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hartiberlin

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2009, 08:14:43 PM »
Well, the popularity of a youtube video does not count.

Maybe its title is not so excat, so not too many people find it ,
so its view numbers are low..

But there are still many open questions, that the moon
landing supporters can not answer and the recent official Netherland´s museum
fake of moon stone and the lost original moon tapes, etc...
make me go hmmmm...

I will wait, until they will present undoubtly high res pictures
or movies from
the Apollo landing areas, which will not be possible to be faked...

The question is, could they also fake these photos or videos in
the future and how could this be checked for the truth ?

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2009, 08:47:03 PM »
Maybe we should all email Dr. West at ESO
to finally take the pictures we are all waiting for ?

I quote from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

"The Daily Telegraph (London) published a story in 2002 saying that European astronomers at the Very Large Telescope would use it to view the remains of the Apollo lunar landers. According to the article, Dr Richard West said that his team would take "a high-resolution image of one of the Apollo landing sites". Marcus Allen, a Moon hoax proponent, pointed out in the story that no images of hardware on the Moon would convince him that manned landings had taken place.[49] As the VLT is capable of resolving equivalent to the distance between the headlights of a car as seen from the Moon,[50] it may be able to directly image some features of the Apollo landing site. Such photos, if and when they become available, would be the first non-NASA produced images of the site at that definition."

Well, the email address of Dr. West is:

rwest@eso.org
and his webpage is:
http://www.eso.org/~rwest/

Please send him a message to ask for the pictures...
I will do now too.
Many thanks.

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2009, 06:04:59 PM »
If the moon landing was real historical event?
I doubt it. Real events do not create "hoax" for so many years.

Enjoy the following video clips if you have time.
The speaker said, NASA deleted 40 rolls of pictures during the Apollo mission period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbpGpMe3qY


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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #78 on: December 19, 2009, 01:46:35 AM »
there was a documentary about a decade ago where the interviewer ask Hollywood productions if they could of faked the moon landing with all the video they had, Hollywood say it would of been impossible in 1969 to build a studio with the type of graphics needed, Hollywood did not have computer graphics that sophisticated or even none at all. at best they said they could of made a good B movie but that was about it.

there is no way NASA had better equipment then Hollywood to make a movie of that magnitude and sophistication.

Jerry :)

This is a juicy one: ...seeing as how I constantly hear on the history channel interviewees claiming things like "We had things 50 years ahead of that in the warehouse"...

God knows what they have now..  things 200 years ahead of us? ..are they seing into the future?  Bleh.

Authenticity:  Hasn't anyone wondered why it is that these devices we send out aren't actively controlled? ..again, why is it that the thing's imaging has to be automated?

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2010, 03:08:07 PM »
Sorry if already mentioned... If you suspect a photo has been modified, used "exif" and it will tell you.. Exif says all photos have been modified by Photoshop (understandable since arrows etc have been added) BUT.  . Would be great if the original thumbnails where still there :-) ,but it is easy to remove them ,and obviously they have been removed/overwritten from these photos, as the Embedded thumbnail images are the same as the modified ones..photoshop does not overwrite the Embedded thumbnail image ,when you modify an image with it. This is how scambaiters catch out Nigerian Scammers when they send us Photos, we look at the Embedded thumbnail image to see what the photo looked like before it was changed. (the embedded thumbnail image is generated by the camera that took the photo originally along with a lot of the other data you see when you use exif such as f stops etc)
Below is part of the report from the exif plugin for firefox

Exif IFD0

    * Picture Orientation = normal (1)
    * X-Resolution = 72/1 ===> 72
    * Y-Resolution = 72/1 ===> 72
    * X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
    * Software / Firmware Version = Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
    * Last Modified Date/Time = 2009:07:17 14:11:59

All good sceptics should have an exif viewer installed in their browser:-)
http://www.romancescambaiter.com/exifinfo.htm for links to exif viewers

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2010, 03:49:10 PM »
I really don't see any physical limitations of why we couldn't go to the moon, none.

it is very costly though, some people might argue that it is money wasted and should be used for other purposes, these are the people that might kill the space program.

