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Author Topic: I see an economic diasater coming...  (Read 1259519 times)

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #270 on: December 08, 2009, 12:32:28 PM »

" If you accept that you are a slave, you've made it so."

What is your point ?

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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #271 on: December 08, 2009, 04:11:07 PM »
Just out of curiosity did anyone think to ask the question as to why they are devaluing the dollar?

Here's a possible answer:

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/vronsky/2009/0403.html

The USA appears to need to print it's way out of the recession.
I'd rather like to return to the topic of this thread.

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« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 06:13:51 PM by the_big_m_in_ok »

Offline Azorus

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #272 on: December 08, 2009, 04:22:10 PM »
Just wait till bubbles come back.  That's when you know all hell has broken loss, or when a roll of TP is 50$.

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #273 on: December 08, 2009, 06:20:53 PM »
Just wait till bubbles come back.
They're back now.  Some economists recognize that with indicators rising as they are, that would define a bubble(s).  The next *pop* will be extreme, since it's the second in a row.
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  That's when you know all hell has broken loss, or when a roll of TP is 50$.
Social unrest is predicted by one or more think tanks on that one.  Think of what happened to the ancient Roman Empire in the 5th Century after it collapsed.

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Offline Azorus

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #274 on: December 08, 2009, 06:59:19 PM »
http://www.pravenue.com/newsletter.asp?article=2239

while i doubt garlic will be a problem in the us, think of this in terms of the housing problem that is just starting to bubble up again.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #275 on: December 08, 2009, 10:16:57 PM »

These two guys will get right down to the very core of how things have been set up, and how this impacts on the economy and essentially every aspect of your life.


" 1. You are legally a debtor and chattel (property) owned by a hidden creditor.
2. There is a hidden lien on everything transacted for by or with a Federal Reserve Note.
3. Your entire alleged wealth is/has been liened, you don’t own anything! You merely have possession by privilege. This privilege may be yanked at any time if you don’t obey the real owner.
4. The Federal Reserve Note is a foreign product owned by a foreign corporation, and not by you or the U.S. government
.5. The States and the United States courts are bankruptcy courts representing the interests and property of the foreign creditor.
6. Without knowing it, you have been compelled into international commercial law, where you have none of your unalienablerights. Hence, you have been insulated from your birthright, the common Law from which your rights are immutable
7. You are charged an income (excise) tax for transacting in the foreign commodity known as Federal Reserve Notes.
8. You have been divested of the rights to, value of, and profits from your labor, which has been stolen.
9. Lawful gold coin (pre 1933) money transactions are invisible to the states and national government(s).
10. The real cause of draconian governmental regulation and your loss of rights is the toxic currency.
11. The United States lost its sovereignty in 1933. It is in receivership to the hidden creditor. The bankrupt government is a puppet to the real master, as declared by Banker Rothschild on the cover.
12. The real cause of the current economic calamity is the toxic currency.
13. The hidden creditor (international bankers) owns everything, including you.
14. You have been living within an illusion, believing that you are free, but in reality you are owned! "

http://www.newpeopleorder.com/links.html


I hope this gives you a deeper perspective, it certainly gave me a clearer picture.

In all honesty, I will have to listen to them speaking a few more times before the whole I fully understand the ins and outs of it.

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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #276 on: December 08, 2009, 11:28:44 PM »
http://www.pravenue.com/newsletter.asp?article=2239
while i doubt garlic will be a problem in the us, think of this in terms of the housing problem that is just starting to bubble up again.
Speaking of bubbles, I read in an Internet article, the rate of borrowing for retail purchases fell for the 8th month in a row.  Analysts maintain that this, along with other indicators(e.g, continued high unemployment), bode poorly for the "recovery", whatever that is.   ;D   :P

RE-EDIT:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/06/u-s-consumer-credit-debt-falls-for-eighth-straight-month/

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Offline exxcomm0n

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #277 on: December 09, 2009, 02:51:25 AM »
K then.

On the whole slave/chattel/minion thing, it boils down to each humans ultimate power (if you're brave enough to exercise it).

Live free or die

(if anyone remembers it was on New Hampshires flag with a following line that read, "There are worse evils than death".)

This means to me that you'll never be a slave if you choose not to live as one. No one can make you a slave if you deny to be afraid of not seeing another day.

It's a tough gig, and I'm not sure if I will live up to my brave words should the day come where they need to become a real life choice, but it makes sense that a slave is more afraid of death than living as a slave.

A slave lives in fear, a man dies free.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #278 on: December 09, 2009, 04:30:16 AM »

Have to admit, I have been wrestling with that one for a time now.

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Offline raburgeson

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #279 on: December 09, 2009, 11:23:44 AM »
The big new bubble being held up now is the medical industry. It needs to pop. Even mandatory insurance can't sustain a bubble this size. Instead it will delay the pop. I took a guy in a few weeks ago and the hospital gave him a breathing treatment and a prescription, 4 hours, $2000. We have mandatory auto insurance in my state. There is no competition between these companies and no over sight on these gougers. The price is as ridiculous and if you have to drive you have to pay it. The same thing is going to happen with health insurance. The government says it will have a non profit insurance. The reality is this will be the go ahead for the medical industry to raise prices even higher and the insurance cost will continually rise. There will be no check and balance for the people and the bubble will be propped up far beyond imagination. This is a short explanation of part of the fake economy we suffer under. Our debt (most of it) is as fake as the FED. I hope to see everything to crash so bad they can't even think of the illegal, treasonous American Union. I'd like to see even Mexico in a position to tell DC to go to hell.

The Russians checkmated the gas grab in Afghanistan making the pipeline worthless. Why 30,000 more troops? Poppys?

Offline Azorus

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #280 on: December 09, 2009, 03:40:23 PM »
The 30000 troops is to end the war, trust me end the war weather or not it works.  Poppys are being salted, or turned to pomagraded trees, it is.  People are the deciding factor as to when the bubbles burst.  In saying that I mean that when people wake up to what is happening and have finally had enough is when change will occur.

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #281 on: December 09, 2009, 04:13:30 PM »
The 30000 troops is to end the war, trust me end the war weather or not it works.
Here's one I agree on fore sure.  If Obama sends more troops, even more Muslims extremists will volunteer to fight them.  Genghis Khan couldn't conquer the Afghans, and we won't beat the combined strength of hugely favorable numbers of fighters on their side.  There's too many of them.
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...Poppys are being salted, or turned to pomagraded trees, it is. 
It's pissing of the Afghans, too.  They want money to live on.  Pomegranates aren't enough.
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People are the deciding factor as to when the bubbles burst.  In saying that I mean that when people wake up to what is happening and have finally had enough is when change will occur.
Right, exactly.  It's all "smoke and mirrors" when it comes to money.  If the American public has no confidence in the system, then $trillions won't help.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #282 on: December 09, 2009, 04:19:28 PM »
the way things look to me is that Obama is for the American people.  He is, like all other Americans, put in a tough situation.  Look at how much older he looks today than when he first went into office because of all the stress that is put on him.  I don't think he wants anything but the best for America, but it can be a very hard thing to decide with so much "smoke" blown in your face.

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #283 on: December 09, 2009, 04:50:15 PM »
the way things look to me is that Obama is for the American people. ...
Okay, but he's also described as receiving a lot of threats from different people.  Maybe he's outnumbered by criminals?  People aren't all that happy if they threaten him.

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #284 on: December 09, 2009, 04:55:25 PM »

For the record - Obomba promised to end the "war" as soon as he got elected...he lied...its as simple as that.

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