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Offline triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4395 on: March 01, 2018, 03:32:05 PM »
The middle class in the USA will get smaller than it is today.The upper ten percent of the top one percent will continue to get richer as they are able to buy the politicians vote on tax laws that benefit them and put the tax burden on the rest of us.At least this is what I see happening.Also our elected leaders will continue to lie to us on different issues.Mostly taxes.Maybe a war or two.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4396 on: March 01, 2018, 06:19:46 PM »
                                   Where is your rich/poor frontier line ?


 Is this a quantitative or qualitative definition by yourself or common knowledge ?
                                            Pareto-maths included ?
                           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle


But is in this empirical math-model(l) and the stated result not one syntax-error about rich/poor statements? 
                                              Erbe/heranca/heritage
When has the grand-parents,later the parents,later their childs to give or receive
                                      -the ancients their culture/material property-             
                      to manage this possible richdom for the "generation (over-)next" ?

For example using the german "finance property" piramide numbers(actual study) from the base up :


the first 25% from the private households : negative up to zero finance
the next 50%                                             : zero up to 15000 Euros


not much comparing with new car prices( there are many "Diesel-positive" cases now) or new household furniture and kitchen prices ( up to 75000 Euros)

This are households living from salary and/or pension liquidity,
now this society will become stressed for the next decades by the TIER and 4.th industrial and service [size=78%]industry revolution,with work places diminuation, in geral 50% and in the service sector -for example banking- up to 90% as reported by Price Waterhouse and Centralbank -studies !

             Also the Estate administrations worldwide will outsizing "men power",
           if not friendly and by "common sense" then "mobbing included" and other
                   " junk bodies burning-out strategies".

Why shall the US-economy household be different and not as same as the european household ?


                                                 Looking to the Dollar
                                             and the short-form symbol :
                                                          S for silver
(ancient silver-standard; the european,better:empirial Habsburger, KarlV-Thaler which was used in the european colonies, now -since 1776- known as U.S.A.,as common accepted money)


                                                and the  "holy Parity"-strings
as centralbank-warranty( Federal Bank of Reserve) that the notes/bonds/obrigations are guaranted by the deposited silver/gold reserves in the 1:1 parity
             


It will be really interstant how the "emitted and/or printed" trillions(english)(billions in german  )of
U.S.-american Dollar=Thaler debt will become paid in hard -material-cash value to the credit holder !
               
Sincerely
               OCWL

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4397 on: March 05, 2018, 11:46:17 PM »
Quote
"...looking for the population?
cross the south bridge, they all moved out."
--sm0ky2

Well, really, prices have risen on houses for, say, 59 straight months, running.
       They're coming from somewhere, aren't they?
Just saying...

--Lee
       On a more economic topic, I saw this about 20 minutes ago:

https://www.thenational.ae/business/money/is-the-stock-market-volatility-over-or-are-we-due-a-full-blown-crash-1.710334

This reporter above basically indicates---to my understanding---there are more players to be 'taken down' by a big slump; if there is one on the horizon---as some say.
Oh, yeah:
       I'm staying in a homeless shelter and 2-3 times a week I see an ambulance pull up and take another sufferer of the Great Recession+ (plus sign) to a local hospital.
       NOW, I think I have the reason:   
       The unfortunately indigent lowest income San Franciscians have so little money, they're physically starving to death.   The city Fathers don't want tourism to fall off, so the ambulances are kept busy.
       But MORE starvation is coming, I believe, and worse:   Baby Boomers are getting to be 70-80 yrs. old, and then the winter rains and cold will begin thinning out their numbers, so to speak.
       The same will happen in other parts of the country---especially in the North and Northeast.
The social ramifications may be enormous.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4397 on: March 05, 2018, 11:46:17 PM »
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4398 on: March 08, 2018, 03:43:07 PM »
I guess cancer will thin out the herd of baby boomers too.This week I just heard , one of my friends was told he has pancreatic cancer.He expressed hope that he could survive 10 to 11 years with treatment.Went from a size 44 waist to a 32inch waist in the last two months.He was told hes in stage two.Means its spreading to other tissues.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4399 on: March 08, 2018, 03:50:50 PM »

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=salmon+cannon&view=detail&mid=BF6E1E4B66729B4FF97DBF6E1E4B66729B4FF97D&FORM=VIRE


