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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #465 on: April 06, 2010, 03:53:33 AM »
  Win what for who?
Nothing for anyone.  I more than agree with the paragraph below.  Absolutely, yes.

I expect the economy to collapse in due course, and when it does, those American and NATO troops will be in 'dire straits', as it were, when most or all their home countries no longer have the wherewithal to provide support for them.  That's why "we can't win", no matter what.

Referring to the rest of the paragraph:
You're entirely correct in the gist.  American and world leaders have let down their constituents by poor economic and legal policies to the point that collapse is imminent.  No one country's government has lasted long, to this day.  They always begin and end, one way or another.  This country is no different.  It'll come.

I'm nobody great; I don't have the ability to influence people to think differently and allow them to save themselves.  I've seen in history where, usually, religious leaders like the Pharaoh Akhenaten tried to change the prevailing beliefs of his countrymen and was eventually rejected.  Anyone who thinks way differently than those around them and then voices their opinion often becomes a target for attacks.  Also, historically, the Mayan empire collapse from war, famine or both.  They all do.

What to do?  The best we can, given the circumstances?  Complaining, especially if one can prove their arguments convincingly, will often result in martyrdom.

As Cap-Z-ro said:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8835.msg231896;topicseen#msg231896
Pg. 4, Reply #46

I'll wait to see what happens.

--Lee

 

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #466 on: April 06, 2010, 11:34:49 PM »
The U.S. population is on a train wreck with outnumbering the Social Security System. Everybody get your number right here! We already have a number anyway. The implant is on your property and flesh not your skin. Just like in Revelation.

Yellow stone is going to be detonated on June 10, 2010. Oh dear a national disaster. My what shall we do? Uncle Sam will help us, right? Never let a good commotion go unused... Muhahahah!

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #467 on: April 07, 2010, 07:18:17 PM »
I have been checking out solar cell kits on ebay($170.00 for 108 solar cells)And found 144 solar cells for $150 from another buyer so thats enough for 7 solar panels at $47.71 per solar panel that still needs to be put together.So the basic cost for me would be $47.71 for the solar cells.Then diodes out of old tv's,radios,computers,and wire from old cords,extension cords too.Old outdoor paint from garage sales.Some pieces of wood I would want to buy if I couldn't salvage it.Not counting my time
I might be able to keep the total cost down around 60-65 dollars a panel.Not bad for solar panels that the powers that be are determined to make everybody keep paying a premium for the next hundred years.triffid

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #468 on: April 07, 2010, 07:28:42 PM »
So if we assume 60 watts for each panel then 7 times 60watts equals 420 watts.For a cost of $420(if the panels cost $60.00 each).Thats 1 dollar per watt.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #469 on: April 07, 2010, 07:34:14 PM »
So if we want to generate 3 kilowatts per hour.You need 50 solar panels on the roof
So 50 panels times $60.00 dollars equals $3000.Or $1500 if you want a 1.5 kilowatt system(25 panels).triffid

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Rather than start a new thread on my new-found reference...
« Reply #470 on: April 08, 2010, 07:30:07 PM »
...I'll just explain my position, thusly:
...I'll wait to see what happens.

There is actually something I can do, but it's specific to me:

I'm buying cans of food and containers of spring water ahead of the time when the economy will probably be gravely affected by several, or many, crisis-es.
There's something else:
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/reac.htm

I live is a controlled access, low income high rise that's been earthquake retrofitted.  If the power fails, one of the systems described in the Internet page above can be utilized by me.

So, I actually can do something in the future if and when the situation becomes dire.

--Lee

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #471 on: April 09, 2010, 05:12:42 AM »
I found another website for building solar panels.triffid
http://sites.google.com/site/earthforsolar/

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #472 on: April 11, 2010, 02:26:04 AM »
On ebay they have loose broken solar cells.Most of them not really broken,Just odd assorted sizes like 2x3,2x6,3x3,etc.About 2000 of these would build about 50 solar panels.Which would provide close to 3 kwatts per hour.Cost on ebay could be less than $1000.A guy would have to solder a bunch of solar cells together.So count however many hours he would have to spend to assemble
those 50 panels.But I figure he would have electricity for life if he chose to.The actual solar cells might cost around $1000.The other materials might cost more.But a lot of it could be salvaged.
Just thinking out loud here.Triffid

triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #473 on: April 13, 2010, 04:26:08 PM »
My first order of 20 plus solar cells are on its way to me so is a 20 watt soldering iron from ebay.I have a 30 watt already but it seems a 20 watt is the proper tool.Of course I have bids on other solar cells too.We will see what happens.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #474 on: April 13, 2010, 08:44:11 PM »
Mark my words ( and Check my posts to confirm ), I said late 2010 will be best time to buy land cash cheap in a non earthquake area like new englend. As interest rates rise, gold ( and i dont mean stock) is king,buy pure gold,  food, fire power is king.  And for ten grand you have nothn 2 loose.

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #475 on: April 13, 2010, 09:12:29 PM »
As interest rates rise, gold ( and i dont mean stock) is king,buy A,...
When the economic conditions get so bad that a depression occurs,  Gold will do no good.  My late uncle told me gold and cash had a whole lot less value in the Great Depression.
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...food, fire power is king.  And for ten grand you have nothn 2 loose.
Right.  Commodities are the best way to go.  Don't let anyone know you have them, though.  They'll come looking for you.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #476 on: April 15, 2010, 05:34:27 AM »
Big o, your wrong, gold had value, us dollar notes could no longer be changed for gold

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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #479 on: April 16, 2010, 05:01:52 AM »
I read an interesting article in which bars of soap and packs of smokes were sold to secure funds for a good evening of entertainment in post war japan.The two seamen involved had no gold to sell.But they had soap and smokes from the ships stores.These things were scarce and hard to come by in post war japan.So they sold them for a good amount of money.Smokes go stale after 6 months to a year but bars of soap last 2 or 3 years or longer?I bought my second set of solar cells tonight on ebay.So now I will have 45 plus cells to work with.triffid