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Offline Belfior

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4410 on: September 03, 2018, 09:12:25 AM »
And this is different of what the US is doing? China is not invading oil producing countries though...

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4410 on: September 03, 2018, 09:12:25 AM »

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4411 on: September 04, 2018, 06:42:34 PM »
Belfior,
       Okay, you're literally right, they're not invading someone else's country.   They're trying to bully their way to getting what they want on the high seas, though, aren't they?   Like with Taiwan and Japan?
       Here's more of what they're doing:

http://www.newagebd.net/article/49680/10-years-after-the-financial-crisis

       They can attempt to take over the world economically.   Given enough time, I think they can.   Shortly, I'm getting an engineering R&D job for a particular firm in downtown San Francisco.   

       (Co. name and address is personally classified.)

       In regards to my future work, and, as merely a personal opinion I'll be working on electronic design studie(s).   Just so you know---and---it's just my opinion.   I will have made the Co.'s upper management aware of the article I've just uploaded, as well.   I think they might take a/the "hint".

       Finally, Belfior, I'd like to point out that a friend told me that organized crime in more than one form; and in just about every country, owns and runs the world.
       So, the American Gov't. in just as guilty, as well, for the same reason(s), above.   The American country and economy WILL fail eventually, and nothing can stop it.   IMHO.

       'It's only a matter of time', as the old saying goes, and the  power brokers/money men   are stalling for all the time they can, and they should know it, IMO.   The "fall" will only be that much farther and the final landing that much harder, is all.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4412 on: September 04, 2018, 09:50:27 PM »
Yes it is the 1% that runs the matrix. They are everywhere and they have their own agendas.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4413 on: September 04, 2018, 10:47:36 PM »
Quote from: Belfior link=topic=8010.msg52co.5424#msg525424 date=1536090627
Yes it is the 1% that runs the matrix.
'       And, I agree wholeheartedely.   They do what they want and have the law on their side; those laws having been written at their direction by hired "Co." lawyers.

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They are everywhere and they have their own agendas.
       Yep, that's right.   However, they probably don't know how bad their karma is going to be until after they die and leave the physical world.   Then, they're SOL.   Pain will be their companion for a long time.
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Re: I see an economic disaster coming...
« Reply #4414 on: September 04, 2018, 11:09:09 PM »
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2018/09/mil-180903-presstv04.htm?_m=3n%252e002a%252e2375%252eup0ao0822n%252e26qc
       I distinctly remember writing that the Chinese aren't invading anyone's country, but they're trying to impose their will over Taiwan and Japan.   As the uploaded article, above, may imply.   The Chinese can say anything and then do something else.   So can the Russians.   Careful vigilance is needed at all times in that case.
--Lee
p.s.       Moreover, this was just uploaded to GlobalSecurity as of today:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/libya/2018/libya-180903-presstv01.htm?_m=3n%252e002a%252e2375%252eup0ao0822n%252e26px

       Looks like a Syrian-style civil war in the making, to me.   Might be bad actors, there, doing the same things as in Syria...???


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4415 on: August 08, 2019, 04:15:07 PM »

Hello again,I have heard time and time again that a collapse is coming.I guess it depends on who is elected in the upcoming elections.I have been watching the price of gold go up.Now 1510 dollars per oz as of yesterday.
When the price of gold goes up it means fear in the marketplace.Gold is security(maybe).Personally I'm betting on chocolate.I have been buying shares of Hsy(hersheys company).Spices and gold have always been traded with zeal (and in high demand).If you buy chocolate my shares will go up.Triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4416 on: August 11, 2019, 07:43:37 PM »
Well if you have researched our current banking model at all, you see that it is a ponzi scheme. If you need money, it comes out of a central bank in many cases owned by private banks like the Federal Reserve in the US. They do not have the money they lend. They create credit with your signature. Then you need to pay it back with interest. Well the money for the interest was never created, so you will always have more debt than there is money.

In the EU the banks now need 1% of the money they lend out. You need 300k€ for a house, so you bring in 15% as savings, 15% collateral from the government and the house is the rest 70%.
The bank deposits 1% into the central bank and then they just type the rest into your account. From thin air.

Then every now and then they do something to crash the market, because the banks are created to fail. In the crash they say they lost 300k even it never existed and if you cannot pay the loan they will take the house. Pump all the profits to other companies and then market crash like the 2008 housing bubble.