On a more positive note I just heard about a salmon cannon that helps salmon get over dams during spawning season.
Hope the link works.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4400 on: March 08, 2018, 05:52:18 PM »
Something about economic system confidence :
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/finanzmarkt/beate-uhse-glaeubiger-sollen-nur-18-70-euro-bekommen-15483519.html


obligation/bond investment   1000    Euros
Return of  Investment                18.7 Euros


ergo:                                           1,87 % Insolvency-quote
in the 80` the geral Insolvency-quote(Ex-Massekonkursquote) has been also < 5%


                                             it does not surprise,
                                       macro-economical calculation


                    new object    nominal brutto 120 Units (brutto: Mehrwert-/Umsatzsteuer,IVA,tax)
                                                      netto   100 Units (netto: tax excluded)
                   used object     
finance-technical "Niederstwert"-principle       netto/net       30 Units
 Abschreibung fuer Amortisation,progressive netto/net         7,5 Units   
sub-prime quote max.,2.Rang,risc tax           netto/net         6   Units
prime rate quote max.,1.Rang                        netto/net         4,5 Units       


 worldwide there is a 4,5/100 Syntax error in "the central banks books":
                    95% bad "junk" central bank and 5%=Rest "good" central bank


actually: JP Morgan Bank warns about more than 40% share price decrease in the next years


                                    good economy and bad economy
                                    good society    and bad society


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kurz_(philosopher)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzbuch_Kapitalismus
                  Schwarzbuch_Kapitalismus (Individual) ~ Schwarzbuch_Kommunismus (Social)
                  Weissbuch                               Weissbuch 


I like more the Kontradjef/Elliott Wave Theory,also studied by Schumpeter
and the autocratic Darwin/Galton/Gauss Evolution-Process  :
                                      Schoepferische Zerstoerung
                                         Constructive Destruction


They-see-also-something-coming: https://www.clubofrome.org/activities/reports/


                                about creativity and local/global problems-solving :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrich_Altshuller and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ


                                                  about "shelter" ideas ,
                                                           using
 Harvard University architecture network competition (Elementals social housing,jovoto 300$ house)
 Federation of American Scientists "social housing" program numbers
 UN-ESCO/-Habitat information 
 and the native Kobenhavn-Piraterepublik-spirit from www.N55.dk


                              https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas


                                          extraordinary example:
               https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12769
               comparing F.A.S.org social house "Expanded Family 78-72 sqm"
                                                                    " Starter     Family 38-32 sqm" numbers 
                                               


         

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4401 on: March 11, 2018, 12:13:28 PM »
Ob-Dach-los/"Heimat"-Vertriebene in german,sem abrigo/sem terra in portuguese,home-less in english


                                            Sociology (economy-right-common sense) science :
       existential body/mind "wellness feeling" needs -by cultural view without "luxury(Lukullus)" :


                  a. organized project https://www.tamera.org/
                 
                  b. by self decision as low/zero-fingerprint-organisation and off-grid,
                      but not off-society ,probably a barter-economy (tit for tat)


                      shelter,food+water,warm/fresh ambiental climate conditioning,health


                     shelter : the Harvard University jovoto 300US$ competition
                                   https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas

                                   or the Harvard University social-housing "Elemental" architecture competition
                                   https://br.pinterest.com/explore/elemental-chile/

                                   ~ 3rd "BAUHAUS"-competition,social housing  for Santiago de Chile/Chile
                                       1st."Weissenhof-Siedlung,Stuttgart" https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus


                     food: eco-farming and permaculture,aquaponds
https://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/rex-oberhelman-zmaz86mazgoe?SlideShow=1
                             http://getsustainablenow.org/slp/ecogenics/intro.html

                             http://rexresearch.com/murray/murray.htm

                             http://canlaser.com/en/Deserts.aspx



                                                             energy :


                                   mtbest.net (Australia) 800Whmax per day (? consumer)
                                   http://mtbest.net/household_efficiency.pdf
                                   consume down to 400Whmax per day by resonance circuit use

                                   energy-source: refillable water-to-electricity-battery

                                   Scottish eco-pioneer Kerr "glow zone" applied
                                   https://richsoil.com/electric-heat.jsp
                                   https://youtu.be/CqJoXyBuxRw

                                  how much heat/cold is per body needed ?
                                  a.wet/dry air condition
                                  b. standing/flowing-streaming air condition


                                  (relatively) naked versus enclosed body
                   physical temperature versus psychological "feeling" temperature

                                  -110° C    wellness chamber
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUuCKjfhbO8

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyY_-brFt8c
                                  Anti-cancer treatment ? cancer-cells are (relatively) hotter can healthy cells

                                  how long in minutes,hours,days,weeks,months
                                  -110 C up to 0°C up to 15°C body/mind healthy
                                  with
                                  a. Bikini


                                  b. conventional hot/cold whe(a)ter/Wetter wear

                                  c. Thermo-/Cryo-body-Overall (like in the "DUNE"-movie)

                                  d. Thermo-/Cryo-body-Overall + hot/cool- Tex-coating
                                      Tex-coating:
                                      https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11044
We painted a pair of socks with combo 2 and our socks warmed up so much in 5 minutes we couldn't even wear them any longer because of the heat.

