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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #405 on: March 25, 2010, 02:12:27 AM »
this vote shows you only one thing, there was more pessimist voting.

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #406 on: March 25, 2010, 02:29:15 AM »
this vote shows you only one thing, there was more pessimist voting.
Can you be more descriptive?
I notice, on TV and the local streets as well, people in this country are becoming furious that the politicians let the economy get away from their control.

That's the short answer.  I can go into more detail, but OU Members can also look around themselves as well as I can.

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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #407 on: March 25, 2010, 02:42:14 AM »
Can you be more descriptive?
I notice, on TV and the local streets as well, people in this country are becoming furious that the politicians let the economy get away from their control.

That's the short answer.  I can go into more detail, but OU Members can also look around themselves as well as I can.

--Lee

then that is their own fault. avoiding a self blamer because you are to lazy to keep up with the times is self blatant. blame yourself for not keeping up with times on time.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #408 on: March 25, 2010, 03:01:02 AM »
then that is their own fault. ...
Okay, they can take responsibility for their own actions.  I'm not going to get involved with, or be the focus of, an angry mob when I don't have to.  Obviously! 
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...avoiding a self blamer because you are to lazy to keep up with the times is self blatant.
I don't follow this line of reasoning.  Can you put it another way?  In particular, if I'm presenting opinions here on any OU Forum, is that blatant to those who might disagree with me?
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...blame yourself for not keeping up with times on time.
I watch the cable local and national news daily.  I know it's slanted toward a political ideology, one way or another, but I like to look at what actually happens and not pay close attention to any one political opinion over another.  They're all the same to me.

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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #409 on: March 25, 2010, 03:20:10 AM »
Okay, they can take responsibility for their own actions.  I'm not going to get involved with, or be the focus of, an angry mob when I don't have to.  Obviously!  I don't follow this line of reasoning.  Can you put it another way?  In particular, if I'm presenting opinions here on any OU Forum, is that blatant to those who might disagree with me?I watch the cable local and national news daily.  I know it's slanted toward a political ideology, one way or another, but I like to look at what actually happens and not pay close attention to any one political opinion over another.  They're all the same to me.

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anything you cannot solve is your fault, no matter what. you can't avoid it no matter what, you can deny it but you will - always be at fault. laws of nature undiscovered! quoted by me.

the important thing is we survived and we did survive, without, any God.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #410 on: March 25, 2010, 03:38:45 AM »
anything you cannot solve is your fault, no matter what. ...
If I don't know the particulars to a problem, or have no experience with it, all I can do is deal with it when I realize it for what it is.  I don't know everything and am not responsible for other people's actions, even if a politician make a law that I disagree with.  Vote him/her out?  Doesn't work.

"Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the result to be different."                                                                            
                                                           --Glenn Beck, conservative cable political commentator.

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...you can't avoid it no matter what, you can deny it but you will - always be at fault.
An example of my point:
Some religionists may say I'm responsible so the Original Sin in the Garden of Eden.  Because Adam sinned, I'm also responsible.  Really, some would.  Because I'm a Jew, and I wasn't then and there, and I refuse to take the blame for Adam's and Eve's actions.

I'm not "at fault" for something I didn't do.  I recognize I have my problems, but no one will deal with them but me in my own time.  That is my responsibility, and I can accept that.

That's the extent of my belief system I've decided to relate to you.

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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #411 on: March 25, 2010, 03:46:08 AM »
If I don't know the particulars to a problem, or have no experience with it, all I can do is deal with it when I realize it for what it is.  I don't know everything and am not responsible for other people's actions, even if a politician make a law that I disagree with.  Vote him/her out?  Doesn't work.

"Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the result to be different."                                                                            
                                                           --Glenn Beck, conservative cable political commentator.
An example of my point:
Some religionists may say I'm responsible so the Original Sin in the Garden of Eden.  Because Adam sinned, I'm also responsible.  Really, some would.  Because I'm a Jew, and I wasn't then and there, I refuse to take the blame for Adam's and Eve's actions actions.

I'm not "at fault" for something I didn't do.  I recognize I have my problems, but no one will deal with them but me in my own time.  That is my responsibility, and I can accept that.

--Lee

you will never settle yourself until you agree, like I said, you can deny it all you want, everyone is guilty unless they can come up with an answer to the problem and deliver it. if you can not solve it then you are just as guilty as the one who committed it. laws of nature undiscovered! I have read the bible hundreds of times, if you even think it you are guilty of doing it. even as an Atheist I hold some value in ancient scripture absolute.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #412 on: March 25, 2010, 03:51:50 AM »
anything you cannot solve is your fault, no matter what. you can't avoid it no matter what, you can deny it but you will - always be at fault. laws of nature undiscovered! quoted by me.
I've perceived things I understand, but refuse to tell you:

"Anyone who tells the absolute truth to someone who doesn't deserve it, is partly responsible for the indiscretions the other person causes."

--Theosophist doctrine
(And I'm not a follower of their religion just accept this one quotation as being valid to me.)
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the important thing is we survived and we did survive, without, any God.
"You can follow your Path and I can follow mine.  The destination is the same."
--Theosophist doctrine

--Lee

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #413 on: March 25, 2010, 03:58:09 AM »
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You can follow your Path and I can follow mine.  The destination is the same."

How true! you are very wise. I don't say that lightly. besides, there is nothing in your head that has not been discovered in another mind. it holds true for even those you would call your enemy.
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #414 on: March 26, 2010, 05:29:10 AM »
     All economies are based on trust.  When physcological attacks that spawn paranoia isolation and distrust are perpetrated what else but an economic collapse will insue.  Nations stop putting money into farming and infrastructure and start buying security crap.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #415 on: March 26, 2010, 12:33:36 PM »
From what I have read it seems that lee and over are both right.  Government has let spending get out of control, people have elected government.  both right.  You can change it by voting in people that will change spending, or we can keep going down the same path we are on now.

I don't blame republicans or democrats for the problems we as a nation face right now.  the reason is because they both created it.  It will take both parties to fix this mess, i just don't think either is willing to help the other at this point in time.

By the way we are up to 37 failed banks so far this year.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #416 on: March 26, 2010, 12:57:35 PM »
Uncontrolled spending by government is nothing new.I was alive in the 1970's and saw first hand what happened when the government printed money to pay for the vietnam war.Prices rose on everything (homes,Rv's).1979 saw $850 an ounce gold and $50.00 an ounce silver(Hunt brothers buying the silver here).Now its J.P. Morgan shorting it in 2010.I found a link to a "grow dome".If we all could build our own greenhouse to grow food in.It could look something like this.http://halfpasthuman.com/Growdome/Growdome09.htm
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #417 on: March 26, 2010, 01:04:04 PM »
Plastic doesn't have to be clear to allow enough light to come through for plants to grow.Triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #418 on: March 26, 2010, 01:11:52 PM »
I disagree with the current level of violence against our elected officials.Vote them out of office if you want.I have nothing against that.But bricks through the windows and bullets through the door make you a criminal.Pure and simple.Today I heard someone fired a shot into an elected officials office somewhere.We are not fighting Nazis here.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #419 on: March 26, 2010, 01:20:34 PM »
The healthcare issue was personal for Obama as he saw his mother battle insurance companies to the (her) end from cancer.Some of us might have forgotten that or never knew it.My own mother died from cancer in 1994.So I can relate.Triffid