European Central bank has an interest they should be using to limit lending, but that has been 0% for years. Now they are doing "quantitive easing" which means that the economies are failing and ECB just buys all the toilet paper that is floating on the market. This could be like a Greek government bond that says you give them 2 billion and they are going to pay it back with interest. That will never happen. So the ECB is basically just printing money. They say the economy is strong, but that is just BS. I would say the crash comes 2021 or 2030 the latest.

So the markets will be made to fail and dollar&euro lose their value. People will cry out for help, because they rent, lease and keep their wealth in the stock market. In the crash they will have nothing. I think so much gold have been stolen from Iraq, Kuwait and Libya that the "solution" to the market crash is a new gold based currency and they might even give you everything for free, if you just agree to do something stupid. Like only use electrical currency and let them put a chip on you. Because in the end it is about dominance.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4417 on: August 12, 2019, 12:41:36 PM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xktwDfasPGQ for 10000 Euros/38 sqm~ international starter family living area
international expanded family area : doubling = 78 sqm

http://prefabhome.eu/en/projects  how many sqm for which sum ?

"morphed/compressed " 78 sqm ~ "195 sqm" expanded living space

Who needs to spend 300 K€  ?

"credit" and the 10th Commandment
https://www.thoughtco.com/ten-commandments-die-zehn-gebote-1444584

Germany/E.U. : credit-limit : PRINZIP "allgemeine Niedrigstwert"  = general lowest value-PRINCIPLE
YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEND 300 K€ for your " home" : by 100% cash payment. !


A market price decrease in average -90% in the G7- B.I.Z.- member estates is not a " crash" but a regress to normal organized and controled market value / price ratio ! cash-value markets !

B.I.Z.-programs " Basel I,II,...V,..."  is the way back to minimize credit -part by buying-actions ,as demanded by laws !
In future the parlaments has their credit-potential limited, also the F.E.D. and ECB and the british Pound-currency administration ( Yen,Yuan, ....  included )
The B.I.Z. is the international finance " Mother"- bank with supervision and controle function, above the IWF  and Worldbank !

Ancient treatment by church constitution and their society : who worked against the Commandments became
" exkommuniziert/excommunicated" / " Vogelfre/outlaw"- Deklaration, included all the family. !

I can see the world future extreme conservative and extreme progressive !

 From" seller market" we we will come to " buyer market" :
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/155734/umfrage/wohneigentumsquoten-in-europa/                                               "home ownership"-definition by law :
" Eigentuemer versus Besitzer : both translated with  "owner", in real extreme different !

The given numbers are wrong : the real maximal average ownership- by law definition-  in E.U. : +/- 20%
                                                                       80% inhabitants/users/ tenants !

with the first € credit you loose the ownership about the creditized ware, you becomes " ware user/debtor"  : the ownership = 100% Creditor up to the 100% repayment moment. !
many old people ( Germany average age : 45 years ~ pre-" six feed under" quality ) has to sell their homes  for paying medical treatment,
singles without family to pay " old home place" with average 3000 € per month;

because a modern C.N.C. administrated society need up to 80% less human workers, much from the last  needed 20% human work can become outsourced to " low income costs"-countries the salaries decrease-pressure in geral will grow up ;

full time jobs will become divided in half-time jobs ( probably in future 50/50 male/female employment quote law)

C.N.C. shortens production time up to 90% = up to 90% less human work salary : no work= no payment
Positive : the less dependent work = more unpayed freetime can become invested in independent "DIY-productivity" ! Self-sufficiency. !

Up to less 90% salary respond with up to less 90% consumer ware costs :buying the needed " no name"-material kit (+ plan) fob factory in group = -90% less expensive

BTW : how much weight 300 K€ ? If we speak/think about currencies we speak/think about cash values :           the only currency value = coin + material

           we can give "coin"- credit to the several " central banks" and receive : a "central bank"- ( debit-)note/NOTE
           the paper in your purse is the first kind of credit, without capital tax !

           Central Bank = Debtor with all time 100% exchange warranty to coins !
          Central Banks have not other function ! TAFEL/Tisch= Banca"- Wechsel/Exchange Geschaefte/Negotiation   
           If not the 100% warranty converseable = illiquid = BANCA-rotta ( bankrupt : banca + ruptura )
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« Reply #4418 on: August 15, 2019, 08:12:44 PM »
Understanding  micro-economy from macro-economy view :
applied Paretto/King Davenant "saturation" laws
https://www.bpb.de/system/files/datei/EUR_05_T1_detail.svg

                                        progressive saturated         -  obere qualitative Meridian

10% surplus offer ( seller market): (12,2+14)/2  : 19,6  ~ 66,8 % =  classical theory 30% price decrease

                                        progressive over-saturated - untere quantitative Meridian

20% surplus offer ( buyer market) :           4          : 19,6 ~  20,4% = classical theory  80% price decrease


This happened 1987-89 with the US saving&loan banks fiasco and later with the Nomura-Crash begin ( new 0,5 ground tax) and at first Nikkei then WallStreet , .....