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2010, 06:18:29 PM »
They have never released a real photo from space. I cracked their pictures (That's the right word for them) a year ago. Computer generated and filled with subliminals they have a main normal theme like lifeforms found on the rail road tracks with pieces of track stamped all over the background. Then you can pick out layers of sublimes afterwards. I just released another package of them and I'll bet they are taken off the net already. They don't host pictures here and I don't blame them. That takes a lot of band width. I put them on sites like rapidshare that is supposedly run by countries unfriendly to the U.S. and it's amazing how they get removed. You would think Iran would protect and distribute them wouldn't you. I literally gave the scientists hell for leaving scientific method and not even knowing what Mars looked like. I pointed out to these arm chair scientific religious fanatics that they didn't even know what the planet Mars looked like and the pictures of Mars were of a shemale stretching her rear checks wrapped around a sphere.

Oh yes, the NASA guys really go for the shemales. The meteor crashing into Mars picture, more of the same. Just like the electrical storms and dust devils. All of this scientific information is a computer generated fabrication. What are they hiding up there? A lot! They have been subverting science since Clementine at the least. With these chemtrails they spray you can't even take a good picture of the moon. You get a white round splotch if you do. The chemtrails defuse the light. A telescope is a light gathering device. Put those two facts together and it explains why you only get a featureless splotch. I'll look up some examples for you and post them later. All the old stuff is off the computer and new stuff is done like pictures from the hubble calenders and things. I just finished going over the new released pictures of the volcano in Iceland. They could have used real pictures, what Iceland is a matter of national security or is it whatever agenda to pass the masses more sublime smut that caused them to release what they did? See they though no one would come up with a way to show what they did even if someone caught on to it. I found an old picture called giant plants that was controversial about Mars life a while back. It has about 10 layers of crap on it, it will take me a bit to get back with it.

Here, never saw these before, hot off the press. Hope I didn't highlight to many of the images and make it confusing. Supposed to be the footpad of Apollo. Enjoy! Download them and zoom right in and look at them, billions or is it trillions for computer generated crap pictures.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 07:59:59 PM by raburgeson »

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2010, 08:50:02 PM »
I really don't see any physical limitations of why we couldn't go to the moon, none.

No human has EVER left the safety of low Earth Orbit (see Van Alan Belt).

Why Haven't We Gone Back (c) Jarrah White

A critical analysis of the past and current Moon Programs of the United States and Russia, and why neither country has tried to go back to the Moon in Forty Years!

MoonFaker: Why Not Go Back? PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Ka14URW5w

MoonFaker: Why Not Go Back? PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Joz6vnpsg

MoonFaker: Why Not Go Back? PART 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_X6W5WH_Dk&annotation_id=annotation_882104&feature=iv
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Busted - Mythbusters Debunked addendum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M
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MoonFaker: Silent Space PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpe5Hkjxdjk

MoonFaker: Silent Space PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQmcya4e_c&feature=related

Regardless of whether you believe we went to the moon or not, the fact remains that three men died in what was to be the first manned Apollo mission. As part of the recent 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, we explore the the dark and disturbing truth regarding the Apollo 1 mission. Be prepared to dig deep into the conflicting statements, known safety violations, and backpedaling that went into the preparations and aftermath of Apollo 1.

It is clear that NASA and North American Aviation planned the Apollo 1 fire and let Grissom and his crew die, and have effectively covered up the truth of what happened that day. If it wasn't murder, it was severe negligence in the extreme.

IN LONG LOVING MEMORY OF

   Virgil Ivan "Gus" Grissom
   Edward Higgens White, Jr.
   Roger Bruce Chaffee

MoonFaker: Apollo 1: PART 1 of 11
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJarrahWhite#p/search/3/7D3o1htlz9c

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2010, 05:44:16 PM »
Science and technology development today actually. people have gradually discovered the universe to learn the rules of life. Space exploration as the more mysterious, exciting. Previously kept wondering if the earth was square, life is born from God. It's a matter of belief, but scientists do not believe so, gradually discovering new rules. Soon, there will be people to another planet to live.