                                  d. heat watch https://newatlas.com/wristify-thermoelectric-bracelet/29543/
                                       They discovered that a change of 0.1° C (0.18° F) a second is the minimum rate required to make the entire body feel several degrees warmer or colder.


                                  e. e-wear : low electricity consume down to 12 W per body
By wearing clothes that have been dip-coated in a silver nanowire (AgNW) solution that is highly radiation-insulating, a person may stay so warm in the winter that  they can greatly reduce or even eliminate their need for heating their home
                                      http://rexresearch.com/cuinanoagwire/cuinanoag.html
                                      + portable e-source

             shelter eco-infrastructure : f.e. http://www.geolitesystems.com/

                                  sheltered body ?
                                  emergency camp,U.N.-rescue camp standart :   
                     based by bubble foil insulation like the trademarks reflectix or astrofoil                                      https://web.archive.org/web/20070523081016/http://www.shelterdomes.co.uk:80/
                                      DIAM 6M    (ground area 28 sq m)

                for this example:  from 0° to 20°C : 1000 W/28sqm heat need
                                 + shelter-coating          :   500 W/28sqm
               shelter-coating: https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11044

                with Far IR heater or heat pump     :   100 W/28sqm electricity
                with "specific generator"                :   zero-outer electricity/28sqm
                                                                          zero energy building standart


               Germany/E.U. energy building standart :


          Altbau
          konventioneller Neubau
          Niedrigenergiehaus(NEH,KFW 70-50)     
          Nearly Zero Energie building 2020- E.U. construction standart > 50 sqm
          Passiv-house(new building art 1995) 2018 open source industrial standart  http://isorast.de/
          Net Zero energy building   
         Zero energy building or Off-grid or Active
                                                       
                                                            "emergency or picknik package"
                           https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12607
                           https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12735
                           https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12491

                                  glamour+ camping= glamping with tents,domes,caravans,trailers
                                  https://glampinghub.com/portugal/alentejo/

                                  inflatable bubble hotel
                                  https://travelaway.me/sleep-in-a-bubble/



                                 How much kilo-calories/Joules/Wh alimentation per capita,which diversivity
                                 under outside climate dependance and body-work per hour ?
                                           https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern%C3%A4hrungspyramide#/media/Datei%3AUSDA_Food_Pyramid.gif
                                    a.  "...unser taeglich Brot gib uns heute..."
                                    b. Buddhism mongue/Mao "taegliche Reisschale"


                                 a. bread/rice or wheat mass(nuddles) and water and fat oil( f.e. sunflower)
                                 b. 500Gr. bread and 1 Ltr. milk   and 0,1 Ltr. fat oil
                                    ~ 320 Gr. Kohlenhydrate 75 Gr. Proteine > 80 Gr. Fette
                           
                          the comercial -essential and basic -alimentation value/price per month,G7-estates :
                                                25 Euros per capita
                                                ------------------
                                                  6 Euros wheat (0,4 Euros/Kg wheat flour)
                                                 15 Euros milk  (0,5 Euros /Lt.)
                                                   4 Euros sunflower oil (1,3 Euros/Lt.)
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4402 on: March 29, 2018, 03:22:57 PM »

Of course, wearing clothing made completely of silver would be impractical and uncomfortable, not to mention expensive. A main reason for this discomfort is that silver, like all metals, is not breathable. For example, Mylar blankets, which are made of aluminum and plastic, are extremely warm but are not vapor-permeable, causing moisture to accumulate on a person's skin.
 The new AgNW-coated clothing, on the other hand, is breathable due to the nanowires' porous structure. The large spacing between nanowires of about 300 nm offers plenty of room for water vapor molecules, which are about 0.2 nm, to pass through. The 300-nm spacing is still much too small to allow body heat to pass through, since human body radiation has a wavelength of about 9 µm and so interacts with the nanowire cloth as if it were a continuous metal film, and is reflected.
Thanks so much IancaIV for the info.The future can be an exciting place to be.triffid

 

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