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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #855 on: January 15, 2011, 02:16:14 PM »
I bought one of those at a garage sale for 50 cents one time.I really mean learn how to use friction like a bow and string or striking two flints together.Camping stores would have the magnesium fire starting kits.For about 10 dollars or just collect books of matches and keep them in an airtight,waterproof jar.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #856 on: January 15, 2011, 02:20:33 PM »

lint from the dryer makes good firestarting material.collect some of that and store it in a waterproof jar.
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #857 on: January 15, 2011, 02:30:14 PM »
I as a kid used to pick up flint rock from the railroad tracks.Strike them together to make sparks.Aim the sparks into your dryer lint,gently blow on the sparks to get smoke and a small flame,add paper and small sticks of wood.Build up your fire slowly and gently.U can also preserve coals from the fire the night before.Get a pan to put live coals in,not dead ones,cover with ash to keep the air away from them so they don't burn out overnight.Build your new fire from the old coals.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #858 on: January 15, 2011, 09:10:38 PM »
I as a kid used to pick up flint rock from the railroad tracks.Strike them together to make sparks.Aim the sparks into your dryer lint,gently blow on the sparks to get smoke and a small flame,add paper and small sticks of wood.Build up your fire slowly and gently...
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...Camping stores would have the magnesium fire starting kits.For about 10 dollars or just collect books of matches and keep them in an airtight,waterproof jar.triffid
That second quote is important:  Keep it dry.
The magnesium starters cheat, compared to the traditional purist hobbyist(?), right?  But survival comes first, so:  CHEAT!!!!!

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #859 on: January 15, 2011, 10:47:33 PM »
don't forget,you need to know how make fire without matches.triffid
steel wool and a 9volt... or sticks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frksQmPaX7U

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #860 on: January 16, 2011, 04:27:35 PM »
I have heard stories where a paper match is split into ten pieces that can be struck carefully to start a fire.I like the steel wool and battery trick.You can pick up stray pieces of metal with a magnet from any parking lot or road.And use them to spark a fire the same way as with steelwool.Those small pieces of metal will burn too with an electric current going through them.They will burn in an fire that is already going.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #861 on: January 16, 2011, 04:47:11 PM »
I have heard stories where a paper match is split into ten pieces that can be struck carefully to start a fire.I like the steel wool and battery trick.You can pick up stray pieces of metal with a magnet from any parking lot or road.And use them to spark a fire the same way as with steelwool.Those small pieces of metal will burn too with an electric current going through them.They will burn in an fire that is already going.triffid
yup, the steel wool/9volt works great, i've used it many times. one can also use a pencil and a car battery. in fact any source, even very low voltage such as an AA, and a resistive material will work.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #862 on: January 16, 2011, 09:51:45 PM »
I have heard stories where a paper match is split into ten pieces that can be struck carefully to start a fire.I like the steel wool and battery trick.You can pick up stray pieces of metal with a magnet from any parking lot or road.And use them to spark a fire the same way as with steelwool.Those small pieces of metal will burn too with an electric current going through them.They will burn in an fire that is already going.triffid
I did finally see the YouTube video with the new battery and steel wool.
Alright!!!!!!
They didn't teach that in Boy Scouts, but they did have firestarting contests at camp during gatherings.   "Jamborees", they called them.

The battery and steel wool is something to remember.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #863 on: January 17, 2011, 02:43:21 AM »
Want to know what you will look like in 30 more years.Try this website.   http://www.morphster.com/path/c/2/1/1     triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #864 on: January 19, 2011, 10:10:28 PM »
just neededto park this link somewhere.  http://www.topyields.nl/Top-dividend-yields-of-Dividend-Aristocrats.php   triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #865 on: January 20, 2011, 02:27:32 AM »
just neededto park this link somewhere.  http://www.topyields.nl/Top-dividend-yields-of-Dividend-Aristocrats.php   triffid
My paternal grandmother gave me, and my brother and sister one (1) share of GM stock.  Since there was a hassle over declaring it's approximate value in income reporting statements to state and local governments, I sold mine for whatever I could get for it.  I only made about $10.00 in dividends for 30 year's time.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #866 on: January 20, 2011, 06:09:02 PM »
Get your meals ready to eat now!!!   http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&rlz=&q=meals+ready+to+eat+for+sale&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=9750890156269978675&ei=Hms4TYrfHofUgQfymeH8CA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEUQ8wIwBA#    While you still can.What happened in greece will happen here.You may have only 2 to 3 years left to get yours.triffid
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #867 on: January 20, 2011, 09:47:24 PM »
This auction site claims to sell things for pennies on the dollar.   http://www.quibids.com/landing/index.php?v=2     triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #868 on: January 21, 2011, 02:49:51 AM »
...You can pick up stray pieces of metal with a magnet from any parking lot or road.And use them to spark a fire the same way as with steelwool. ...
Aren't those filings iron oxide?  Steel wool is actually iron metal, not the oxide, so it doesn't need to get rid of the oxygen atoms in the oxide molecule, so as to ignite.

Beach sand has lots of iron in it.  An electromagnet picks up filings pretty easy.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #869 on: January 21, 2011, 02:05:21 PM »
 A lot of those steel particles can still burn some more.However you are right,they are not steel wool.I do know if you toss them in a fire that is already burning.They will spark up the fire.I think therefore if you will collect enough to make a small pile then run an electric current through it.Like from a 9 volt battery.then it should  heat up enough to start a fire. I do tend to make assumptions sometimes.This may have been one of them.Better carry a glass lens in your pocket to focus the suns rays when the sun is shining. You can at least have fire part of the time.triffid