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2010, 04:44:01 AM »
No,No listen they have been far into space. We have been left out in the cold. UFOs are seen around the world, way to many to come from anywhere but Earth. I'd say millions of sighting are proof enough. Then we go to the other topic, a few fake pictures and a few shaky accounts of aliens. There is no proof of Aliens. So you come to the only conclusion you can, we did it all. The tax payer paid for the research and got lied to. Want some reasons for this? They can go mining and have no oversight. They can start a little side kingdom. They can lord it over on the rest of the world that there science is better and look upon us as subhuman. Check those sublimes in the picture above. They think they are smarter than you because they know what's on it and they stick it in your face and you don't see it. It's a real mental trip for them. Face it, what makes sense, there are advanced races visiting our planet or the unidentified craft come from here. Three people in the U.S. have the rights to over 90% of the rights to the resources of the solar system. No one contests this because no one thinks we can get up there and get those resources. They are free to then plunder and destroy strip mining and leave the human race a mess to clean up when we wish to terraform. Check out the CIA and FBI on the number of missing persons per year and see where they could get a work force for this.

1947, we had Operation Paper Clip well under way. We had some of the Brotherhood of the Bell here. 1947 we had the Roswell incident. We had Operation Highjump. 2 saucers crashed in New Mexico. Since 1947 several countries have been camped out in a circle in Antarctica. No matter what if you are found on the continent you are unceremoniously thrown off. It's been that way for decades. The most likely thing they are camped around is a spaceport. All the other stuff they have been telling you is just one lie heaped on top of another. That's why they say the lie is different on every level. Not one picture of a ice burg or Antarctica is real either, just more subliminal crap. They have messed with maps so much you don't remember what the Earth looks like, how big do you think Greenland is? Well I'm after them to get them to release this physics and technology they are hiding.

It will be a while before I can come back and read the post again. They are having spring cleanup in Erie, you can check this out on Erie net. The best off homes through out nice stuff many homes don't have. I got a small 4 cyl nothing truck and help redistribute some of the stuff. When Oboma said Pennsylvania is an economically suppressed area the little thing he let out was he was aware of the fact because it is so by design.

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2010, 09:49:09 PM »
No,No listen they have been far into space. We have been left out in the cold. UFOs are seen around the world, way to many to come from anywhere but Earth. I'd say millions of sighting are proof enough. Then we go to the other topic, a few fake pictures and a few shaky accounts of aliens. There is no proof of Aliens. a is an economically suppressed area the little thing he let out was he was aware of the fact because it is so by design.

raburgeson,

All your previous posts read exactly the same: the government is out to get you/us; they really 'did it' we got proof, their just hiding the proof from you; your tax dollars pay for technology they won't show you, and have you seen any UFO's lately.

You sound like a government dis-informer.

Schpankme

"No human has ever left the safety of low earth orbit."
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 10:25:37 PM by Schpankme »

raburgeson

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2010, 01:41:28 AM »
I haven't seen anything except a chemtrail fog around here. You can't even see planes that land at the airport. Tell me what's up with that?

I don't want to see the taxpayer saddled with payments to a place that produces lies. A 1970 U2 carried a 4 gigabyte camera. Tell me they sent less on any of these probes they have sent into space. What do we get? Mars pictures that have 30 or 40 shots sewed together that are 2 megs? Oh Hubble can't take a picture of the moon or mars, they are too close. What a lie. And equal lie is the Hubble Earth pictures on the net and that's closer to Hubble. I'm not disinforming I'm exposing and they will not lie out of it. They have been lying over 5 decades and I'm calling a halt to it.