1990 german trillion DM -credit for " 10 units to east and 9 units back to west" western economy help program.

This happened 1990/1991 : E.C.U. destroy and credit-market crunching

This happened 2006-2009 with the US "surplus ware " house market and the worlwide toxic pappers sold with this immobiliar waste as warranty

And this is actually selling politics in all the G20 estates. !

Classical theory tells the truth about the economical game result !

Credit assessment basis ( Kredit bemessungsgrundlage)  + credit mortgage lending value( Kreditbeleihungswert)

are later seen as credit/ cash selling price coverage :
                                             legal auction ( classical : by 100% cash payment)

1.Termin/ aution day :  70% limit from book-value                       

2.                                      50% limit
3.                                      30% limit, after " zu jeden Preis" !  Ramsch/Junk

The actual house market price?  Only the cah part/sqm  ? With Paretto/King-Davenant "negative price lever" ?

The greatest looser from an Euro-collaps :
1. Luxemburg
2. Ireland
3. Spain
4. Belgium
5. Slowenien
6. Finland
7. Greece
based by their accumulated explizit and implizit estate debits :

total Maastricht estate debit limit for EURO-" sane fitness" : 60% explizit + implizit

https://m.focus.de/finanzen/boerse/verdeckte-verbindlichkeiten-luxemburg-ist-der-wahre-schuldenkoenig-europas_id_10254123.html
Italy can afford an Euro-exit. !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchattenverschuldung
A scale with private household debt but without "estate hidden debt/implizit debt"
https://de.irefeurope.org/doc1830
 only private household debt ranking
https://de.irefeurope.org/doc1831
Global ranking ? Explizit + implizit estate debt + commercial debt + private household
                                   / trade surplus or trade losts

Probably the fitter Euro-members makes with PR China land-barter :PR China gets as new colony Luxemburg and the " better E. U. " gets as change Hong Kong or Macao !  ;D
Land-barter is something common : Sansibar for Helgoland f.e.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4419 on: October 08, 2019, 06:38:12 AM »
Watching the news today with all it's drama and I thought... I'm starting to like Donald Trump.

I mean he basically won a presidential election by gaslighting his opponents and his own party, he gave all his billionaire friends and himself a massive tax break at the taxpayers expense... and they cheered. He slashed and burned social services like health care and education then raped all environmental controls and regulations... and they cheered. He blockaded the border and threw children into cages and made racism great again ... and they cheered. He did everything they said he shouldn't do because it's corrupt and said whatever he wanted despite everyone's objections and ran his administration like the mafia... and they cheered. Now with record debt and an economy slowly spiraling downward into oblivion they still cheer.

You see it takes a great man to show how morally bankrupt an entire nation has become for all to see and an even greater salesman to convince them to burn it to the ground. I suspect Mr.Trump is going to light up a big old cigar and just waltz out of the white house without a scratch on him no worse for wear whispering... so long suckers. I mean it's epic that one man could have such a profound effect on so many people bringing out the best and as we can see the worst in them. All hail Trump, All hail Trump

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« Reply #4420 on: October 10, 2019, 10:22:55 PM »
To all Americans and more.
You should listen to what he is saying about the current financial situation, not just the US, Doug Casey.
Just listen to first 13 minutes and then briefly talk about 22 minutes.
Because this is a phone call, you must enable the text script.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=787&v=MeGRKuYfyak

And this is also the final warning for both Trump, the CIA and the Bankers.
You will make some hostile move and God (*) will end your existence.
And now God (*) is only on our side.
www.kwfs.livejournal.com

(With a temperature of 10 million degrees.)

Heil!


(*) Satan es ist wirklich!

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« Reply #4421 on: October 11, 2019, 02:16:14 AM »
NKE
Wow, that was a really thought provoking post ... Oh look a squirrel.

I think a 16 year old girl named Greta Thunberg said it best “We are at the beginning of mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth,”.

Obviously, unlimited growth, like a virus with limited resources and space to expand is unsustainable and must result in extinction.
I mean it's so common sense and intuitive that even a fool should be able to understand the concept but apparently many do not.
It's a sorry state of affairs when I can listen to 2 years of Trumps word salads and it means little if nothing then a little 16 year old girl makes him look like an imbecile for stating the obvious.

Obviously the population and the economy cannot keep growing because we will run out of resources and space, period, end of debate.


