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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #810 on: December 23, 2010, 03:14:24 AM »
I put two large solar panels together to charge up a car battery(keep it topped off).Each put out about 18 volts for a total of 80 watts.80 watts per hour of sunlight.So if I used it once a week ora little  more the system provided enough power.I used only 12 volt tv,radio and lights.
You live in a house where the landlord doesn't have the right to barge in and look at everything you have.  I'm in an apartment, so that's out.  But the two panels you had still would have worked in my case on a small battery, even if I had an inverter.  I only used my electric shaver about 5 minutes a day.
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An invertor wastes power.
Yeah, small inverters aren't very efficient.  I just didn't have the money to buy better parts at the time.
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So I kept it real simple.keep all wires less than 20 feet long or DC losses kick in.
Heavy wire for long lengths and very heavy wire for very long wire runs can keep losses to a minimum.  Heavy wire is expensive, though.
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I placed the two solar panels in my living room windows.I maintained that system for 8 years.triffid
Very good.  That'll work, even through glass windows.  They need to be clean, however, but they should work.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #811 on: December 23, 2010, 05:16:18 AM »
I hate to be all gloom and doom.Here was a refreshing story on Gma this morning.                                                http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/ConsumerNews/savings-makeover-york-family-nets-58288/story?id=12452935

they were able to save this family $58,000 a year.
Good, triffid.
However, I do have some rather "doom & gloom" news:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/22/news/economy/build_america_bonds/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

I wondered why the City of San Francisco was fixing so many sidewalks a couple of years ago.  Now I know.
It's about to end for a fairly large number of cities.

I expect this will have some impact on the building/construction trade industry.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #812 on: December 28, 2010, 11:28:35 PM »
something amusing to look at.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZbIs89Mk0&feature=player_embedded    The worlds smallest solar powered electric car.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #813 on: December 28, 2010, 11:32:34 PM »

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #814 on: December 29, 2010, 03:18:44 AM »
something amusing to look at.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZbIs89Mk0&feature=player_embedded    The worlds smallest solar powered electric car.triffid
Well, I did see this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/07/earlyshow/main4998592.shtml

I'll have to try and wait 'til it stops raining here in San Francisco to see the video.  They won't allow me to watch YouTube here where I am now.

On topic:
http://bigpeace.com/jxenakis/2010/11/19/stability-of-europe-threatened-by-ireland-financial-crisis/
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?r=bp33&d=ww2010.i.garrett071009

That second article is a "hum-dinger", so to speak.  We're Germany in the 1930's and China is the U.S. in the 1930's.  Almost the same situation with a whole lot more money in circulation.

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Re: I see an economic vdsdiasater coming...
« Reply #815 on: December 30, 2010, 03:41:02 AM »
http://snardfarker.ning.com/profile/bigjohnlipscomb 
i watched big jhns dvds on secret gardens and how to make a water filter.
it gave me hope that people could survive a collapse. triffid

http://snardfarker.ning.com/forum/categories/survivalism-and-gardening/listForCategory

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #816 on: December 30, 2010, 05:42:42 PM »
want to build an underground bunker?     
As far as burying yourself in the ground goes, it seems to me that it would be bad for morale in the long run, but if you are interested in how to dig a big hole safely, look up the digging techniques used to dig basements for houses. To summarize, plan for a ramp about 3-4 times longer than the hole is deep, or use a track hoe and go from one end to the other. Just bear in mind the method that you intend to use to get the container/structure down into the hole when you decide how to do it. What I would consider the ideal setup for concealability is a metalic container buried under 18-36 inches of earth near a stream that you could wing dam for power, metalic cased well sunk inside the container with the casing welded to the container, and shielded wires running from the hydro unit to the container, shield grounded to the container and in the stream. Probably still be radar detectable, but it would look a lot smaller than it actually was. A round tank will give a lot smaller radar return than a square container. If you stay in one place for long enough, you will be found. If you stay on the move, you may be found, but you have a chance at doing the finding, and then dealing with the situation on your own terms. Either way, if you are set on a worst case, it might be good to be ready to die, because any way you go, it is a certainty sooner or later. Personally, I do not think that the situation is hopeless yet, so I am putting the bulk of my energy right now into salvaging it, and only a little bit into preparing for it's collapse.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #817 on: December 30, 2010, 05:45:24 PM »
I would consider carrying a tent with me.Backpack with tent.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #818 on: December 30, 2010, 06:04:44 PM »
Just some guy ranting and raving but I share his views.It could be me in this video.     http://snardfarker.ning.com/video/joblesshouselessrecovery-lets     
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #819 on: December 30, 2010, 06:59:09 PM »
For your amusement......http://snardfarker.ning.com/forum/topics/even-rats-prefer-organic-food      Be sure to check out" grocery store wars".  triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #820 on: December 31, 2010, 03:05:25 AM »
Concerning Reply #819,
I saw the hole show on a recreation of what the people in London went through with the German Blitzkrieg.  There was a then-current, traditionally-built bomb bunker/shelter next to a traditionally-built set of 2 story buildings.

The re-creators blasted the buildings and bunker with ever larger simulated explosive charges as 'bombs'

The bunker didn't stand up the the final blast from a simulated V-2 rocket.  Don't count on an underground shelter unless you really know how to build them to tolerate a nuclear blast.  If you do build a strong one, they can also be used as a cellar for storage.  Very useful.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #821 on: December 31, 2010, 05:25:24 AM »
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/     this is a program to help you design your electronics.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #822 on: January 03, 2011, 07:20:57 AM »
This guy will not be paying $5.00 a gallon gas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmGYBrCKgk&NR=1&feature=fvwp

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #823 on: January 04, 2011, 01:36:56 AM »
I have a good tip for somebody.Those plasma balls you see for sale for about $40.00 will light up gas filled light bulbs with touching or without touching the plasma ball.They transmit enough energy to ionize the gas inside the bulbs or tubes.So maybe you can get more lighting for less money?The light bulbs may be burned out but you can still ionize the gas in them. triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #824 on: January 04, 2011, 02:29:09 AM »
Solar powered cooling of your home today!   http://www.popbuying.com           triffid