Go to google and search Hubble Earth images, go get them quick before they disappear now that I mention they exist. How do they land a probe in an atmosphere. They use parachutes right, specially in the old days. I'll tell you what they told us about Venus. They told us Venus has a molten surface and extreme atmospheric temperatures. So extreme that a parachute would not survive and they would never have probed Venus at all. Then go look up the reflectivity of the atmosphere of Venus. It wouldn't be hot there. Then look at the chemtrails again. They have many uses, they form a capacitive affect in the atmosphere. Do you have any education about wave guides? Right now they are shaking over what I had to say about their chemtrails. Here's what I am going to tell you about them today, the people involved with the atmospheric spraying are involved with treason. When I reported the sky was a bright white frost that was as white as the snow for three weeks we got our first 3 days of sunshine this year. The period from the 27 of December till the time of my posting on chemtrail central we spent weeks not even being able to tell where the sun was. They are getting right back to the same crap right now. The only machines you can see around here are the 2 ambulance choppers that fly below the blanket of chemicals we are covered with. In the mean time we have a bunch of scientists that never work with their own data. Not one of them is working with a picture of the moon they took. That's not a theory that's a fact. And here is another fact, a group of scientists were set down to a picture that had pieces of petrified wood in them and not one of these could identify the wood even after they were asked about wood. To get the research and grant money these guys are willing to play any game the government wants to play. I've had it with those type of people and it's time we back them into the corner and get the truth out of them.

Me scared of them? No way, cockroaches crawl for a dark crack to hide in soon as you turn on the light.

Just listen to them, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, Mars has a CO2 rich atmosphere. Mars is cold and has only got ice and no running water. We are given some mixed signals here, why doesn't information released from the government ever add up?

Check this out

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/92683-Moon-rock-in-Dutch-museum-is-just-petrified-wood

This comes a few years after what I was talking about above.
They were caught lying about global warming. A world wide lie was exposed. That's not a theory. That is a prime example of falsified scientific data and total abandonment of scientific method.
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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »
Alright, I have been here a long time, let's do a lucrative small project. I assure you this time will be very productive. First pick up this image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_%28region_of_Mars%29

Copy and paste this into your address bar. Go get it quick before it's replaced or deleted. It's the original face on Mars picture. You know the one I'm talking about. The picture that has caused worthless controversy for four decades and held back science. It is a gray scale gif file. That is not suitable for analysis. I will give you a copy here in case anything happens to the original. Oh, they already changed it. Alright let's do this one together but, let me show you the original and this copy has to be easy to find at other places. Let me bore you with the old one for a few minutes. I changed it this way. I opened the gif with paintshop pro and increased the color depth to 16 million colors, then saved it as a JPEG. The I increased image size to 600 in photoshop. So I went from this to this.

I will make a new post to continue for the increased size and it's analysis. You can right click these and recreate my work as we go along.

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2010, 05:37:44 PM »
OK, upsized we get this, Photoshop reproduces images faithfully. Changed from a gray scale we can spray light films of color on it. Just highlight it so you can see the original lines beneath. It comes out like this. Download these and zoom in so you can see the details.

A quicky on their abstract art. There are small figures that fit together to make larger figures. Look these over. They clearly show there is no room left for a pixel from space. There are layers of art on one layer of sublimes. I'll make a new post for further analysis of the (face).

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Re: New Moon photos , do they really show the Apollo landing gear ?
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2010, 05:47:44 PM »
Here are some more images associated with the face. You don't believe they would do this to you? When I first found this stuff I didn't either. That's what made it better hidden. Let's find out who said the thing about hid in plain site, who said that. You will notice the small red highlighted figure in the one picture and the yellow figure in the dark area. If you ferret out the image just one size larger you will notice it becomes and arm that's cl;uching the neck, the head for this is just above the yellow figure. You should be able to work that out just looking at it right here at the post.

Once you get familiar with their art you can do this all day long to images from NASA, JPL, ESA, Japan and anywhere else space pictures come from. It get's boring fast. I didn't bother to do it but, if anyone would like to change the gray area to all the same gray and play connect the black dots that may produce something interesting too.