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« Reply #4422 on: October 11, 2019, 08:48:08 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2F2019-10%2Fgrossbritannien-boris-johnson-no-deal-medien%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab

                       Controle and separation of power ( staatliche " ordentliche" Gewaltenteilung)

Legislative, Jurisdikative, Exekutive

Instanz :     Scottish Supreme Court

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Kingdom

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGericht_der_Europ%25C3%25A4ischen_Union

                   The Court for the Europarat/Council of Europe : https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=gerichtshof+des+europarates+englisch&oq=gerichtshof+des+europarates+englisch&aqs=heirloom-srp..

         Since when, in which democratic estates, the government does not be part from the parliament

             = the " Legislative" 

          ( the government is executing the Will-wish/ Volonte/Willen from the parliament majority. !)

         and like as seen by this scottish judge :   parted : parliament = Legislative and government= Exekutive  ::)

       Constitutional Monarchies comparison !? : Sweden ,Danmark,"Luxemburg",Belgium,Spain,Netherlands

Beside "President/Monarch" impeachment act also for Legislative, Jurisdicative- and Executive- members. ?
http://www.olivercromwell.org/wordpress/?page_id=1417
" impeachment" ~ NORMKONTROLLVERFAHREN : KONSTITUTIONSKONFORMITAET. 1:1

Amtstraeger : Wuerden-/Buerden-Traeger unter Amts-EID oder - SCHWUR, einige zu Haenden " einer Bible "

No political correctness, constitutional correctness.  !  REVIEW. ! AND COMPENSATION. !


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IsvfofcIE1Q
                         "Bonner Republik"

2:21 Herbert Fram later known as Willy Brandt, Oslo-Nobel-Yury-Award
         Beside him : Heribert Wehner " Sie Nebelkraehe  ! " , Polizisten-Moerder und spaeterer:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                      Bundes-Tag-s-Abgeordneter

EIDESSTATTLICHE ERKLAERUNG UND KEINE VERKLAERUNG WIRD ERWARTET.  !
WIR ALLE ARBEITEN AUF DEN " LICHTEN TAG" HIN. ! FUER VIELE ERFOLGT DARAUF " NACHT"
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« Reply #4423 on: October 11, 2019, 11:20:54 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpolitik%2FUSA-schuetzen-Diplomaten-Gattin-vor-Strafe-article21325899.html
nuechtern : fahrlaessige Toetung
unter Drogeneinfluss : vorsaetzlicher Totschlag ,knapp vor "Mord"
Das ist das Strafmasz. !
Haftstrafe !
UNFALLFLUCHT  !  OPFER NOCH LEBEND NACH DEM UNFALL?  UNTERLASSENE (NOT-)HILFELEISTUNG  !
+ Schmerzensgeld. !

Hoehe  ? Geschworenengericht entscheidet : Referenz Monsanto und aehnlich hohe Verurteilungen. !

(Diplomatische)  Immunitaet bezieht sich auf politisches Wirken,  nicht inbegriffen zivil-/strafrechtliche Vergehen der "Immunitaetstraeger" und derer Angehoeriger  ! AUTOMATISCHE IMMUNITAETSAUFHEBUNG. !
Was Internationale Norm darstellt : Doyen/Nuntius als Ratgeber

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« Reply #4424 on: October 12, 2019, 10:26:39 AM »
I see ( Vision,Futurism) an economic disaster ( by humans -planned  !?-) coming ( no other solution/ alternative !?)


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster

https://www.google.com/search?q=schumpeter&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=hayek&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=meynard+keynes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=kenneth+galbraith&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=friedrich+von+weizsaecker&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=amory+lovins&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=faith+popcorn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=alvin+toffler&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

Did they all publicated their works only for the : biblia/book/ bibliotheque or liber/book/library or to become their
work read and studied for preservation about a WWIII risk ,then real worldwide : in each household  !?


 "Master/Maestro/Maire/Meister also called King/ Majestas " strategy game : " war on a table" 

                                                 Chess - eChess - Mephisto echess
                  the first machine which destroyed the human world chess champion : SCHACH-MATT/MATE
                  2019 : "Mephisto" in a really low level compared with " AlphaGo Zero"- neuronal process
                  one really long chess game ? 

                  Quantum computering ( for special case coordinated)  10000 years to 200 seconds

                  Quantum computering court by " RAM + ROM CONSTITUTION  library as memory "

                 DEMOCRACY WORK OUT TOOLS IN LAB PROGRESS

                 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames  who begins the game  ? Where to "drop the first stone"  ?
               


 

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