energy. though minuscule.

however, you might be able to use a paddle wheel generator on the slope side to get a little more energy out of the system.

I am more into Isotope Betavoltaics Solar Cells than anything else because 30 years as an Electrical and Mechanical engineer and being a 2 years chemist has led me in the best direction.

I do tend to try to help people solve things that science says is impossible from time to time just for novelty.

Jerry

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 08:56:24 AM »
maybe something like this, it would still be terribly inefficient at generating electricty do to the speed of capillary action, but it should work non the less as a novelty device.

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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 09:35:12 AM »
something I always tell myself before I settle on something is, will it work in space?

I would love to see if Capillary action is possible in near zero gravity. if so, would it flow faster or would it not work at all.

I have my scientific guess on this but it would still be a cool experiment.

I always tend to research energy that would work for spacecraft, if it is good enough for the spacecraft it is good enough for Earth.

I always try my best to design a concept that has absolutely no moving mechanical parts or the least possible and try to keep energy production concepts on a solid state and or state of the art scientific principle.

anything else is just novel to me, maybe even primitive in some ways.

but that is just me.
Jerry

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 12:43:14 PM »
There would have to be a reason why the magnet would only pull from the capillary tube and not the runoff. Also whatever the magnet pulls, its not going to want to give it away.  Its a new thought though.

Doesnt ferromagnetic fluid harden in a magnetic field?

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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 03:07:54 PM »
Doesn't ferromagnetic fluid harden in a magnetic field?

Yes it does and this is the final nail in the coffin on this idea.

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2009, 01:39:36 AM »
Also the capillar wants to keep the ferrofluid inside it - for the very same reason why the fluids are sucked into the capillar in the first place. No free forces here.

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2009, 09:42:50 AM »
Here's a video of a magnet confining a ferromagnetic fluid while without the magnet it will pour.  http://www.freesciencelectures.com/video/ferromagnetic-liquid/

Lot of great videos on this site.

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2009, 10:35:02 AM »
Hi Guys,

I see what you guys are saying but who to say you can’t turn off or block the field?

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 08:58:16 PM »
nice design, i was playing with some capillary action with water. It is a bastard :)

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Re: capillary fed ferrofluid magnet motor
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 08:54:19 PM »
Saw your design and I am actually building something similar with water.

You can look under the halfbaked,capillary energy source.

Maybe this picture could help inspire you more.

 

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